German legal discrimination against Polish speakers

Another example of how the Polish are ahead of their times.

How can the German government legally discriminate against Polish speakers, Turkish speakers, any non-German speakers for that matter?
There's some incomplete information here.

Because they don't. Johnny is just bumping up an old thread to stir things up, nothing more.

I think he made it very clear myself.

So the Polish father called the German a 'racist' before the word racist was even cool.
Poland back eight years ago was already hip to that game and way ahead of the rest of the E.U.'s Political Correctness.
That was my point.

Thanks again, Delph!

Smelled something fishy right from the start of this thread.
Guess I was right on...for a change.

There is more info: webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:DacbbxBzM14J: abendblatt.de/hamburg/polizeimeldungen/article106540403/Wojciech-Pomorski-und-sein-Kampf-gegen-die-Stadt-Hamburg.html

Looks like both of us win a box of cracker Jacks for being right.

Sadly the article is hidden behind a paywall for me.

Finally had a chance to ck. out the link.

Boy oh' boy, this guy's really in a mess! He sees the whole thing as a free speech issue, but the locals don't agree.

What do you think, Johnny?

@Tacitus, same with me! I had to access the site/link through Google because I don't have a facebook acc.t. I wasn't able to

log into www. hamburgerabendblatt. de directly.

Just use the long link, and on the first link that appears use the cached version of Google...
(Das kleine grüne Dreieck vor "Translate this page")

It is an old one, from 2011

I wasn't able to log in either. :-(

Dammit...

Just follow B.B's prompt instructions and you should be just fine. If a born-again technojerk like yours truly can get it, you can too, no worries:-)

Germans in Poland have a minority rights and also granted presence in Polish Parliament

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_minority_in_Poland

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_Minority_Electoral_Committee

Poles in Germany don't have minority status and Poles are present in Germany in large numbers since the end of XVIII century

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poles_in_Germany

Because Germans had been once natives in these territories (like Breslau..like Danzig)....as the borders had been changed after WWII and the lands were ethnically cleansed and resettled with Eastern Poles. That's why the surving Gemans have there minority status.

Poles had always been immigrants to Germany, never been natives...

That's why Sorbs and Danish have minority rights in Germany too and Poles don't. Otherwise Turks who came as Gastarbeiter during the 60s for example could claim minority rights too...

To compare Sorbs to Danish is first class scandal. Danish and Germans were/are those who occupied land of Sorbs. Plus, Poles are also natives to Germany.

And its shame that are Lusatian Serbs (Sorbs) seen as minority on their own land, within Germany.

But it will be changed in changing Europe and world. If Germany recognize rights of Shquiptars (Albanians) to secede from Serbia and take native Serbian lands with them, what you think how will be respected German (occupational) right to prevent separation of Lusatia from Germany? One word, - won`t. Germany sealed its own fate.

@Bratwurst Boy

"German nationals of Polish ethnicity in Upper Silesia had judicial status as a national minority[8] under the auspices of the League of Nations (likewise the Poles of German ethnicity in the Polish Silesian Voivodeship). After the rise of the Nazis, all Polish activities were systematically constrained, since mid-1937 also in Upper Silesia. However, in August 1939, the leadership of the Polish community was arrested and interned in the Nazi concentration camps of Sachsenhausen and Buchenwald. On 7 September 1939, shortly after the outbreak of World War II, the Nazi government of the 3rd Reich stripped the Polish community in Germany of its minority status. This was formally confirmed by Hermann Göring's decree of 27 February 1940."

So basically modern Germany follows Hitler's Nazi Law

Did Polish people have minority rights in what is nowadays Germany? No, because they were immigrants there (e.g in the Ruhr Valley). As to why Germany did not repeal Göhrings decree, take a guess.

Perhaps because the affected area no longer belongs to Germany?

Poles not even minority in Germany? Funny. Really. Independent Poland will ruin German schemes. Not without price, that for sure. But price will be even bigger if official Poland continue like this, with this impotent policy.

Because they're not from there. They're economic migrants, nothing more.

Germans should stop trying to lecture the rest of Europe on how to behave.....you are the last people in Europe that Europeans should trust.....

And still you try to dominate Europe!!
No,the heinous crimes committed by Germans should not be forgotten yet.....it's still too early....

Who wants them to be forgotten?

There are 82 million Germans out there and you are telling us that none of them should be trusted? Paranoid much?


No, they shouldn't, but that's a very slippery slope you're going down, my friend. Deliberately starving 4 million Bengalis to death during WW2, hunting the Aboriginals on Tasmania to extinction, or running the Boer concentration camps aren't particularly civilized either. But it's always easier to point the finger at others, right?

Nah, that is stretching the truth. It about 100 years, if a group of people have been settled in a certain area they have the right to got all the rights to be a recognized minority. The Polish people had that right in Germany before the war - Mr Hitler took that away from them ( with property and money)and now lovely, friendly, democratic Germany doesn't want to give it back. Darn aren't all that just a fake and feigned. Well why don't you go FY. (not you BB my pal- your gov and its policy)

But that's about Silesia Iron (you are my pal too btw.), Silesia is no territory of modern Germany anymore, there is no minority rights to give out by the german gov.

@The Other

Are you seriously trying to compare the crimes of The British Empire(And yes,I call them crimes),to Nazi Germany???
You need a reality check mate.....

Nah, it wasn't about Silesia, it was about Berlin, Ruhrgebiet and other places.

No, but it's always good to remember your own history before throwing stones in a glasshouse. I know quite a few folks back home who haven't forgotten Gallipoli either. Just saying.

@The Other

Fair enough,point taken.
But there is still no comparison.

Yes in Upper Silesia, where there was an historical justification for doing so. There is no historical justification for granting them those rights nowadays. The Polish people in Upper Silesia (and now the German people living there) found themselves living under "foreign" rule due to shifting borders. The Polish people who lived in the Ruhr Valley lived there (and continue to live) there because they made the conscious decision to emigrate.


What is Germany supposed to give back? All the property confiscated lies in modern-day Poland.