Adam Michnik awarded for integrity, professionalism and high standards. Poland's No. 1 fascist?

...by a minortiy of like-minded, similarly deluded and/or co-ethnicists.

As one of Poland's best known former dissidents and celebrated journalists, he's very widely respected indeed.


Aside from "co-ethnicists" not being a word, do you mean this group:


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You insists on something that is not true. He is not widely respected not by a long stretch..

So you keep saying, from abroad (and from a rather odd perspective). He's actually very well thought of and people admire his stance, particularly going to jail for his beliefs back in the totalitarian years.

I'm sure he means everyone who doesn't find Father Ted funny.

As you keep repeating your opinion, he might be well respected in your circles. Few years back he wasn't liked but yes he respected by many but it is no longer true, simple. Right now he is being simply ignored and few people care about him and his views.


Come on you are talking about his fun club. They simply belong to a very narrow and small minority.
Many people hate his guts or despise him for his hypocrisy and double standards and for his notorious meddling into politicks by slandering and labeling people he happens to disagree with.

As for his jail time, same can be said about Macierwicz and many others, he is not some exception or a lone hero. Although he plays this card to the hilt, to the point nobody's give a damn about his so distant past. They would rather remember his defense of Jaruzelski, Kiszczak and his brother traitor and totalitarian court lackey who partook in murdering Polish heroes after 1945.

Majority don't care as to what he has to say or about him and his overplayed past.

Well respected by normal moderate people. Unlike the extremist Macierewicz that you mention - someone roundly disliked.

Nope, respected by progressives, neo-Marxists and his cronies from democratic union. I wouldn't call them moderate after all their are revolutionary at heart, neither they are reasonable with they ideology defying sense and logic.


True he got a bad rep. which he doesn't deserve to be honest. He is a hardly an extremist, he is simply consisted and focused as all those hardy long term oppositionist and dissidents stating up to the man, Soviet secret police and totalitarian state.

He doesn't make a good impression on TV or the radio but personally he is a very composed, intense, warm and intelligent person - no sign of implied obsessions, extremist - hardly.

Which means that he's essentially a political opportunist, just like Kaczyński. I've never believed that either of them actually believed the stuff they come out with.


I think anyone who doesn't live in the world of PiS or the far-right can respect Michnik for what he's done.

Let's be honest : had Michnik been a pro-PiS journalist, you would never say a bad word about him.

Raving mad would barely serve to describe it.

I don't care what party he is supporting and for that matter majority of Poles agree with me on that.
What's more I have given my unbiased assessment of his standing in the eyes of Poles.


You sure are entitled to your opinion. I would say that speaking in public is not his forte.

Absolutely spot on.

Michnik and Balcerowicz are among the most despised and detested people in the eyes of ordinary Poles, and it's they -- not oligarchs or snooty elitists -- that count.

Unbiased? When have you been ever objective about Michnik and other "enemies"?

Sweet pie, I have provided readers with unbiased assessment of Michink standing in Poland. You might don't like it or disagree with my assessment but your childlike attempt to discredit me doesn't give you any credit. Need I remained you that when it comes to gauge prevalent political mood in Poland you have been always wrong.

No, you really haven't. Given that Michnik is well liked and respected by a considerable section of society, you've just provided an assessment straight from fronda.pl. The right wing is obsessed with him beyond all belief, and you're just parroting their views.

That considerable section are just a tiny minority as I have said.


Bah, not at all , you just need to read my post without your usual bias against me.


Hmm don't like him for a reason but he is no longer somebody to be reckoned with, he lost all his standing in society.

Not really. Most normal, rational people that aren't blinded by hate can respect Michnik for what he's done, hence why he tends to get awarded by credible institutions.


Your post is just the same old regurgitated nonsense from fronda.pl and other places. If you said that he was a deeply divisive figure and that some sections of society absolutely hate him - it would be true. But claiming that the "majority of Poles hate him" isn't true in the slightest.


Could agree with that. There's a new generation coming through.

What he's done is hijack Solidarity's newspaper and turn it into a KOR-ite rag amd private geszeft of his cronies, promote his own kind, revile patriots as traitors and hail traitors as "men of honour", conduct a Pole-bashing editorial line and promote anarcho-libertinism to mention but a few of his "achievements". And he has never publilcy disassociated himself from his family of communuist criminals. Apparently they were all of the "correct" ethnicity and that automatically lets them off the hook. He ranks with Balcerowicz amongst Poland's most detested characters. BTW, R U 1 2?

@Pol: I don't know the guy but I am well aware that his newspaper is by very far the most read paper in Poland. Of course, I am talking about real newspapers not garbage such as Fakt or Super Express. How many readers for GW and for Nasz Dziennik, for instance? ;) You may not like GW and you are not forced to like it but you cannot deny that it is No. 1 paper in Poland.

No-one is denying that Michnik's ilk are known as shrewd businessmen and crafty manipulators well versed in marketing, PR and propaganda. And, as you know, in today's mega-commercialised world that translates into huge profits.

@Pol: recognize however that it is by far the no.1 in Poland, no matter what!

Absolutely. And does not depend on donations from anonymous sources like the ghastly Gazeta Polska.

Only proves how gullible and easily seduced the public can be -- no match for skilled professional manipulators!

@Pol3: in fact it also works for 100% of politicians (from everywhere).

Nope, they who awarded him don't represent a normal rational people but a certain ideologically biased group.


What other places? I don't read fronda.pl.


All Poles - meaning politically active Polish people who are against the system and liberalism and progressiveness.


What? The new generation is mostly into a national movement, they are few dudes going left, mainly progeny of the red menace. None care about such a old geezer like M.

You're nearly right and almost all of them are basically feathering their own nest. But there are always a few exceptions of noble, patriotic and dedicated defenders of the nation. Piłsudski and Kaczyński immediately come to mind, also Dmowski and Paderewski.

Merged: Adam Michnik -- Poland's No. 1 fascist!

"The biggest fascist in Poland is Adam Michnik and his 'Gazeta Wyborcza'. No-one else refers to Poles with more disdain than that newspaper," remarked film-maker Ewa Stankiewicz during a counter-demo outside Kaczyński's home. "That is fascism, that is the NSDAP. It was Michnik who introduced hatred and contempt into Polish public life."

fronda.pl/a/najwiekszym-faszysta-w-polsce-jest-adam-michnik,62162.html

I'm rather enjoying the part that you're quoting Fronda as a reliable source :D

For anyone that doesn't know, Fronda.pl is a very extreme fringe Catholic right wing site, knowing for making up endless lies and nonsense about anyone that they don't agree with. They loathe the Pope, they loathe anyone that is different, and the quality of their journalism is comparable to the average 20gr toilet paper.


Anyone that looks at fronda.pl can see that the site is full of hatred.

If you don't like pron don't look at it.

The same goes for Gazeta Wyborcza. Easy to ignore if you don't agree with it. In the meantime, we have (hard-won) free-speech in this country.

Apart, of course, from The Dear Leader Chairman Kaczynski.

Anyway, here's a photo of a sign carried by somebody that The Dear Leader Chairman Kaczynski would probably call 'the Best Sort of Pole' and to whom Michnik would, hopefully refer to with disdain: