Demonstrations in Poland in defence of democracy.

I really hope it is, I'm particularly looking forward to that one (although I'm having trouble thinking where to go after the protest, at least with the TK there is no shortage of places to go for refreshments afterwards).

Anyone wondering what kind of country we're now living in should read this :

tvp.info/22988121/kto-grozi-liderowi-kod-kijowski-poprosil-o-ochrone-policja-wszczela-postepowanie


This is exactly why we're taking to the streets this weekend in order to defend ourselves against Russian-style assaults on democracy.

That is some BS. KOD annoyed a lot of people for their hypocrisy and lies. Implying organized action or connection to government is simply black propaganda, nothing new as this kind of dishonestly typical for a troll, internet stocker and impersonator you are.


The only assault on democracy are by elements that are unable to recognize result of the democratic election.

I might have a wander down to Jaro's too. Being where it is, it should be heavily policed and therefore orderly. Afterwards, Klubogaleria on ul. Szajnochy is a good bet; they have some interesting bottled beers and it's only a few mins away on foot. That or a wander in the other direction to the place that has all the Czech pivo.

So this is an anti-democracy protest by those who oppose the democratically elected President and government of Poland.


There is nothing in the constitution which elevates the judiciary above the other democratically elected branches of government. It is very much to the contrary. Good luck getting the votes of 2/3's of the legislature to remove Duda from the presidency. It is not happening, so you can protest all you want.


HA HA HA HA HA! ROTFLMAO!


It might be theirs, but it isn't yours.


Exactly.


No Sh1te Sherlock. Many of these people are not Polish citizens, exempli gratia, foreign English teachers who can't make a living at home.


Exactly. They are protesting to support the anti-democratic, elitist doctrine of judicial supremacy, and foreign influence in Poland. These people are not democrats who can't accept that they lost an election in a nation where many of them can't even vote. Elections have consequences, or there is no democracy in a republican form of government.


You can always stop by the British and South African consulates with your fellow protesters.


Jaro's is the happening place to protest for the rainbow warriors.

If you want to find out more about these protests and join your local chapter of the Committee for the Defence of Democracy (KOD - Komitet Obrony Demokracji) :

National organisation :
facebook.com/groups/KomitetObronyDemokracji
and
komitetobronydemokracji.pl

Regional chapters :
komitetobronydemokracji.pl/koordynatorzy-regionalni-komitetu-obrony-demokracji

I stress - this is a non-partisan, non-aligned movement that wishes to defend our democracy against the anti-democratic actions of the current government. Everyone is welcome. Many members speak English, so it's not a problem if you don't speak English. We're also working on organising meetings to reach out to non-Polish speakers.

Because some guy got police protection ? Ah these expats...


Are you going to call for the peace keeping forces to step in :))))) ?

The Russians assaulted democracy in Ukraine by sending their foreign troops to protests acting like political protesters. Sounds like this is a similar plan to destabilize Poland by foreigners.

Ta very much! I would expect the Tri-city to be well represented. I will do my best to be there.

What's quite remarkable (at least here in Poznań and I think also in Warsaw) is that the KOD groups are made up of a broad section of society - for instance, there's a lot of women with children involved, because they simply fear for their children's future. The fact that it's non-partisan is really attracting people, and it's the reason why I'm involved as well.

Demo organisers often claim they represnet a cross-section of the population and usually inflate the figures. Police counts are usually more accurate. But since the impression of a large crowd is an indispenable propaganda tool, the organisers of many demos try to enlarge them by hook or by crook. That can include social networking, texting or providing added incentives (cash or free beer for instance).

KOD is surely a misnomer. Considering the number of PO supporters and sympathisers involved, KOOSR would be be an apter acronym:
KOMITET OBRONY OBCYCH SI£ RYNKOWYCH!
BTW, since you have moved on to your next project (KOD), you still haven't explained what ever happened to the giant rainbow which was to span Plac Wilsona!


Here are some suggested slogans for your planned demos:

Niech żyją zachodni bankowcy - nasi ukochani sponsorzy!

PO bluzga, jątrzy, pyta -- chce się dopchać do koryta!

Bruksela naszą milością!

Lobbyści i sprzedawczyki wszystkich narodów łączcie się!

Aby Zachód się rozwijał, a naszym sponsorom, żyło się lepiej!

Maybe a bit of English for variety:

Join PO -- perks and kickbacks guaranteed!

Banksters forever!

Don't discard your party ID, the Platform will rise again!

Patricians, oligarchs, nouveaux riches -- PO love to be on your leash!


You still haven't explained what ever happened to the giant rainbow which was to span Plac Wilsona! R U 1 2?

Just to confirm with the mods, suggested slogans for demonstrators' placards are acceptable here, right? So we can propose slogans for those who wish to support PIS' attack on the constitution, right? Slogans such as "Pseudo Poles for the Pseudo President!" and "The Constitution bows to Chairman Kaczynski" and "VIP Americans support VI-PIS".

Or just for local residents. Many friends and neighbours tell me they may have a look.

Tell them to wear their pink outfits.

i just read somewhere,there were 20 people attending Protest ...half of them protesters must have beeN them old bald brits from PF.

The one next Sunday?

TV showed a really motley crew of rag-tag protesters shouting, chanting and waving KOD placards. Many looked like they needed a hand-out. Maybe the gratuity will cover drink money at least for one day.

ahh..okey.must have been different "protest" whats was this KOD protest then?images abit below:
facebook.com/KomitetObronyDemokracji/photos_stream


i heard they being paid 35 zl each "proterster". protest somwhere organized by Hartman.i will try to find more info

Hahahahaha. You "heard" nowhere, you've just made it up. It's this kind of desperate, pathetic smears by "patriots" that we're partially demonstrating against.

Don't worry Gregy, there will be a lot more than 20 on the streets this Saturday.

need to increase that 35 zl. a tad more,who knows,maybe sum local homeless bums join em.othervise TVN gonna have some big time hard time with them camera angles.

Your smears are amusing, because if you have to resort to such crude lies, then you're obviously scared.

just giving you guys some constructive ideas..
how about staging protest on one of them spinning wheels in some funfair..that would surely double your attendance numbers in TVN news

Gregy, Gregy, I smell nothing but fear ;)

yea..be afraid be very afraid...KOD is comming...throw sum more coins guys...35 zl just not enough those days

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Numbers are growing Gregy, and your insults are just driving more people towards us.

please be careful with that growing ...think of overpopulated earth.

Be brave little delph.

How about "Balding White South African English Teachers Who Came To Poland After Apartheid Ended For Judiciocracy"?

Which constitution is PiS attacking? Under Poland's pre-war constitution, Lech Wałęsa is still the president. It was never properly amended.

Funny, but there are no protests by Polonia or Polish citizens reported anywhere in the U.S., or the U.K or Ireland for that matter.


With the market flooded with all of the balding old British English teachers and other young Brits there for the cheap beer and stag crawls teaching English, 35 Zl. is probably about an hours wage for them.

Incorrect. As per usual, you're displaying knowledge of Wikipedia and nothing else - you've obviously read the (wrong) claim that the 1997 Constitution wasn't legal because it wasn't approved in a referendum with at least 50% of voters. However, in Polish law, the 50% figure is what makes the result legally binding, not what makes it legal.

In Polish constitutional theory, the 1997 Constitution comes from the 1992 Small Constitution, which in turn comes from the 1989 amendments to the 1952 Constitution. That in turn derived legitimacy from the 1920 Constitution, with the 1935 one only being used to symbolically discredit the PRL, but not used for legal purposes. Either way, the 1997 Constitution derives symbolic legitimacy from the link to the I and II RP.

You really shouldn't try and comment on Polish constitutional matters, as clearly you aren't familiar with it.

Game, set, match to Delph.