How will BREXIT affect the immigrants in UK and Poland.

but joined British and SU occupation of Iran lasted till 1947 i believe

The price of peace perhaps ?

Britain did not want to go to war again with Stalin over Poland's independence. Poland was just collateral damage.

I think when some Poles talk about Poland being "sold" they do not mean literally

30 silver roubles.

Strategically i dont blame Winston for not wanting to tango with the huge red army and besides he could not do that at all. He had his own to look after, who can blame him. Also, such a war would have cause such destruction its unthinkable. There really was no way out.

I doubt he could have, even if he'd wanted to (and he was the only allied leader who was sympathetic to Poland). By that stage the money had run out, a world war on several fronts had taken its toll and any decision was entirely in the hands of America, most of whose citizens couldn't find Poland on a map.

Nevertheless, Polish servicemen and their families, as well as other refugees born in Polish territory (not all were Poles, some were Ukrainians, Belorussians and Lithuanians) were allowed to remain in the UK and become citizens. Around half decided to stay and half decided to return. Those who stayed, mostly became a valued part of the community. Some of their descendants identify strongly as Polish, some do not identify at all as Polish, most on a continuum between those two possibilities.

Churchill btw, supported Jean Monnet in developing a European community of nations.

And that is why like trump or hate him the usa is important to poland and always will be. While the uk is also important it no longer wields the power.

Hard to disagree with that.

Within Europe, the U.K. (a trillion dollar economy) is still important to Poland though. Britain allowed free movement for Poles from day one of Poland's time in the EU, whereas most countries did not. One result of that (plus the language familiarity, availability of work etc etc) means that Poles are now one of the largest minority groups in the U.K. and there are huge and growing economic, family and personal ties.

One of the reasons that so many people here in PL as well as Poles in the U.K. are worried about Brexit.

Britain, Ireland and Sweden.

The United States and Poland enjoy a very close bilateral relationship.
This has caused strategic and commercial cooperation.
U.S. companies are active in Poland and have invested heavily since the late 1980s back when Poland began its transition from communism to democracy and a market driven economy.

Abundant opportunities remain for U.S. firms in Poland to keep Poland's citizens at home working.
Poles continue to demonstrate a strong affinity for the United States and its products.
Once the Brexit door slams shut another door will open for Poland.
And when it does Britain is going to have to allow more Muslim immigrants in to maintain a work force.
Britain needs Poland but Poland does not need Britain.

@johnny reb it's a nice sound bite, but if you had ever been here, you would realise how wrong you were

We have to remeber that and help the brits where possible. Lest we become like some others. For all the rhetoric and anti eu and so on i cant help but feel something for them. I dont know why. It doesnt feel right not to.

You sound like delph now


Britain would be crumbling all the faster if it were not for the Polish workers.

i do NOT sound like Delph, thanks.
Honestly J'R you sound deluded, and it is really obvious you have never been here. do you really think that Polish are the only immigrant workers?

On the building site of today, Poles are in the minority. The work is being done by Romanians, Moldovans, Albanians, whoever. I know that cos my son was just working on a building site in the big city.

Ffs stop bickering all the time you all do my head in.

well you were happily joining in a bit of anti Brit rhetoric approx 16 mins ago weren't you? Tsk. Then when you realise someone is going to pick you up on the nonsense that you spout, you start whining about your head..:):)

I dont think anyone is going to be really affected. The govt needs the workers.

I dont even know who the hell ypu are talking to. Its like you can't read.

'It's like you can't read'...OK .sure.
Maybe it is more about you having problems expressing yourself with the written word then?

Exactly Roz, once Britain leaves the E.U. I highly doubt that they are going to force all the Polish workers to leave.


That was a low blow and I do apologize.

sfine JR...:)

Then when? Everything you say is made up. At the point you said i was anti brit my words clearly support brits. So on so forth. Every paragraph you write contains a minimum of two falsehoods refetring to things that were not said. Its either your inabilty at comprehension or worse you are that silly where you think in a space of one post people can't see you are changing the entire content of peoples posts and pretending its what they wrote. Classic! Ok then? Busted too many times not worth talking to.

Merged:

Teresa May-and EU citizens

Looks like Poles in the UK are now safe :)

no surprises there then..:):)

its bollocks guys.i know legislation regarding this proposal.its rubbish.the thing is in details.
basically,only the ones with permanent residency status (people who worked 5 years without gap) will meet criteria.but those people dont need any EU brokered deal,since they already have permanent residency for life,such as me.this is big Lie what shes proposing.

she propose stay status only to those who spent 5 years legally in the UK.problem with this is that,being legally here in the UK means "working or student,ect.

it takes 2 months of brake between jobs and you start 5 years from scratch.all ppl who were self employed or have no acquired 5 years continues employment without any gaps,will not make criteria.and its very hard.

OK so for example, if you were not doing PAYE and not declaring income , you might have to leave, even if you had been there for many years?

I just cannot imagine anyone being asked to leave, its too much, UK needs workers, doesnt it?

being leggally here in the UK for a pole ,he must be either working,student,or self sufficient.(have money,insurance,accommodation paid)
if you dont meet any of those criteria,you are not legally residing.
to get permament residency ,you need to be legally for 5 years.if you have gap in employment longer than 2 months ,you start 5 years period from the scratch.

i been working here for more than 11 years ,and i had to go to tribunal to get permanent residency..cus i had 4 months brake in 2011

but the worse thing is that shes talking bollocks.shes not making any concession,saying that Britain will ALLOW them to stay.cus those people she spoke about(the ones that have 5 years period completed) are already permanent residents.and this residency cannot be revoke.

shes a crook lier,i hope those people in EU will see it through

basically,shes saying that those polish who have already permanent residency status can stay..lol

OK thanks Gregy, that does sound like nonsense...what if someone was self sufficient but unofficially? eg no tax paid etc/working cash in hand.

no way...even people who paid taxes through self employment wont get that period counted.getting right to reside through "self sufficient" is impossible to meet.

you need to get all insurances,tenancy agreements and income proof for all the time.and you cant show or say that you been working cash on hand,cus its illegal.you cannot be legally self sufficient "unofficially".

its very hard for people who were working as self employed,zero hours contracts,or through agencies to get 5 years time completed.
she propose "stay" for Poles who have permanent residency that means that she offer something that those people have acquired "stay"status already, for life.

its just bollocks.

I must admit it would amuse me if my ex husband was deported..
but on the whole, yes , this is bollocks.

i tell you my case..
i acquired almost 5k in spring 2011 from contract i done.i lived with german girl,and we decided to take brake and go Poland.i was out of work for 4 months and had almost 20k on account,rented one bedroom ect.

answer was NO..not entitled.i had to go to Tribunal and argue that i had to leave UK for 2 months due to my mums health problem.

i had fkin lawyer there and,"self sufficient" option was not possible ,even for that 4 months..mind you,i been living here since 1999,with some gaps.


doesnt he have citizenship through marriage?

in that case, just sit tight...this May woman won't be here long, I am sure of that.

I guess he could be a British citizen through marriage, but I am not sure if he even went that far. Its all in the distant mists of time...