Demonstrations in Poland in defence of democracy.

I strongly doubt that - especially since none of the major parties in Poland favour large-scale immigration. If it does come, however, it will start during PiS's brief spell in office.

It may be something that makes you feel insecure in Birmingham, however it isn't anything people discuss much here in Poland.

Almost funny to see PiS supporters here (living abroad, as it happens) getting so upset about the Polish pro-democracy movement.

No jon. Most upset some foreign guests are trying to shape my country to suit their needs. Hopefully it never gonna happen.

That doesn't make much sense at all. Especially since there are very few "foreign guests" in Poland and among those foreigners (either visitors or permanent residents) or citizens who naturalised, very few attend the Polish pro-democracy rallies. Most of the attenders are native Poles, ones who stayed here through good times and bad and didn't abandon our country as soon as they could when time were hard

PO agreed to 7000 of the immigrants and parties like: Zjednoczona Lewica and Razem would open the boarders as wide as Sweden did.


For your information I can tell you that I live in Solihull which is very "affluent" and white area so I don't get insecure feelings what so ever.


We all know that your friend's circles are quite limited to those as we say in Polish "ą ę" or as you like to say "affluent" ones. And so is your awareness about it.


It's funny haw you see upset people when no one else does.

Brainwashed by foreign guests and capitalists

Excellent. That will help correct the low birth rate and the problem of people abandoning Poland never to return. In any case, it isn't one of the many issues that the thousands of people who attend Polish pro-democracy rallies are expressing concerns about.


Every post you make about immigration and people of colour/Muslims (and that's quite a lot of your posts) suggests the opposite is true.


How on earth would you know anything about my "friend's circles" ?

That's just your twisted interpretation of my posts, which no serious person on this forum pays attention to.


Well, I have read quite a few posts of yours or maybe few thousand of them so I guess I found out something about you.


Not sure about the birth rate but surely the low rape rate will be corrected, just like it happened in Sweden and is happening in Germany at the very moment, at least Polish women will have some fun too.

This is not UK where people are used to their national values fading and the only value being money. We don't want muslims here even if they would contribute (we know that is impossible).

Easy to see how quickly a discussion on the Polish pro-democracy movement degenerates when some of the usual suspects (none of whom have lived in Poland for years) start to spam about their usual topic; namely their hatred and fear of Muslims.

Which is nothing whatsoever to do do with the Polish pro-democracy rallies.

Those exiles really do have nothing to say.

Which means that jon has run out with the arguments that would make any sense.

Getting back to the topic. There is not much more to say, the demonstrations will not make any change, the government will do what they should do regardless of the demonstrations.

I'm in my home town of Zielona Góra. Where are you and who's an exile?

More than voted for Platfuses in 2011.

Within the context of history 12 years is but a speck, but in the political world that means at least three-term PiS rule. Hopefully more! That should be enough time to renovate the country, spread the frutis fo transformation and neutrlaise the wreckers or keep them in check.

It increasingly looks like they'll be out of office before their term ends. Just like last time.

They have majority in the Parliament and lead in the polls. You want to tell us "EU forces" are going to remove them ?

It's called życzeniowe myślenie (rush to Google for translation!)

Why would I need to "rush to google".

And yes, it's unlikely they'll last a full term. However much you hate that fact.

It increasingly looks like the giant asteroid is going to hit the earth this year.


He uses his boyfriend for that.

While Wulkan sits thinking about PF members, I'll just update the thread with the latest list of demonstrations.

All demonstrations are on Saturday 23.01

1. BIA£YSTOK - 12:00, Rynek Kościuszki, "Białystok za Demokracją bez Inwigilacji"
2. BIELSKO-BIA£A - 12:00, Plac Chrobrego
3. BRZESZCZE
4. BYDGOSZCZ - 12:00, Stary Rynek, "Bydgoszcz dla Demokracji i Wolności"
5. CZĘSTOCHOWA - 12:00, plac Biegańskiego
6. CZ£UCHÓW - 11:00, Rynek, "Człuchów dla wolności"
7. ELBLĄG - 12:00, Pomnik Ofiar Grudnia 1970 - plac Solidarności, "Elbląg dla demokracji nie inwigilacji"
8. E£K - 12:00, Park Solidarności od strony ul. Armii Krajowej, "Czerwona kartka dla rządu"
9. GDAŃSK - 12:00, Plac Solidarności
10. GORZÓW WIELKOPOLSKI - 12:00, Rynek
11. JELENIA GÓRA - 12:00, ul. 1 Maja 30 (róg. ul. Pocztowej)
12. KATOWICE - 12.00 plac Chrobrego pod pomnikiem J. Piłsudskiego
13. KIELCE - 12:00, ul. Sienkiewicza przy pomniku Sienkiewicza, "Świętokrzyskie przeciw ACTA-bis"
14. K£ODZKO - 12:00, pl. Bolesława Chrobrego (fontanna obok Ratusza)
15. KONIN - 12:00, ul. Dworcowa koło zegara
16. KOSZALIN - 12:00, Rynek Staromiejski 6/7
17. KRAKÓW - 12:00, Rynek Główny pod pomnikiem Adama Mickiewicza
18. LEGNICA - 12:00, Rynek, naprzeciwko teatru, "Obronimy wolność i demokrację"
19. LUBLIN - 12:00, ul. Radziszewskiego 17 "Chatka Żaka", przemarsz: pl. Teatralny, Al. Racławickie, pl. Litewski, "W obronie Twojej wolności"
20. £ÓD- - 12.00, ul. Piotrkowska 115 przy pasażu Schillera, przemarsz do pl. Wolności.
21. NOWY TARG - 13:00, Rynek koło Ratusza
22. OLKUSZ - 12:00, Rynek Główny
23. OLSZTYN - 12:00, Stare Miasto
24. OPOLE - 12:00, Rynek - Ratusz, "W obronie Twojej wolności"
25. POZNAŃ - 12:00, plac Adama Mickiewicza, przemarsz pod Urząd Wojewódzki, "Poznań dla wolności i demokracji"
26. RZESZÓW - 12:00, Rynek, "W obronie Twojej wolności"
27. SIEDLCE - 12:00, pikieta przed Urzędem Miasta
28. STARGARD - 12:00, Rynek Staromiejski, "Stargard dla demokracji"
29. SZCZECIN - 12:00, Pomnik Czynu Polaków, przemarsz: Aleja Jana Pawła II, pl. Grunwaldzki, Al. Fontann, pl. Lotników, pl. Żołnierza, ul.Małopolska, Jarowita, Szczerbcowa do Urzędu Wojewódzkiego, "Szczecin dla demokracji - przeciw inwigilacji"

30. TARNÓW - 12:00, Rynek, "W obronie Twojej wolności"
31. TORUŃ - Rynek Staromiejski, "Toruń dla Demokracji i Wolności"
32. WARSZAWA - 12:00, Aleje Ujazdowskie 1/3 (pod siedzibą KPRM), przemarsz trasą: Plac na Rozdrożu, Al. Ujazdowskie, Plac Trzech Krzyży, Rondo de Gaulle'a, Nowy Świat, Krakowskie Przedmieście, Pałac Prezydencki, "W obronie Twojej wolności"

33. WROC£AW - 12:00, Plac Solny, "ACTA BIS - robi PiS"
34. ZAKOPANE - 11:00, Rondo Kuźnickie, spacer do Kuźnic
35. ZIELONA GÓRA - 12:00, Rynek
36. BRUKSELA - 12:00, przy Rondzie Schumana (między Radą Europejską a Berlaymont), "W obronie Twojej wolności / Defending your freedom"
37. HAMBURG - 12:00, przed Konsulatem Polskim
38. SZTOKHOLM - 12:00, przed Ambasadą Polską
39. WIEDEŃ - 12:30, Schwarzenbergplatz, "W obronie demokracji / Im namen der Demokratie"

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39 isn't bad :)

You little rebel you.
Careful delph, as you being a foreigner in Poland you may be arrested for promoting the overthrow of government, civil unrest and violence and sent back to Scutland or worse yet, PRISON with no computer !

Scutland is rated number 1 in the world for violent assaults so understandable where you get such attitude.

You still haven't provided any crowd figures for the last series of street commotion.

what? delph is Scot?

who would say that. delph brat Sarmat. It explains some things but again, delph is still strange?

Perhaps, though nobody really blames them for Trump. Not that much, anyway.


Good news that there are so many. The last one in Warsaw was good, so many normal decent people and no trouble, no rancour, all positive.

Any crowd figures for the last series? Is this classified information?

Watch the TV news, Po3. After all, you whined yesterday that the Polish pro-democracy protests were dominating it.

Who is promoting the overthrow of government?


I take my inspiration from the Devetomartovski protest, Crowie.


Don't have it to hand, Polonius. A few thousand were reported on the day in Poznań, but I don't have exact numbers.

WERE is right (past tense)! Not only viewers but TV stations and print media are sick of the same old boring BS week after week. And all to no avail! A huge waste of human time and effort!

what can i say, Racowie are great inspiration.

Tell me, do you criticize Duda because you protecting EU or you just believe you are legalist?

Oh, you are. I saw a documentary on B92 a few years ago, and I hope that it never gets to the same point here.


I want them to follow the law.

if Poles always followed the law, Poland wouldn`t exist now. Not to mention that every NATO and EU country regularly braking the law. Why not Poland? ;)

In any case, i don`t think that they braking the law. They just set Poland on the course that would slowly move Poland away from EU and on the trajectory with Hungary and Serbia.