Berlin terrorist attack -- Poland's ethnic homogeneity a true blessing

It's a good book, though the protagonist is an absolute cock.

@delphiandomine

Can't say never read it : / i ordered what happened and plan to read that next. I'm rly curious to see her perspective on the election and the present political arena in us

Oktoberfest kicked off in Germany yesterday

First [publicly known] rapefugee strikes - 16 year old girl raped by Afghans in Munich.

tz.de/muenchen/region/afghanen-vergewaltigen-16-jaehrige-in-hoehenkirchen-siegertsbrunn-8689800.html

Cultural enrichment episode 1 105 897.

14 year old girl raped in broad daylight in a London park by black male

independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/girl-14-raped-london-avery-hill-park-greenwich-teenager-a7949851.html

It`s a shame about the declining moral values of Londonistan.

If the people, the politicians, the military and the cops had some balls this kind of stuff wouldn't happen nearly as often as it does. Muslims have been trying for over a millennium to invade europe, establish mosques, and force their laws and customs on European society. Wars were fought over this where countless people died. Heroes like charlemange, Sobieski iii, Charles the hammer Martel and many other including the unsung heroes ones are rolling in their graves. The west let them in with open arms and look what happened. Now they're sick of all the problems this mass migration caused and want Poland and the v4 to help with something that they were never consulted on nor agreed to back in 2015.

I'm willing to bet that migration from the west namely native French German etc is going to pick up in eastern Europe. In France thousands of Jews leave each year for Israel because they're sick of being verbally abused and even physically assaulted by the newly arrived migrants. Even in wroclaw I meet more and more people leaving the west and bringing their families to Poland and they absolutely love it.

Funny how a million Ukrainians can cone to Poland and there's hardly any issues whatsoever yet when a million Muslims came now to europe we have non stop terror attacks, rapes, murders, riots, cars and even police stations being set on fire. All sorts of madness. If Poland is to accept Muslims it has to be in very small numbers, vet them extremely carefully and verify who they actually are so you don't have a scenario like in Germany where tons of migrants with no documents were let in and not vetted at all and most importantly spread them out so they don't create 'special zones' rife with unemployment crime and a haven for extremists. Also offer them social services and job training so they and their families which often includes a soccer team of kids aren't leeching off the state.

But they don't have the cojones at all!

Political Correctness governs their society and this is the outcome of it.

We have to stop it in the US before its too late.

It's not what all of this is about. Poland's so called obligation is to take couple thousands Muslims, meanwhile Europe is flooded with millions of them. It's not even scratching a surface of the problem. But that's irrelevant.

This whole shebang is about deciding who's the capo di tutti capi in EU. Eurocrats wants it to be European Comission, meanwhile countries like Poland want to be in a union of sovereign nation states.

And that's what's in the stakes here. Controlling your borders and who is allowed to cross them is one of the very core elements of sovereignty, and EU wants a precedent of stripping that away. Helping "poor war refugees" is just a disguise, not even good one. But that doesn't matter, all that matters is getting that foot in the door, then it will be easier to swing it open all the way.

@kondzior

I voted to remain in the EU but if the EU insist that member states HAVE to take in a quota of migrants (and I am making the distinction between refugees) then I think the EU and Europe in general will be f***ed up for future generations

Even more fecked up if we don't.

We could always be a depopulated folk museum while teh rest of the world prospers.

An "open" society always runs the risks of attracting the bad along with the good.

If the rest of the world were prospering there wouldn't be a migrant crisis...

Most of the migrants making their way to Europe are doomed to be wards of the state as are their children. How is this a recipe for prospering?

@kondzior

Well I'm glad someone else sees what's really going on... Poles have had their country and their sovereignty taken away far too many times. We won't let it happen again at least not without a fight. Were not going to let some unelected commissar dictate what we should be doing in our own country. We want to stay in the EU but not at the expense of giving up our sovereignty especially when it comes to things like immigration policy. No one told us to take in 1 mln Ukrainians. We did that on our own and imo it was a good decision.

Don't know if I'd call this prosperity and I can't think of a single good reason why Poland would wnat to get invovled in this rolling clusterfvck

westmonster.com/lampedusas-mayor-we-have-fallen-into-anarchy-after-migrant-influx

Gerries/EUnuchs/marxists in order to take over control, want to destroy national states using rapefugees as their foot soldiers. Likely millions will die during that process, just like the last time.

The world is changing. America is looking ahead at its reduced role in what they call a 'post-hegemony' world. Europe is no longer an economic powerhouse. Those parts of the world with the highest birthrates are the future.

Not if they reproduce beyond the carrying capacity, the massive population explosion in the middle east is a major source of problems there (including being a non-trival contributor to the Syrian war).

People are not interchangeable widgits and most people taken from places with bad education systems where (secular) education is not respected will never be anything but dependent welfare pets for self righteous liberals in Europe.

breitbart.com/london/2017/09/16/90-per-cent-asylum-seekers-austria-end-welfare

If you want European culture to continue you don't overwhelm the local population who despise its very foundations.

Yeah, Somalia, Mali and Congo are the future. You commies first destroyed the birth rate of Europeans using a variety of both fiscal and social tools and ow use it as the reason to pimp upon us the whole 3rd world madness.

This is a huge problem in some countries. Not all, but for instance, the UK has a dreadful problem with middle class white social workers choosing to deliberately ignore things in minority communities.

(Maf, come on, don't post Breitbart links - this is a better one - thelocal.at/20161007/viennas-benefits-system-like-magnet-for-refugees

I care about truth, not whether the source is pleasing to people. If people cannot find factual inaccuracies in the source then I want to know about them, but if a person rejects information just because of the source isn't ideologically pure enought then they are demented and not worth debating

I assume you're referring to the threat that Poland could either leave the EU, be expelled from the EU or be hit with financial penalties they don't accept certain migrant quotas ?

Any scenario where Poland loses access to EU funds would be terrible for the country but.........the EU cannot make rules up as it goes along.

Is there any type of "EU constitution" that states each member state has a legal obligation to take in foreign migrants ? I don't mean refugees, I mean people who are travelling (without paperwork) to seek a better and easier life and bypassing the established immigration system to get what they want.

The EU cannot be allowed to sweep the distinction between refugees and migrants under the carpet as that distinction is integral to whether countries are forced to accept foreigners into their lands.

If anyone is more au fait with EU law then I would love to see where it says that member states HAVE to take in migrants. I would also like to see exactly how the EU are deciding on whether someone is a refugee/asylum seeker or migrant.

The worrying thing is that the EU seem to be making the rules up as they go along and being part of this "club" with it's rolling requirements cannot be good for any member state.

Hit by financial penalties by itself, being fully part of our Union.


The rules which Poland is part of are very clear, and not made up "as they go along".

So where do the rules say that one country can unilaterally dispose of border controls against illegal aliens? And that other countries are supposed to help control the damage of Merkel's Migrant Madness?

If the EU is just turning into a few politiicans and unelected technocrats telling everybody else what to do then getting out is a good idea.

Look it up, why dontcha. No rules were broken.


Heading for re-election.

They also tend to be the poorest least educated and least developed places in the world. Wealthy industrialized nations realized a long time ago that there was less and less need to have 5 6 7 or more kids as people moved away from agriculture and into industry and commerce. Also people in industrialized nations don't send their kids to schools where they spend years memorizing religious books. Most these people aren't educated in skills needed for the modern world and hence few of these people have much to offer besides unskilled labor. Its even hard to get them to do that once they come to europe as the welfare payments in europe are more to them than any decent job they can get back home.

USA eu and China are still top 3 in terms of GDP and I don't see that changing anytime soon.

If anything the BRICS are the future. Even countries that have a large nominal GDP with low gdp per capita like Mexico have strict immigration policies. Why? Because they don't want a deluge from even poorer countries like Guatemala and Honduras. The Mexicans laugh at us immigration policy. A bunch of white cat ladies, antifa basement dwellers, snowflakes interspersed with a few actual Mexicans protest America's immigration practices yet only the Mexicans realize that's it far more lenient than their own country's. Same with tons of other countries. Look at China it is the most populous country in the world. Yet their immigration is extremely strict and even just residency is very hard to get. English teachers that work there take a short school sponsored vacation every 3 months or so to comply with immigration laws since its easier to do that than try to get residency. Meanwhile China's biggest export has become people now. Every country in the world there's Chinese. They're the new colonizers from Jamaica to Mongolia to Poland to Africa. The country is full so they're going abroad. Some countries like canada and apparently now Hungary offer millionaire Chinese a fast track to citizenship. Tens of thousands if not over 100k have settled in Vancouver already.

Its time europe and us follow other country's example and not be a bunch of pu$$ie$. The immigration officials need to only ask one question to an applicant - how will you benefit the country? And if the answer isn't satisfactory back to your hut. No more of this gimme gimme gimme.

Well quote the source for God's sake ! If you are claiming the rules "are very clear" then share them with me because I cannot find anything.

The 2015 quotas weren't agreed to by all members namely eastern eu members and Poland definitely wasnt consulted in this decision. The EU imposed a quota on Poland with PO ruling st the time. The only source I can find where this would be legally valid is under the 3 pillars which has since been amended. However I'm not a legal expert esp on eu law so a citation or at least a treatys amendment that spells this out could offer some insight if a poster can find it. One of the reasons why PO lost the PL elections is because they agreed to take in migrants which poles saw as a slippery slope. Its not about the 4k 7k or whatever - Poland could have easily accommodated those people but that's not the point. Its the principle of slippery slope. If the eu says take 7 thousand they can then demand more and demand other things that violate sovereign decisions which are up to citizens and their elected officials. Ill also mention that according to CBOS, 3/4 of Poles surveyed are against migration from middle east and Africa (around half of PO/Nowoczesna supporters are against and 90% of Kukiz/Pis supporters are against). The protests against this were huge including 150k in Warsaw which msm in the west didn't cover at all.

More and more people are starting to realize that bleeding hearts who ride in limos and jets in offices thousands of kilometers away who aren't even elected officials are deciding the fate of their country and infringing on sovereignty. There's a line between helping people and hurting the citizens of your country. Many eu officials don't care about what polish or hungsrian citizens what though or even the negative impacts of what migration has done to French citizens in calais. The uk had to pay for a wall on French soil... Very sad and very telling what state were in. EU was originally made to be an economic union which promotes free movement of people and goods. But the eu officials wanted more political power in member states and hence came the treaty of Lisbon. At least with it came the option to secede as the uk took advantage of.

Poland should have chosen to opt out of the eu influencing its home and justice affairs like the UK and Ireland. We can settle our own political issues we don't need someone from Brussels telling us that the rule of law is in danger as if Poland is early 2000s Iraq or something.

Do you think a bureacracy, one with a very high level of monitoring, one that's belt and braces careful, 'breaks the rules' just to annoy some dude on the internet...

Simple. The decision was agreed by member states on a recommendation by the European Commission. It's crystal clear that you cannot just change your mind once you've agreed to such a thing.