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Any treatment centres for homos in Poland?


mafketis  38 | 11009  
17 Nov 2010 /  #361
No one can choose what they want. Who hasn't known this since ..... forever?

That doesn't mean that what people want is always genetically coded. This is just making DNA into a new God.
I wouldn't be suprised if there's a genetic component to lots of human behavior but that wouldn't be enough on its own.

Rather than the victim of genetics argument I think gay activists and their allies need to argue on privacy and freedom of association grounds (as well as property rights).

If two men or two women want to live together that's their right and as taxpaying citizens they need some degree of legal protection from the state in issues of things like communal property and inheritance.
Seanus  15 | 19666  
17 Nov 2010 /  #362
You are confusing 2 separate things. Privacy is the trump card for sure but that's a different dimension of the debate. Who is really going to enforce sodomy laws behind closed doors? That's another aspect.

As for choosing, you said it. They can't choose. Why punish a group for being born that way? Why suggest treatment when there is no harmful disease?
zetigrek  
19 Nov 2010 /  #363
Something to upset trener żółwia:
...
watch 7:55 ;DDD
trener zolwia  1 | 939  
19 Nov 2010 /  #364
Something to upset trener żółwia:

Cape May! That's my seashore town! :D

Strict homos...
They're prolly better parents than this Lib mess:
dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-1330689/Portrait-VERY-modern-14-year-old-Tattoos-piercings-drinking-alcohol.html

edit: How about that, over here the homos are the treatment centers! :p
But I don't think it's was really fair to throw those bad kids into a gay situation like that with no warning. Seems it was done by the show producers more for cheap shock value than anything else. I'm sure they coulda found a strict hetero couple to place them with...
Teffle  22 | 1318  
20 Nov 2010 /  #365
throw those bad kids into a gay situation

LOL

crackle "I need back-up here. At least three homosexual white males, unarmed. Seems like a gay situation might develop - any cars in the area?"
Maybe  12 | 409  
20 Nov 2010 /  #366
Are there any treatment centers for Straight people in Poland?
trener zolwia  1 | 939  
20 Nov 2010 /  #367
Over here the answer would be: Hollywood along with every public school serve to indoctrinate the masses. :s

Why fix what ain't broke?
Patrycja19  61 | 2679  
20 Nov 2010 /  #368
Now you two stop arguing about homosexuality so just kiss and make up, er, um, I mean.....

you like watchin that stuff dont you.
trener zolwia  1 | 939  
20 Nov 2010 /  #369
Something to upset trener

I watched the entire four part series. I enjoyed it.
ZIMMY  6 | 1601  
20 Nov 2010 /  #370
Are there any treatment centers for Straight people in Poland?

LOL

I need back-up here. At least three homosexual white males, unarmed. Seems like a gay situation might develop - any cars in the area?

LOL
Lodz_The_Boat  32 | 1522  
20 Nov 2010 /  #371
Are such medical options already avbailable in Poland

I dont know about it ... but I can tell you that you have opened a wonderful thread.

Homosexuality is an ailment of the mind and the soul. The person suffering from this ailment is not to be hated, but taken care of and encouraged to practice abstinence from overwhelming thought of such behavior. There are wonderful ways of meditation for it ... I did not know the medication but perhaps science and technology is improving more rapidly.

Trans genders have a right to come to ONE GENDER for their own good, and the good of the society.

Hope that the world will be a better place.
ZIMMY  6 | 1601  
20 Nov 2010 /  #372
Homosexuality is an ailment of the mind and the soul.

Perhaps homosexuality is natures way of keeping the population down?

The person suffering from this ailment is not to be hated, but taken care of and encouraged to practice abstinence

There are 12 guys in our poker club, two are gay (but not with each other) and we couldn't care less. I wouldn't tell them to practice abstinence any more than they would tell me to (although its been 5 days since.....)

medication

Four in our poker club smoke pot (but not when playing) and we don't much care about that either. ... but medication will not cure homosexuality. Who would be authorized to give it? Some government overlord?
mafketis  38 | 11009  
20 Nov 2010 /  #373
crackle "I need back-up here. At least three homosexual white males, unarmed. Seems like a gay situation might develop - any cars in the area?"

Warning, fabulousness may ensue. I repeat fabulousness may ensue. Be careful and on the watch for shirtlessness and dancing...
ShawnH  8 | 1488  
20 Nov 2010 /  #374
Perhaps homosexuality is natures way of keeping the population down?

Well then, using that logic, we need a bit more homosexuality in some overpopulated countries.
Lodz_The_Boat  32 | 1522  
20 Nov 2010 /  #375
keeping the population down

I dont know how much more down do you want our population to go? ... I dont mean to be wailing here but the Population of Poland as well as other European countries are always going down. Each year we have less people than we had last year. Ukraine is suffering the world ... Russia aswell. Poland is also suffering ... I met an Estonian colleague and he said how their population came form from 14million to just above 10 million now.

Infact ... there is a prediction for Russia if its decline continues at this pace. Its a grim prediction.

I wouldn't tell them

I guess the topic starter said that "Those who want ...". Its a post not catching anyone by the neck, but infact saying being open to alternative solutions if someone would like it. There is nothing wrong in the nature of the query.

we don't much care

But then there are people who do. Caring is nothing bad ... it gets more doors open then not to care.

Infact I personally am against any form of artificial stimulant (as drugs) or toxins (including Alcoholic beverages) also tobacco (in any of its various forms). But that doesnt mean I go after anyone I see with it. I have some relatives I know who consume alcohol. I do not, neither does my parents (my mom left wine on occasions after she married dad). No does my siblings ...

By the way none of us were forced ... but were given the knowledge that such things are not good as it derails the mind.

I remember an American TV Series "MacGyver". MacGyver (on its 6th season) said that drinking is bad, because it supresses the inner good and releases the evil. A person fails to think properly and gets out of control. It is no way of living.

I loved that word by MacGyver ... a true icon of the late 80s and 90s.

Who would be authorized to give it? Some government overlord?

Meditation does have been able to relieve people of such ailments. There is a certain Swami Ramdev of India (with schools all over the world as well as Poland) who gives alot of beneficial yogic meditation techniques as well a exercises. He infact have cured some.

Link: yogpranayam.com/shippinginfo.html (services are available in Poland, and one of my Mom's friend actually practices the meditation which relieved her insomnia and other pain and many other problems she said. Nothing good in trying out good natural ways to cure and prevention).

As the friend here says about medications aswell ... surely they have benefited some.

The point is not in forcing someone with it ... but letting this alternatives and options be available for those who would be wise enough to take it. Also encourage people by informing the presence of such alternatives!
mafketis  38 | 11009  
20 Nov 2010 /  #376
In related news, fans of the Lech Poznan soccer team are worried that Poznan (and Poland) hasn't had enough negative international publicity and have decided to do something about it by hoping to attack the latest Equality March and saying things like "The pigs are protecting the fags" and "I came here to kill gays".

The march went on with heavy police protection.

Through the streets of Poznan passed March of Equality. It was preceded by the manifestation of hooligans Lech Poznan 'against gay propaganda". "If we catch, we break" threatened participants Equality March. The police pushed them from the route march, but the hooligans are trying to lock it again. The march itself set off with delay

poznan.gazeta.pl/poznan/1,36001,8690788,Raz_sierpem_raz_mlotem_teczowa_cholote____manifestuja.html
Lodz_The_Boat  32 | 1522  
20 Nov 2010 /  #378
Its stupidity to kill gays or do things which are abusive. It's also an excess for gays to go on a stupid march.
trener zolwia  1 | 939  
20 Nov 2010 /  #379
The march went on with heavy police protection.

Gays hold their outlandish parades in order to incite and instigate. Can hardly blame folks for reacting just as the gays had hoped they would.

If they'd keep that sh!t in the bedroom where it belongs and not out shoving it in everyone's faces there wouldn't be all these problems.
jonni  16 | 2475  
20 Nov 2010 /  #380
Gays hold their outlandish parades in order to incite and instigate.

Or to have fun and assert that never again will discrimination be tolerated or the will of others be forced upon us.

If they'd keep that sh!t in the bedroom where it belongs

Parades belong in the bedroom? Or if you mean the sex, would you say that Valentine's cards between straight couples using birth control belong in the bedroom?

shoving it in everyone's faces

Nobody's forced to attend. Perhaps you think that on Columbus Day, people are shoving their Italianness in people's faces?

faqs are not real human beings

Maybe some evidence or sources for that nonsense?

killing these scum would let us purify human species...

Who else would you kill?
smurf  38 | 1940  
20 Nov 2010 /  #381
Gays hold their outlandish parades

Yes, but they always have better style than us lot :)
trener zolwia  1 | 939  
20 Nov 2010 /  #382
Or to have fun and assert that never again will discrimination be tolerated or the will of others be forced upon us.

Couldn't they do this without the flamboyant outfits, the assless chaps and men grinding on men?
No, they want just the kind of attention that they receive. Hardly any 'pride' to be found in any of that mess.

would you say that Valentine's cards between straight couples using birth control belong in the bedroom?

Silly. :s

Nobody's forced to attend.

Well, the whole idea of a parade is to put it out there on Main Street, in evereyone's faces. And this makes it kinda hard to avoid. This, by design.

Perhaps you think that on Columbus Day, people are shoving their Italianness in people's faces?

Hardly comparable. I don't recall ever seeing Santa grinding on Rudolph floating down Main Street...
mafketis  38 | 11009  
20 Nov 2010 /  #383
Couldn't they do this without the flamboyant outfits, the assless chaps and men grinding on men?
No, they want just the kind of attention that they receive. Hardly any 'pride' to be found in any of that mess.

I have a pretty dim view of that kind of parade too, but AFAIK that's not what happened today (for one thing assless chaps are going to be hell in Poland late November).

Equality marches in Poland are pretty staid affairs, that such even fully clothed appeals to general tolerance (and discretion) can incite violent behavior says a lot about those wanting to do violence (and those tht give them moral support).
ShawnH  8 | 1488  
20 Nov 2010 /  #384
I don't recall ever seeing Santa grinding on Rudolph floating down Main Street...

That would be in the Bestiality Parade. Not to be confused with the GR Parade.
ZIMMY  6 | 1601  
22 Nov 2010 /  #385
Its stupidity to kill gays or do things which are abusive. It's also an excess for gays to go on a stupid march.

Are you actually comparing the two as being equal?

Gays hold their outlandish parades in order to incite and instigate.

Oh c'mon, some are probably titillated too.

Couldn't they do this without the flamboyant outfits, the assless chaps and men grinding on men?

I was thinking of getting one of those chaps and I'm hetero. I was thinking of wearing it backwards.......

I don't recall ever seeing Santa grinding on Rudolph floating down Main Street..

You've never been at the corner of Halsted and Roscoe.

for one thing assless chaps are going to be hell in Poland late November).

Hence the expression; "freezing your ass off".

Bestiality Parade.

Oh, never mind, I'd better not......

there are people who do. Caring is nothing bad

It is when there is uninvited interference into other people's private life.
Seanus  15 | 19666  
23 Nov 2010 /  #386
What do some people here imagine the response rate of homosexuals to be to such clinics? There are those homosexuals that have gone abroad to more liberal climes but I think some here would probably go as they have been bombarded with the nonsense that they are weirdos and degenerates. Social conditioning is pretty strong in Poland.
Piotr123  3 | 54  
23 Nov 2010 /  #387
We have a lot of gay parades in Sweden and they are nothing but degenerate spectacles of decadence and disgust. I don't mind people being gay if they stay in the closet.

The people encouraging and organizing the parades are of the same ethnic group everywhere in Europe, but for the risk of being politically incorrect I'm not going to go into more details.

Still, I know that the gays that take part in the parade only represent a small minority of all gay people. In my opinion any healthy society would ban such spectacles.
aphrodisiac  11 | 2427  
23 Nov 2010 /  #388
The people encouraging and organizing the parades are of the same ethnic group everywhere in Europe, but for the risk of being politically incorrect I'm not going to go into more details.

Poles?
Lodz_The_Boat  32 | 1522  
23 Nov 2010 /  #389
It is when there is uninvited interference into other people's private life

Then it should stay in their personal places, not on the middle of the street knowing that it can offend the masses! ... Being naked in ur toilet is probably personal enough, but coming out on the street nude and doing stuff not to other people's taste in private places is quite criminal.
Teffle  22 | 1318  
23 Nov 2010 /  #390
Still, I know that the gays that take part in the parade only represent a small minority of all gay people. In my opinion any healthy society would ban such spectacles.

Yes, but this happens in many demos. Small minority of extremists. If they break the law they should be arrested or the parade banned or whatever - complaining that this doesn't happen in the case of gay parades is churlish, because it doesn't happen with many other parades/activists etc also.

At least gay marches are highly unlikely to turn violent - many other forms of protest do though. yes, people do get arrested - but not always, even when they should be.

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