Our daughters-princesses are still trained by mothers to catch the man for the uncertain future (in some cases to catch a farmhand).
So you are trying to tell Us that in western countries women are not looking for rich man? The truth is that women usually trying to use the men for their own plan ( she wants a big house, she wants a baby, she wants to learn English) In Edinburgh guy 's case I presume that she was new in Scotland, she had to improve her English, after a while she became more confident, she realized she can pick up better man and she dumped him.
Your women are kind of friends our are kind of princesses.
Our women are like princesses because they look like princess
Yes, Edinburgh guy, I have the same opinion. I cannot imagine myself in a relationship with a Polish girl [I am Polish living in Poland] - I observed many times that, or similar situation:
The guy smokes cigarettes. He meets a girl, who is not smoking cigarettes, but they are later in relationship. When they are in relationship, she starts demanding him to give up smoking, to give up alcohol drinking with his mates, to be some kind of a guy she wants him to be.
So I am asking... why is she in relationship with a guy, whose smoking is a problem for her? For some reasons they try to involve themselves in a relationship with men, who have more visible disadvantages, and they try to play Mother Teresa - to change him.
Women are physically weaker then men, so they learnt how to abuse men psychologically. I don't think so that only Polish women got this skill, but no doubts Polish girls somethimes drive a rusty nail into men's chest
@ Edinburghguy. Why did you stay with her for 2 years if she was so horrid and abusive? - doesn't make sense.
Lots of men stay in relationships with horrid women who wear the trousers, but instead of leaving and finding a warmer woman they stay put. I've never understood this.
Another thing I don't understand, and this is women in general, not just Poles, is the arrogance of some women towards their man when they're nothing special by way of looks. Sometimes a very beautiful woman can be forgiven, but when ugly women talk to their men like **** and "demand" things, wear the trousers etc, you have to wonder what the man is getting out of it! Ugly on the inside AND the outside! lol
Some men become the WOMAN in the relationship, they become pus*y - whipped. There is nothing more unattractive than a feminine man imo. When I'm in public places and see the woman laying down the law to her man and the man being all "yes sir, no sir, what ever you say sir" especially when she's nothing special to look at, I just think WHY?!
My girlfriend is very demanding. And i like that. Even because it helps me to improve myself everyday.
My Father told me those famous words when I started dating girls, "A woman can make you or break you."
Men must know to say NO. That`s it.
Right Crow and no doubt when bedtime comes you will hear your echo. Women always remind a man when he demands that HE wear the pants in the family that she wears the panties. Next see how her Father treats her, if he gives her everything she wants then she is going to expect her man to also. If her Father expects her to work, have manners and show respect then she will be all broken in for you.
especially when she's nothing special to look at, I just think WHY?!
Maybe she is filthy rich or has an open minded knock out little sister. The perfect woman would be, young and still trainable, be a polite hostess at the door, a good cook in the kitchen and a hot wh*re in the bedroom. :-)
Yeah in a dream world, but these perfect women want the perfect man it would seem. Handsome faced, good body, big willy, nice house, few quid in the bank.
When I see miss matched couples, when one party is significantly hotter than the other, I think hmmm, she/he must be buying him/her or expecting a big inheritance soon!
Ultimately, people should try for their equal rather than chasing the unobtainable. There are lots of miss matched couples in London. You'll get a good looking dude with a below average looking girl and yet he'll allow her to lay down the law and talk to him like ****.
I feel very sorry for the married men when the wife lets herself go. Before marriage, she's slim, nice to him, let's him shag her. Once married, she becomes fat, talks to him like ****, makes demands and withholds sex. I see it all the time, and I mean ALL the time. Poor weak, pathetic husband just sucks it up.
Women are physically weaker then men, so they learnt how to abuse men psychologically.
I swear it, they have the advantage on us in this respect and if you meet the wrong one, you're in for abuse until you leave or remind her of your advantages in other respects.
I had three serious relationships with polish women. First two, my choice was based on nice character, common interests, there were good looking, well educated girls, we had some problems, not to many fights tho. Third choice was beautiful girl, hard to resist and i learnt one thing thank to this relationship, that wise man and stupid man will never agree on anything. I dumped her, or maybe I made her dump me and now I enjoy peace again.
This forum has some real gems from time to time but posts like the above are truly perplexing. I.e. a large number of men have commented on how the "I'm always right, even when I'm wrong" attitude many Polish women have is a major turn off; basically what a lot of men are saying is it's hard to move forward in a relationship with someone who's always trying to do battle over every little thing. And then, sure enough and early on, along comes a Polish woman to insult them and basically live up to the reputation Polish women are quickly gaining.
She offered zero solutions and just resorted to insults. Okay then, what would you suggest we do, start backhanding you every time you pipe up and step out of line? I'd rather just leave if it comes to that. I don't know when it started but it's like some weird attitude shift has happened among Polish women and it's UGLY.
A woman is supposed to be sensitive as a man is supposed to show courage. An insensitive woman is as unattractive to men as a cowardly man is to women. It's something some women should consider but few actually will.
^^ Maybe not a back hander, violence is never the answer, but at least be the man and don't let you woman walk all over you and wear the trousers in the relationship. The number of effeminate men that post feminism has created is staggering. It's quite simple, men should be manly, women should be womanly.
Even if a guy is good looking, the minute he allows women around him to talk to him like ****, he loses his masculinity and becomes unattractive to women, plus his male mates will laugh at him.
I appreciate your reply but I'm not sure you read what I wrote very carefully, I did state I would sooner leave than let it come to blows. My only method has been kicking them to the curb but it's a bit frustrating after a while.
"At least be the man and don't let your woman walk all over you and wear the trousers" isn't really advice. That's putting the responsibility on the man for her behavior, that's basically saying she's not responsible for controlling her own behavior. You know else who aren't held responsible for their behavior?
Of course it's advice mate, but was talking to the collective you, not just YOU
I think English must be your second language as I cannot really make sence of your post. For example, how does the man wearing the trousers in a relationship mean she isn't responsible for her own behaviour? Do you think it's normal for the roles to have switch as has happened post feminism? - it's far from normal mate.
Do you think it's normal for the roles to have switch as has happened post feminism? - it's far from normal mate.
it is normal these days for women to have to work to support the family. The days of men being the breadwinner are long gone, not sure if you have noticed. It is not really about 'feminism' more about feeding families.
You're argument is non-sensical because nowhere have I stated men should be the bread winner. You have spotted "roles have switched" and assumed I'm talking about employment when I'm not. Dopey, silly woman.
you see that is what we are up against. Obviously power has shifted if women need to work. I am as far from 'dopey and silly' as possible. Little little man.
In my posts above, nowhere have I stated anything about work, or power shifting. Regardless of what's going on at work, or who's earning what, women need to act like women, not men. They need to talk to their man like he's on the same level, not talk down to him. Far too many women wear the trousers in their relationship.
...but you carry on talking about work and earning money, when nobody has even mentioned it, if you like.
look I am not 'dopey' OK? Is that how you deal with women that do not agree with you? tell them they are stupid?f
Great. Maybe it is just the women you pick? Here is a tip, go for a better type of woman. If you think that the power balance in male female relationships is not affected by who earns the money, then you must be even more stupid than you already sound
Just ask the guys in this thread about moody, argumentative, demanding women. They're everywhere.
The very beautiful ones can be forgiven but it would seem even average looking women are doing it now. You have to wonder what the poor guy is getting out of the relationship. she's moody and demanding - but not even good looking to balance it out!
I had three serious relationships with polish women. First two, my choice was based on nice character, common interests, there were good looking, well educated girls, ...
That reminds me of an old joke:
"When I was 14, I hoped that one day I would have a girlfriend. When I was 16 I got a girlfriend, but there was no passion, so I decided I needed a passionate girl with a zest for life. At university I dated a passionate girl, but she was too emotional. Everything was an emergency; she was a drama queen, cried all the time and threatened suicide. So I decided I needed a girl with stability. When I was 25 I found a very stable girl, but she was boring. She was totally predictable and never got excited about anything. Life became so dull that I decided that I needed a girl with some excitement. When I was 28 I found an exciting girl, but I couldn't keep up with her. She rushed from one thing to another, never settling on anything. She did mad impetuous things and made me miserable as often as happy. She was great fun initially and very energetic, but directionless. So I decided to find a girl with some real ambition. When I turned 31, I found a smart ambitious girl with her feet planted firmly on the ground and married her. She was so ambitious that she divorced me and took everything I owned. I am now older and wiser, and am looking for a girl with big tits."
I'm surprised how disrespectful toward women some of the posts are here. Stuff like beautiful women being able to expect more respect from men than 'ugly' ones, the idea of women 'snaring' men for money, the concept of men being in charge and women doing as they're told.
Get real, guys! Poland is a modern European democracy where women have options other than marrying knuckle-draggers. Polish women are generally well educated and hard-working people who can look after themselves so will pair up with men who show them love and respect. Try doing that and you might win the biggest prize ever: the love of an amazing Polish woman!
I'm surprised how disrespectful toward women some of the posts are here
In my opinion such posts are being written by the teenagers with no real experience with intersex relationship or and this is an disturbing thought by some broken individuals.