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Demonstrations in Poland in defence of democracy.


Ironside  50 | 12374  
11 Jan 2016 /  #841
Keep up the constant flow of insults please!

I see you are not even trying to deny the truth of my words. Balling something about fanatics and other nonsense you spew here is just your usual leftie trap trash. You would have to earn that privilege to debate with me and to be taken seriously , so far you have proven yourself to be a total waste of space and time. Keep clowning.
OP delphiandomine  86 | 17823  
11 Jan 2016 /  #842
Anyway, about next weekend - I expect demonstrations, but there's no official news as of yet. I expect something to be announced in the evening, however.
Ironside  50 | 12374  
11 Jan 2016 /  #843
Poor Ironside.

Poor you if you think that you are making a difference in the real world by typing here your BS.
G (undercover)  
11 Jan 2016 /  #844
I expect demonstrations

Mmm the numbers are growing, with a bit of luck they will reach 10 thousand attending :)))
Harry  
11 Jan 2016 /  #845
by typing here your BS.

The thing is that not only our posts here help: yours do too. Every time you post here this site goes higher up the Google rankings, so more people come here. And every time you respond to facts about the demonstrations in Poland in defence of democracy with insults and lies you further demonstrate to people who come here looking for information (as there aren't many English-language forums about Poland) what kind of people oppose the pro-democracy side. Please keep up the good work.
Wulkan  - | 3136  
11 Jan 2016 /  #846
so anyone looking for information about KOD will come on here

Keep hoping son :-)))))

Every time you post here this site goes higher up the Google rankings, so more people come here.

and see what a bunch of lunatics KOD people are
Polonius3  980 | 12275  
11 Jan 2016 /  #847
torrent of abuse, lies and insults

If that is the case, then the torrent of KOD-spewed abuse, lies and insults about PiS only means PiS are right. I felt that all along!
OP delphiandomine  86 | 17823  
11 Jan 2016 /  #848
Except KOD haven't spewed any abuse, lies and insults. Could you perhaps link us to some?

There was a great example of someone manipulating a KOD banner. It was swiftly and quickly discredited as a very crude forgery - and that's what the democratic opposition have to deal with.
Borsukrates  5 | 129  
11 Jan 2016 /  #849
Rzepliński, TK head (Constitutional Court) is criticized by right winged media and PiS for being a member of PZPR. Yet, he was elected by Sejm, and even Jarosław Kaczyński voted for him.

How do we explain this ?
a) Kaczyński voted for Rzepliński because of his affinity for PZPR ?
b) Kaczyński changed his mind about Rzepliński ?

I won't try to support a), that's delphiandomine's obsession. It's more likely that Kaczyński simply has communist mentality because he grew up in PRL.

But b), that would suggest Rzepliński stopped being a good person to Kaczyński. A person is good as long as he supports Kaczyński.
Ironside  50 | 12374  
11 Jan 2016 /  #850
Rzepliński, TK head (Constitutional Court) is criticized by right winged media

Rightly so as for being partisan, biased and representing a total lack of standards.

and even Jarosław Kaczyński voted for him.

Are you saying that just because JK voted for him, nobody should dare to criticize him? What loony house are you posting from?

How do we explain this ?

a,You are obsessed with JK.
b,You are a loon.

It's more likely that Kaczyński simply has communist mentality because he grew up in PRL.

If your theory is right you must have been living in piggery.

that would suggest Rzepliński stopped being a good person to Kaczyński.

Nah, that is projection, for you any trashy cranial criminal is good as long as is supporting your point of view. .
dagenhamdave  
11 Jan 2016 /  #851
Looking forward to the removal of the fascists.
OP delphiandomine  86 | 17823  
11 Jan 2016 /  #852
even Jarosław Kaczyński voted for him.

It's very interesting how Kaczyński's voting record is ignored by PiS supporters these days. For instance, Kaczyński also voted for the very constitution that he now has ordered his minions to break repeatedly.
BrytyjskiPolak  1 | 8  
11 Jan 2016 /  #853
Democratically? Are you serious? If 38% of the people who voted, wanted a government, it is senseless to call it democratic-the electoral threshold is the main reason, which I think should be lowered to 1%-to showcase the actual will of the voters, including minorities. And to add to the absurdity, only 50% of the population voted-meaning that only 19% of Poles allowed to vote, chose to let Kaczynski do what he wants to our beautiful country. And no, I am not a PO supporter, but even more, i hate the idea that a conservative, russophobic, socialist, freedom neglecting, MINORITY rules over my beloved country.

Smurf

Ireland has the luck to be a Island, which helps to maintain their identity.

delphiandomine

Stay safe-after what you are writing here, Mr Anthony might want to visit you at 5am.
Polonius3  980 | 12275  
11 Jan 2016 /  #854
abuse, lies and insults

The first lie is the name, because not democracy is being defended but the entitlements of certain elites, many nomenklatura-rooted;
The abuse of such terms as coup d'état, fascism, dictatorship, etc. in reference to one of the 3 best governments post-PRL Poland has ever had.

Insults hurled at prominent poltical figures, all democratically elected, are just a few examples.
And the biggest lie is refusing to tell marchers the real reason for the protests -- to restore the profits, perks and privileges of the clique which suffered disentitlement as a result of the last election.

ISN'T IT HIGH TIME FOR THOSE DISENTITLED BY THE ROUNDTABLE TO FINALLY GET THEIR JUST DUE?
BrytyjskiPolak  1 | 8  
11 Jan 2016 /  #855
Borsuklates

Kaczyński is a conservative socialist
The worst kind- just look at his social program expenses- if he left the money inside the pockets of tax payers, and didn't spread them out unevenly, then the social injustice would be lowered to a minimum! He is also leftist because of the amount of control he wants to have over the people of Poland. And, whatsmore, he broke the constitution in yet another way-using many loopholes, he made another position of power in the polish government- because of him being the leader of PiS, the parliamentary majority, he has the power to control every voting session-but because he isn't the PM, he cannot be put to trial, for treason, for making bad decissions. Because of this, and making the new laws about the constitutional court needing 2/3 of the votes to deside anything, the whole pre-pis majority of judges must be against the law, for it not to be passed-and because one judge might, just on the fatal voting become ill, making it practically impossible to stop Kaczynskies plan.
Polonius3  980 | 12275  
11 Jan 2016 /  #856
The worst kind

No, the leftist socialists are the worst kind. Those included Mao, Lenin, Stalin, Dzierżyński, Bierut, Berman, Gomułka, Cohen-Bandit, Michnik and the like.
Grzegorz_  51 | 6138  
11 Jan 2016 /  #857
If 38% of the people who voted, wanted a government

Dude, are you retarded ? They won free and democratic elections that were run according to the same rules as x previous ones. In democratic countries usually no more than 60% actually vote and hardly ever a single party gets more than 50% of that. Show me the list of Europeans countries where the ruling party got more than 50% of votes out of total population of voters. I'm waiting.
mafketis  38 | 10963  
11 Jan 2016 /  #858
They won free and democratic elections

no one's disputing that, but..... winning elections =/= ability to crap all over the law

any questions?
Harry  
11 Jan 2016 /  #859
where the ruling party got more than 50% of votes out of total population of voters.

Malta springs immediately to mind. Or at least it does to those of us who aren't PISed-up and thus able to think.
dolnoslask  
11 Jan 2016 /  #860
Interesting article on live leak

German Police confiscate polish banner defending polish democracy at a basketball game.

liveleak.com/view?i=216_1452539968
BrytyjskiPolak  1 | 8  
11 Jan 2016 /  #861
Every socialist is leftist, but not ever leftist is socialist
Philip 666  - | 39  
12 Jan 2016 /  #862
It's a question that we discussed here in quite a lot of detail

Thanks for your reply. An interesting post.
OP delphiandomine  86 | 17823  
12 Jan 2016 /  #864
Thanks for your reply. An interesting post.

No problem. I've heard some reports that some younger people are taking part, but it's still nowhere near the numbers really needed.

From my point of view, the biggest problem right now is that it's late on Monday and we still don't know if there's demonstrations planned for the next weekend. If this was really a "foreign funded slick operation", we would have 20 demonstrations lined up and announced already.
Polonius3  980 | 12275  
12 Jan 2016 /  #865
crap all over the law

Bad laws need to be amended, modified, scrubbed or replaced! That is what is happening with many of the Platformers' skewed legislative duds.
G (undercover)  
12 Jan 2016 /  #866
20 demonstrations lined up and announced already.

What to "organize" here ? They same dicks will show up in the same places standing there and doing pretty much big nothing. Outside of PO administrated cities that won't attract more than 300-400 people. In PO administrated cities... well, some people likely need to participate to keep their jobs, so they just stand there with their faces saying "what a boring nonsense".
OP delphiandomine  86 | 17823  
12 Jan 2016 /  #867
In PO administrated cities... well, some people likely need to participate to keep their jobs, so they just stand there with their faces saying "what a boring nonsense".

Any attempt to discredit the opposition, eh?

The truth is that the crowd very much wants to be there, and there's no element of being forced to participate. One of the central points of KOD is that the whole concept of forcing people to turn up (like PiS are known for doing) is absolutely a no-no.
Harry  
12 Jan 2016 /  #868
Bad laws need to be amended, modified, scrubbed or replaced!

Sadly for you and the rest of the PISed-up fanatics, the Dear Leader Chairman Kaczynski lacks the votes in parliament to change the constitution, which means he and his puppets have to respect it.

the whole concept of forcing people to turn up (like PiS are known for doing)

It's a pity that KOD isn't bankrolled by the foreign interests the PISed-up PF VIPs rant about; if KOD had that kind of money they could do what PIS does: organise free shopping trips from the villages to big cities.
Ironside  50 | 12374  
12 Jan 2016 /  #869
Any attempt to discredit the opposition, eh?

Telling it as it is doesn't fill that label your hanged out here so amply.

It's a pity that KOD isn't bankrolled by the foreign interests

Really? Do you think that any political party can form itself Monday to Friday on a short notice without any substantial money? You are either a very naïve person or you are lying to us.
Polonius3  980 | 12275  
12 Jan 2016 /  #870
Amen!

discredit the opposition

Yes, oppositon to nomenklatura disentitlement and bankster rule should be both discredited and exposed for what they really are. The façade of defending

democracy is a total sham!

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