Any treatment centres for homos in Poland?

Praise where praise is due :) Being open-minded in such a way helps :) It takes a brave person to go against the grain and state their views.

What kind of 'treatment' do you envisage, Pol3? Please break the process down to me as I sometimes teach vocab like rehab, detox and intervention. Weaning sb off of sth and relapse too. Would you care to explain to me how treatment for gays would work!?

Yet again a few Poles bang on about their bigoted bulllshit 'opinions'. Yawn. No wonder so many people round the world have the (incorrect) opinion that Poland is a nation of fuccktarded idiotic bigots.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypothalamus#Human_sexual_orientation_and_the_hypothalamus

So barring the hypothalamus transplant I don't know how those clinics could 'cure' anyone. Homosexuality exist pretty much in any species down to the insect level, fulfilling some very practical and crucial roles depending on a specie.

Humans are rather complex beings and so is the role of their homosexuality - a matter and a question not often looked into due to social and religious taboos.

Assuming that all our actions, thoughts, ideas are motivated by our self-preservation instinct i.e. procreation to be more precise ( at least that's my take on Freudianism, someone please enlighten me if I got it wrong) one could go a step further and conclude that the very same actions, ideas are equally limited by the procreation. And here comes the homosexuality, devoid of the aforementioned limitations, it allows humanity to take certain trends and developments a notch further, out of the box so to speak, greatly contributing to our ongoing evolution.

Without the 'homos' we would truly be a sorry bunch. To name few: Socrates (no I don't mean our esteemed forum college here), Aristotle, Alexander The Great, Michael Angelo, Peter The Great (ha, who would have thought!), Oscar Wilde, Tchaikovsky... well the list goes on.

lambda.org/famous.htm
famousandgay.com/s.html

So they are here to stay and thank Whoever for that, btw. Seanus my deepest condolences for your red hair condition:)
In case you guys wonder I am pretty straight. I tend to bend a little in the wind, especially when there is a flag attached.

Cheers

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you mean me?

Now harry you've just shown your real face...

Zeti, I wouldn't say so, no.

Medication time, Flapless Pole :) Back to reality.

Tell me, Pol3, why are gay bars legal?

Also, please address the gay treatment issue. How do you imagine it to be?

haha.. the truth is the truth.. and no, you're maybe the most open minded of all poles from poland here. you also seem to strive to learn new things..


yup


maybe but others of "your" generation, who participate here, haven't showed your kind of open mentality at all. quite the opposite, in fact.


again, agree. :)


a lot of prayer.. a good dose of holy water.. you know, the standard stuff. ;) :D


why would you even think that? come on..

Read the article. If your Polish isn't good enough have someone translate it. I didn't write the article, only ran across it. I am wondering myself what kind of behaviour modification could be used to de-homosexualise someone who sought such treatment and how it would work in practice.

Pol3, I suggest you read the article. If your Polish isn't good enough then I'll translate it for you.

And where is this 'wondering' leading you?

Aha, we'll have a whipround for Rizlas :)

I just mean that Harry will use every opportunity to slander Poles

Not one bit of scientific proof. Plus anyone "expert" who says otherwise has most likely a hidden agenda.


Not their sexuality.

Geeez did you folk do biology at school or did they not fit that into the school term cos they were too busy trying to rub sticks together?

haha.. nice. :)


you shouldn't feel that touchy.. you know you're right.. so, quit worrying what harry thinks; especially harry.


fear the lord!. ;)

See my post on page 2

That's an interesting opinion for a Polish woman. You are, of course, aware that gender pay gap in Poland is largest in Europe approaching 30%?

I know many homosexuals and they just live their life

They're not doing it in order to hide. They're doing this under a naive belief that 'God will cure' them.

I am heterosexual, I am comfortable with that.

I do not have a problem with other peoples sexual persuasion.

Some people have a problem with homosexuality - why ?

So priests are pedos and homos?Who will save us from the Satan?

correct:)

I have the suspicion that they are doing this in order to engage in their team activities away from the public eye.

also correct. Hey King - doesn't Greece have many almost ancient monasteries where women are not allowed today? I remember reading an article about it. I am not suggesting anything, but Greece has a well established monastery culture.

Yes,in Athos.There is rumour that one woman managed to enter by dressing as a man but I don't believe it.Fact is women are not just allowed into the monasteries they cannot even set their feet on the ground of Athos(part of Chalkidiki) for the last 1500 years.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mount_Athos

thanks, this is probably the place I was reading about. Interesting.

when i meet the gays i know i usually say: hello sodomites. they laugh and say some equaly nasty joke in return. like i said, only stupid people with complexes get offended.

Well, it's fine that you can be tongue-in-cheek. I wondered what was moving around in your cheek all that time :) I might have thought otherwise ;)

I don't think sexuality is a persuasion :) Persuasion is something you believe in by the reason you applied to undersatnd it. Sexuality is not a belief or knowledge as such, it is part of your nature.

I m just wondering why some people get offended by it - maybe its a case of "protesting too much " - maybe they are questioning their own sexuality ?

I guess that depends how often they get 'persuaded'? ;)

I hear the whole questioning their ow sexuality excuse a lot. But I don't buy it. Personaly I think its more to do with too things. 1.Being afraid of something which isnt the norm. 2. That it leaves questions unanswered in their own beliefs.

Don't forget taboo. Sth may not be the norm but not be taboo at the same time.

Maybe some ppl, like myself, have a lot of gay friends and they're the nicest ppl one can know. They haven't bothered anybody, but that's not the point. They are my friends and I won't let some bigot with skewed views on the topic insult them when they have done nothing that could pssbly insult them. And besides, it's a blatant insult to ppl who are "different", when it shouldn't matter at all. It's also about freedom and the rejection of anything that discriminates others.

Edit: oh, and I am most definitively not gay. I just don't care if sb else is. It really doesn't bother me.

>^..^<

M-G (but other ppl may have other reasons why they are offended)