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Demonstrations in Poland in defence of democracy.


OP delphiandomine  86 | 17823  
22 Jan 2016 /  #1261
As two marches can't go at the same time, democracy had to fend for itself.

Actually, what they did achieved the opposite effect. Now we'll have a demonstration under the iconic monument at Plac Mickiewicza which commemorates the fight for democracy in June 1956. Works for me.
NocyMrok  
22 Jan 2016 /  #1262
Works for me.

I'll be watching it in TV if they'll even show anything. KOD fanatics are so hilarious. They're actually better than Polish stand up scene. I love to have a laugh from time to time. :)
Polonius3  980 | 12275  
22 Jan 2016 /  #1263
iconic monument

Interesting paradox, KOD Poland-bashing traitors, who have seriously damaged Poland's interantional reptuation equating themselves with the 1956 workers' upsurge.
OP delphiandomine  86 | 17823  
22 Jan 2016 /  #1264
I'll be watching it in TV if they'll even show anything.

Interesting that a PiS supporter openly admits that TVP will show nothing about the huge nationwide protests.

Interesting paradox, KOD Poland-bashing traitors, who have seriously damaged Poland's interantional reptuation equating themselves with the 1956 workers' upsurge.

More of the false nationalism, Polonius?

I find it to be quite iconic, really, given how our democracy is threatened by a government that regards the Constitution as a piece of trash.
NocyMrok  
22 Jan 2016 /  #1265
nothing about the huge nationwide protests

Nah. I just know small few k protests are so insignificant that it won't get much of attention of free media. Of course media in hands of Eurocratic will blow it to the size of some global movement. You can expect a lot of info on Germany-owned Onet for example.

Again. Starting to think you weren't taught reading because I have already stated many times that I am not a PiS supporter. I'm anti-eurocratic regime that under the smoke curtain of freedom and liberty messes around with countries that they don't belong to just in the name of their profits and other interests.

I believe there should be a new term created to describe so called "Liberals". Those people have nothing in common with liberty, freedom and democracy. They try to ruin free and sovereign countries and make them work in their favour. Any ideas on how we really should call them? Profitists? Or maybe just Technocrats? Definitely nothing with liberty in the name.
Roger5  1 | 1432  
22 Jan 2016 /  #1266
When KORWiN got wind of it they registered a march against irresponsible immigration policy and for solidarity with the victims of Cologne

And we all know how much JKM respects and values women, right?
mafketis  38 | 11106  
22 Jan 2016 /  #1267
When KORWiN got wind of it they registered a march against irresponsible immigration policy and for solidarity with the victims of Cologne.

What an αss clown that guy is. He's on record as saying women shouldn't have the right to vote and now he's all Pan Solidarność with women.

Haven't his fifteen (or five) minutes run out yet?
Ironside  50 | 12472  
22 Jan 2016 /  #1268
I believe there should be a new term created to describe so called "Liberals

What you have in mind is progressivism an offspring of the neo-Marxist ideology.
Liberals is just an old and wilted ideology that is interpreted differently in different countries in fact, nowadays liberalism is just a forerunner of the new totalitarian ideology we have to deal with in our times - progressivism.
InPolska  9 | 1796  
22 Jan 2016 /  #1269
"Geez"! Korwin to show solidarity to German victims of sexual agressions!! BS! I hope German women will tell him to get lost. He and his kinds are as dangerous as islamists are with whom they share the same ideas of an "ideal" society: women pregnant every year and staying at home to cook and clean, only outing is to go to ... church, homosexuals or whoever has the misfortune to have something different killed or at best discriminated against. No, Korwin, German and other women don't want you and your sad kind!
OP delphiandomine  86 | 17823  
22 Jan 2016 /  #1270
Nah. I just know small few k protests are so insignificant that it won't get much of attention of free media.

Which free media? I've already explained several times how Gazeta Polska, TV Republika, TVP et al are all under the direct control of PiS. The genuinely free media in Poland will certainly report such events, because simultaneous demonstrations in over 40 cities is newsworthy.
Polonius3  980 | 12275  
22 Jan 2016 /  #1271
genuinely free media

I trust you dont' mean the opinionated and super-biased K. Gazette and Nonsense Television (TVN)?!The're only mouthpieces for the Petru-led KOD trough defenders!
Harry  
22 Jan 2016 /  #1272
simultaneous demonstrations in over 40 cities is newsworthy.

Yep, but so was Poland getting its credit rating cut and the resulting plunge in the zloty, and TVPiS only gave that a single seven-second sentence.
Ironside  50 | 12472  
22 Jan 2016 /  #1273
I've already explained several times how Gazeta Polska, TV Republika, TVP et al are all under the direct control of PiS

Nope, you made your pathetic allegations. Funny though that you are don't hesitate to post a bold faced lie to advice your propaganda. Sad that we have to suffer that instead of honest personal opinions.
jon357  73 | 23224  
22 Jan 2016 /  #1274
The genuinely free media in Poland will certainly report such events, because simultaneous demonstrations in over 40 cities is newsworthy.

Quite. One thing everyone knows about PiS from their disastrous part-term of office a few years ago is that media manipulation is a priority for them and that they despise any alternative point of view.
Kennyboy  1 | 42  
22 Jan 2016 /  #1275
Not being an expert of Polish politics, a quick question.

The speed at which the recent changes have been made by PiS, Law, Media control, civil service changes, etc....what things from their election manifesto have they changed, implemented, altered as quickly, if anything.

Sorry, 2nd question, were the things that they have changed part of their manifesto or were these changes unknown to the voters?
OP delphiandomine  86 | 17823  
22 Jan 2016 /  #1276
what things from their election manifesto have they changed, implemented, altered as quickly, if anything.

Essentially, there was no mention whatsoever of their intention to block the Constitutional Tribunal or to change the law about the civil service.

Funny though that you are don't hesitate to post a bold faced lie to advice your propaganda.

Are you denying that Gazeta Polska, niezalezna.pl and TV Republika are controlled by PiS? Even PiS themselves are hardly bothering to conceal that, given that Srebna is renting property next door to Jarosław!

Yep, but so was Poland getting its credit rating cut and the resulting plunge in the zloty, and TVPiS only gave that a single seven-second sentence.

Indeed, it's not really newsworthy. There's already a tonne of evidence online about how TVP has become completely biased - it's quite ridiculous really.
johnny reb  48 | 7973  
22 Jan 2016 /  #1277
Are there any native Polish people on this forum that have posted in support of this propaganda thread. ?
The only people that I have seen posting in support of Demonstrations in Poland in defence of democracy are ex pats from other countries.
Maybe if the elected party is so upsetting to these ex pats they should go back to their home countries where they weren't happy either.
OP delphiandomine  86 | 17823  
22 Jan 2016 /  #1278
Are there any native Polish people on this forum that have posted in support of this propaganda thread. ?

A better question might be to ask if there are any native Poles living in Poland that posted on here. So far, nope.

Maybe if the elected party is so upsetting to these ex pats they should go back to their home countries where they weren't happy either.

Nope. We choose to stay and fight for our country.
Grzegorz_  51 | 6138  
22 Jan 2016 /  #1279
were the things that they have changed part of their manifesto or were these changes unknown to the voters?

99% of their voters (at least) don't complain, those that do complain are the political activists of the previous government and their supporters, pretty much people that would complain unless the new gov commit mass suicide.
NocyMrok  
22 Jan 2016 /  #1280
We choose to stay and fight for our country.

It's not your country. You aren't a Pole. You aren't even a citizen of Poland. If you falsely consider Poland "your country" then you treat your home one as it's not yours and that makes you basically homeless.
dolnoslask  
22 Jan 2016 /  #1281
NocyMrok Dont worry once delph gets his citizenship he will start wearing the latest Chinese designer sports gear, he will be driving round naked while running one of our concentration camps, but hey the upside is he will be demonstrating against our government as a legitimate Polish citizen, might make prime minister one day.
Polonius3  980 | 12275  
22 Jan 2016 /  #1282
PiS from their disastrous

Disastrous, totalitarian, fascistic, authoritarian, Kaczyński-steered are some of the descriptives applied to PiS used by the KOD camp and your ilk, but they must be doing something right and Petru doing soemthing wrong, as the latest survey shows: PiS 38 (so they haven't lost any support compared to the 25 Oct. election), PO 16, Petru 15 (too much of him on TV) and Kukiz 11.

We all know you'll say polls are not especially reliable. But If PO had got 38% you'd change your tune and say something like: Platforma has rebounded, people have finally seen through PiS' cheap propaganda, etc., etc. ad nauseam.

wyborcza.pl/1,75478,19517804,pis-38-proc-po-15-proc-nowoczesna-na-trzecim-miejscu-sondaz.html#ixzz3y0a5sCcU
johnny reb  48 | 7973  
23 Jan 2016 /  #1283
A better question might be to ask if there are any native Poles living in Poland that posted on here.

I'll take that bet.......how about a $100 U.S.D. to be given to Roger to donate to build water systems ?

Nope. We choose to stay and fight for our country.

Somehow I just can't see you joining Poland's military to serve to fulfill your military service to Poland or NATO countries.
What ya say Corporal Hot Air, $100 ?
OP delphiandomine  86 | 17823  
23 Jan 2016 /  #1284
Somehow I just can't see you joining Poland's military to serve to fulfill your military service to Poland or NATO countries.

We don't have compulsory military service here.

What ya say Corporal Hot Air, $100 ?

For what? Not sure I get what you want to bet here...
NocyMrok  
23 Jan 2016 /  #1285
For what? Not sure I get what you want to bet here.

You seemed to not believe there are Poles living in Poland that commented here. Johnny wants to bet with ya. Chickening out?
NocyMrok  
23 Jan 2016 /  #1287
Well you two decide. It is your bet.
johnny reb  48 | 7973  
23 Jan 2016 /  #1288
We choose to stay and fight for our country.

You have no idea what it is to fight and sacrifice for a country.

We don't have compulsory military service here.

You can thank the American soldiers for that. (NATO)

Not sure I get what you want to bet here...

Ten year old kids might believe that.

And how can it be proven?

How can 'what' be proven if you are not sure what I want to bet ? lol
Wouldn't it be a lot easier to man up and just say that you misspoke again instead of trying to lie your way out of it ?
pweeg  
23 Jan 2016 /  #1289
You can thank the American soldiers for that. (NATO)

How exactly? No NATO soldier has ever fought to defend Poland. The Russian Empire collapsed through economic war not NATO
Polonius3  980 | 12275  
23 Jan 2016 /  #1290
block the Constitutional Tribunal

PO sneakily and illicitly appointed TK judges: 1) to ensure their continued monopoly (PO had hand-picked 14 of the 15 TK members with only 1 for the opposition); and/or 2) PO deseprately needed a pretext to stir up trouble and destabilise the winning camp.

THE EU INTRUSION AND S&P DOWNGRADE WERE SOLELY THE RESULT OF WEEKS AND WEEKS OF KOD'S STREET COMMOTION BACKED BY VIRULENT ANTI-GOVERNMENT MEDIA REPORTS AND BEHIND-THE-SCENES LOBBYING AND SCHETYNA/PETRU SNITCHERY. Neither instituion had reacted the same way to various contrversies in other countries.

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