Don't let Poland become like my country, France.

The last time the fascists did well in the first round of an election there, the whole country turned out in the second round to defeat them. We can expect much the same this time.

If FN wins in France I would be so happy.
Finally a Western country who grew up and faced reality.

Decent people will make sure they don't. We can expect a lot of discussion about this over the next few weeks.

Don't let Poland become like my country, France.

Looks like its happening. National Front and PIS.

Yes, they will let 6 million muslims to Poland, it makes sense.

Fascists are a nasty lot but still than communists any day! The body count tells the story: compare the number of victims of the Nazis, Fascists and Francoists combined to those of the Lenins, Stalins, Maos and Pol Pots and you have your answer!

No difference at all between them when push comes to shove. Nationalists, fascists, communists, religious fundamentalists. France deserves better and hopefully the second round of voting will sort things out.

I still can't wrap my head round the French electoral system, but it seems that the Socialists have effectively said to vote for the Republicans there - which they will to make sure that the FN doesn't make large gains.


Those of us that follow politics know that there's not much chance of them winning due to the way that the French electoral system allows several parties into the 2nd round.

Basically tactical voting, so the two decent candidates aren't competing against each other and only one candidate stands against the baddy. Worked quite well last time. Also, last time there was a higher turnout for the second round.

You apparently are out of sync with the developing European-wide Zeigeist which is turnibg away from the Brussels dictatorship in the direction of freedom, sovereignty, independence and national heritage. There still are misinformed individuals like yourself with outdated pro-Eurocratic mutli-culti views, but your number is dwindling in leaps and bounds.

Let's wait, shall we, until the second round of voting is over; when there's a solid turnout of people who don't want nationalistic forces of darkness. Above all, the French (whether secular, Muslim or any other religion) cherish freedom, equality and brotherhood.

Rather like the better educated and more cosmopolitan elements in Poland.

nah...they had some taste of this freedom and brotherhood ,few weeks back in Paris,quite bitter.doubt,anyone cherish that sh.it

Rather the opposite even, Greggs. And they survived and the French are still committed to a secular state. You might also notice the regions where the fascists got most of their first round votes.

Considering the fierce media and state propaganda that French voters are facing and will be facing until next Sunday, Front National may not end up with so many regions in the end. Even tho French people are fed up with the political status quo and have lost faith in 'their' politicians. Which partly explains why FN is so high.

I mean, it was all meant to be. Considering the situation.

I almost agree with Polly, will wonders never cease. AFAICT the mood on the ground at present in just about every European country is away from further European integration and the political elite in almost every country is determined to pursue further European integration.

A mismatch between popular will and elite goals is hardly a new phenomenon but when the political elite is so determined to ignore what voters want things get dangerous. The danger here is not Le Pen (not a patch on her father and the only one tackling a very big issue in a way that makes sense for many French) but mismatch between those in charge of the EU and what EU citizens want.

If democracy means anything then the powers in the EU will back off and give EU citizens some breathing room against the spectre of "we need more European integration".

How much harm could Le Pen do compared with the absolute harm done to Germany (and Europe) by Angela Merkel?

When the unending migrant influx finally leads to a continent-wide catastrophe, old Anegla will be a prime candidate to face the Hague or Strasbourg tribunal.

Polonius, Merkel and Hollande will enter into history for being responsible for the destruction and complete islamization of France, Germany and consequently of entire Western Europe.

hopefully we will survive to see they be judged for the chaos and death that they created with their political correctness.

Wrong address. I have long been a foe of PC, the new free-speech-muzzling dictatorship.

Poor Gregy, he got it rather wrong.


bbc/news/world-europe-35088276

surely rigged election by leftist...i dont trust them as far as i can throw them..need to count them votes again..

While FN lost, at least the Socialists where humiliated. From Almost all departments except 1, they had only 5 departments now while the Republicans have 7.

Socialism is dying (except for the british lunatics of this Forum) and that is good news.

And what is winning?

The French Parti socialiste (PS) hasn't been very socialist in the past few years. Not sure they can really be called socialists.

That doesn't seem like a humiliation at all, particularly as PS went from 23% of the vote to 29% in the second round. You've also failed to mention that the PS won both some important regions, including Aquitaine and Bretagne.

Do try harder.


What is it with all the right wingers claiming every lost election is rigged?

The French election strikes me as more kicking the can down the road. It doesn't solve anything and could lead to a more dangerous situation down the road.

A large portion of the French electorate is clearly unhappy with the status quo and all the elites can think of is to join forces to keep their concerns from being addressed.

And quite frankly, the resutls are not those of a healthy society with a sense of self-preservation. There have been two major terrorist attacks in the country in the last year and people are still worrrying about Le Pen rather than the people carrying out the attacks.

Sick, tres malade est la France (nb I know that's probably not good grammar je ne care pas).

Everyone grows from the first to the second round since you have less competition.

As you said, the PS went from 23% to 29%.
Meanwhile the Coalition of Right went from 32% to 41%.

And consider that last elections,in 2010, the Socialists had 49.5% (against the 29% that they had now), while the coalition of right had 35% (against the 41% that they had now).

So before the Socialists had 15% more voters than the Coalition of right. Now they have 12% less.

Yes, this is a humiliation. A Complete humiliation caused by a complete failure of the multiculturalist socialists.

Just like the humiliation that they suffered at United Kingdom

Just like the humiliation that they suffered at Poland (Not even a single member at the Sejm! LOL).

And many other electoral humiliations that socialists like you are going to suffer.

Because people are waking up.

Great, doesn't look like France will go like Poland.

Nice one.

And..
They didn't win even one single region. People turned out to vote in order to ensure that the fascists didn't get in - and it worked. Common sense restored and good to see people working together.

Their electorate has tripled.


For now. the problem is that the FN friendly electorate is growing because no other parties are addressing the issues that bother many French voters. At some point the party will have to be declared illegal (and the illusion democracy will die) or they'll win elections. It would be better if they learned how to run things before then (the quickest way to tone down most "extreme" parties is for them to run things at the local level.


Just like the novel Submission by Houellebecq.

No one likes the French (for good reason!). But I find it odd that people are so determined to point out that they're not that bad at predicting the future. First there was the Camp of the Saints and now Submission outline the major problems of Europe and so few people are paying attention.

Doesn't everyone like the French??!?

The task now is to reduce the appeal of the fascists and get more ordinary people out to vote, especially in the regions where they did well.