Demonstrations in Poland in defence of democracy.

i dont understand,who are those people defending Walesa from?i see they attack PIS for denouncing Walesa.do thay believe that Kaczynski forged those documents?or Kaczynski forced Kiszczaks wife to show them?

yesterday i read interview with krzywonos,it is shocking what those PO people are believing in...that Kaczynski forced Kiszczaks wife,threatened her and promised her money,and ordered IPN boss to blackmail Walesa.Putin is behind this ect....delusions and insanity...worse than sect

those people from KOD need head checking.

@gregy741
truth was spoken!

Wałęsa wrote a letter to the 80,000 strong crowd today. It's worth quoting this vital fragment :

he wrote even more letters to SB

Sure you didn't, Bolo :)))

In many people's worst dreams no-one expected the regime's chief oppressors to have fatter old-age pensions than the victims they oppressed. Nor that the red-pinko roundtable mafia known as the "salon" would be calling the shots for 26 years and create a III RP working only in favour of their privileged caste to the detriment of the Polish nation as a whole.

That seems remarkably like exactly what PiS has done and is doing. Top jobs in Poland go to those that are connected to the PiS leadership with competitions, managers and directors are hired based on Party credentials and not abilities and all state resources are used to further the work of the Party against the opposition.

Quite shameful, really. It certainly explains why 80,000 were out on the streets of Warsaw yesterday.

15k according to police officials.

Who just so happen to be under the control of PiS and therefore will say what they're told to say. The same thing happened before when they tried to claim a ridiculously low number that wasn't backed up by the aerial footage.

Either way, the fact that the police have to openly lie says a lot about how discredited this government is already.

Merged: Will the traitors from KOD be able to overthrow the new Polish government/ ?

The threat is unfortunately very real and patriotic Polonia and Poles in all countries of Western Europe and USA should do all they can not to let this happen.

But the main burden of fighting will rest mainly on native Poles living in Poland.

It's a well-known fact that KOD management is being fully funded by Western banks and companies.

What should and can be done in and outside Poland to prevent them from toppling the new patriotic government/ ? | thoughts, ideas, opinions and suggestions welcome

Never!

The dogs financed by Angela Merkel and Francois Hollande will NEVER overthrow the government democratically elected by the polish people!

Poland is not Yemen or Honduras for them to put whatever government they want!!!!

A well known completely made up piece of nonsense, that is :)


All you have to do is obey the law. Not difficult, is it?

It's time we finally stamp those being financed from abroad.

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Including from bank accounts in Luxembourg held by PiS senators?

Either way, KOD get all their financing from people living in Poland.

The thing is where those "people living in Poland" get it from in the 1st place.

Their own pockets.

I know it's difficult for you to understand, given that PiS received considerable loans from the SKOK network that was controlled by one of their senators, but still.

80,000 people and PIS(police) say 15,000 lol

Quite possible. Soros has got his paid agents in the Batory Foundation, KOD and other NGOs he controls.

That old Soros conspiracy ;) It's such a tired old conspiracy theory that no-one outside of PiS supporters believe such a thing, and they only believe it because they're used to being told how to eat, sleep and think by a ruling party.

But not for 25 years! It has become plainly clear that the RT was Kiszczak's triumph -- he organised, masterminded and stage-directed it with the aid of the Michniks, Geremeks, Mazowieckis and other KOR-ites, with Wałęsa humbled by all the professsorial titles going along. The RT conspiracy gave the criminal PZPR impunity and instead punished the Polish nation as a whole. Only its Salon wing in the pay of foreign itnerest groups has prospered. Seeing the writing on the wall, the KOD types have panicked and think their noisy last-resort rumpus can save their undeserved perks and advantages. The only advice for those poor misguided fools is: DON'T HOLD YOUR BREATH!

So in other words, the collapse of communism was a horrible tragedy and yet another case of Poland being victimized by traitors.... what a horrible country this Poland must be. No national heroes, just endless betrayal and defeat....

How can such a place ever grow a national brand?

Thing is, national heroes mean genuine freedom. PiS have no interest in freedom - their sole reason for existing is TKM, which means that they need to oppose freedom at all costs. How better to destroy freedom than to destroy the symbol of freedom?

We're already seeing how Macierewicz has invented a huge conspiracy in the defence ministry that somehow wasn't exposed by anyone (not even the PiS-controlled media) before now - and which will be used to punish innocent people. Putin would be so proud of his little protege Kaczyński.

This evil Kaczyński, how could his party win general elections... It cannot be, we must make a coup to defend the democracy
...

Pathetic clowns, I would be more concerned about other factors. A one thing is certain though, even if (unlike to happen) they'll overthrow PiS government there is not return to what it was, they'll get what coming sooner or later people will stick it to them - hard!

geezzz..did u hear walesas wife speech?shocking stuff...what a pathetic lowlife..i wonder what are those ppl from KOD are to stand there and listening all this madness..some halfwit idiots?

beside,,,Have Kaczynski said anything regarding all this story with Bolek?i cant recall if he said anything publicly
best stuff,she called for removing PIS forcefully...on pro democratic march...lol

The RT mafia aka KOD salon have no interest whatsoever in freedom or demcoracy only in their own power and privilege which they have enjoyed undeservedly for a quarter of a century. Wałęsa was the bitter enemy of the usurping KOR-ites who wanted their crony Mazowiecki to be president. Wałęsa had served his purpose and could nw return to Gdańsk like a nice little boy. But Wałęsa faced up to the KOR-ites, won the election (thanks mainly to the Tymiński debacle) and, were it not for his 1992 folly, would have remained their bittter enemy. What could a two-fisted, ideolgically conservative, Catholic trade unionist have in common with a bunch of agnsotic KOR eggheads? But when the threat of his dossier being exposed emerged, he suddenly had a common cause with the ex-PZPR/SB/TW types leftist intellectuals -- to protect his bottom. Governments have come and gone but that same salon has effectively run the show ever since.


The horrible tragedy was that communism did not collapse and political criminals were not held to account. Communism cleverly reinvented itself via the Kiszczak-engineered RT conspiracy. The regime's ruse enjoyed the support of soft-on-communism leftists (KOR & Co.) and opportunistic Solidarity fellow travellers (Bujak, Fraysyniuk, Celiński et al) which guaranteed the regime's people impunity and the collaborators a share of the spoils. The true Solidarity patriots -- Gwiazda, Walenytnowicz, Morawiecki, Waszkowski, Jaworski et al -- were sidelined, reviled or ignored despite their contribution to the "S" revolution.

Again. There were two options

Soft landing - What happened. Downsides are that some guilty are unpunished and some of the virtuous will not be rewarded. Upside is there's no bloodshed.

Hard landing - Violent uprising with militias vs militias. Upside is that more of the guilty will be punished and the downside is that a lot of innocent people get killed, the country hemmorages people (especially young educated) and the country plunges into depression and tries to claw itself out.

Just how could your unicorn fairy fantasy of non-violent decommunization with the cooperation of the communists have happened?

You're obsessed with mapping out a perfect transition that should have happened rather than trying to make the best of the transition that did.

It's immature and infantile like much of the PiS electorate who are fooled by promises of goodies from the Big Daddy government....

Demonstrations in Poland in defence of democracy.
them people from KOD are like Don Quixote..they fight with their own obsessions and delusions,not reality.

To me KOD is an evidence of how weak and easily manipulated human beings can be, these days with the wide access to common knowledge. I'ts almost unbelievable.

The funniest thing is watching PiS supporters accuse KOD of being what PiS actually is. It's an old communist trick.