My Last Link To Poland Died - Why Leaving Poland Was My Best Decision

Dahling, your parents have to WORK?! How common ;)

Mom is a homemaker and dad works (at his own businesss) - just like a family should be. Atleast they don't have to worry about being stuffed in a nursing home or some cheap crumby apartment thats what's common sadly

That is the dumbest comparison I have seen here.

Like a zoo, Washington DC is an African jungle. Duh.

My apologies to jungles.


I really enjoyed reading your posts. Calm and very personal. It's a pity others turned your thread into a legal debate.

My situation was exactly opposite and similar at the same time. When I decided to leave in 1966, I didn't have a gf or a wife to join me. In fact, I deliberately avoided being committed emotionally. Leaving Poland alone in those days was tough enough.

When I came to Chicago, I decided that under no conditions would I marry a person who was not already in the US. Importing a wife always runs the risk that she would be marrying America not me.

Your posts show that you are 100 percent committed to your new life. I am proud of you because this is how all immigrats should be. I didn't come to the US to add to the "Polish community". Standing on two boats at once can be very painful. Many I met were neither here nor there, wondering and longing. I am here and wondering no more.

Good luck.

Nice to read your story. I came to New Zealand for my boyfriend who is now my husband.

I read a lot about New Zealand after I met him online. I loved him a lot, but I also had a wish to leave Poland when I was a teenager. I don't like the way my town was dominated by old and arrogant men who have very closed view on life.

I can start but will never be able to finish. Just read through this thread and you will find exactly what I mean. They are greedy, and have very low self esteem. They would kill to go to USA, UK, Australia or New Zealand and then when also make poor comments about the lifestyle and social structure of those countries ~ as if Poles got it better, as if they have any right to do so. They've created a patriarchal, homophobic, xenophobic system which breeds in a depressed version of Europe in perhaps the 30s.

Its a sad country outside its big cities, and even its big cities are nothing in comparison to a small town in New Zealand. The society, community and people, the rich culture and food and drinks, the space for love and freedom - its all missing.

I came here only to say to myself and my mum a "Goodbye" ... nothing else. As I can't find her again. I feel sad for her, and I remember my childhood in Poland. However, if time was rolled back andI had another opportunity to make a decision, I would always make the same decision I made then.

By the way, Polish women will always have a better life with a non-Polish man. Thats for sure.

You sound properly deluded....and where did you live in Poland in sum slums? Oborniki Dolne outskirts? I believe that now embraced by very progressive , liberating, fully respecting women muslim culture from Bangladesh you fully fulfilled your dreams.

Why do you live in the UK then? Please come back and live in Poland in your great Christian land.

My husband's ethnicity is Bangladesh but he is a New Zealander, and so are my children. Unlike a backward and uncivilised country where I unfortunately took birth, New Zealand is a truly secular country with respect to all its ethnicities.

You are so uncivilised that your little brain would remain stuck in muslim and hindu and christian and won't be able to fathom that general people can still enjoy a glass of wine, eat bacon and go to the beach for a swim and have less to go with an imaginary thing like religion which you are so obsessed about and obviously intelligent people have long stopped being obsessed behind.

You should spare the UK. No wonder they wanted brexit.

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And now a visualization of this meeting of the.... minds

And what is your point? different law in Poland and England in relation to crossing roads so what? The same as different laws in USA and UK.

We know very well that in UK you can do what you want like raping British girls for years because police, social services were too busy to cover it. Stabbing on daily basis in London because police is too frightened to stop and search certain minority....Invading someone private land with caravans and dump rubbish there including antisocial behaviour as they 'can'.,

UK so petrified to upset certain groups that they can do what they want.....Is it this wonderful British freedom????

Poles get deported in their dozens from New Zealand, and they cannot find jobs. This is "THE" truth. My husband got a Polish man his first job as an electrician and helped settle his family. I tried to help another family but well, they got deported as the man in that unit went towards corruption.

Yet Indian men in the UK are so successful and at all the positions of power, while the Poles are rejected from society and it are famously "unwanted" and have earned nothing but shame. We are one of the primary reasons for the UK wanting brexit.

How can anyone blame them. Look at the Poles already living in the UK. They hate the UK and its lifestyle and culture and diversity. If you hate UK so much then why don't you leave and go back to where you came from?

And where did I mention anywhere that I am religious? I just find putting off reading your immature, stupid posts full off hate to Poland - just one generalisation of country of 40 million people.

if you are real it is clearly something wrong with you and I would suggest some psychological treatment.

why would this be a concern of yours in NZ?

Why did you assume my husband was a muslim because he has Bangladeshi ancestry? Shows that you associate religion with ethnicity, so you are religious in that sense. Maybe not practicing ... but surely religious.

I am quite real and why should I need psychological treatment? Because I am not Politically Correct and speak my mind? Say things that are true and "on the ground" reality and fact.

The proof is you being in UK and me in New Zealand. You just want to live in a fake world and I know what I am talking about.

Grow up. We all know the truth.


None of my concern, but it was on a context with my discussion with 10iwonka10

Its a simple error to make - Bangladesh was created as a muslim state and non muslims left to live in India.

Never did I visit, but all I know that it was a part of Pakistan and then they wanted to be secular and so they separated. Most muslims are good people and not extreme, although I don't come across many in New Zealand.

And, apparently, not even relevant to my post. Good luck.

no, that was Pakistan.

and 'rich mazur' no it is not a 'dumb' comparison, it is a perfectly reasonable fact to point out to a septic who is spouting nonsense about the UK.

Bangladesh started as part of Pakistan in 1947 - was called East Pakistan until 1970 when they had an extremely violent fall out with West Pakistan.

That was my point exactly. Dick kept comparing how the law would be different in the USA, and so there was something 'wrong' with the law in the UK, because it wasn't the same as the USA. He claimed Poland was 'more free' than the 'big brother' UK. So I made a few comparisons of how laws and freedoms differ.

Having to show your documents and identity on demand to a person in a state uniform is quite 'big brother'. But in the UK you can politely refuse, and ID cards do not exist - you do not have to carry identification with you. In Poland you are required by law to have an ID card and, correct me if I'm wrong, show it to a police officer whenever she/he demands it. The freedom to be anonymous and not have to identify yourself to the state on demand is quite a significant difference in freedoms.

Oh now I see where you are coming from, there used to be a term that we used back in the seventies to describe someone such as yourself, but it is not pc to use it today, and certainly not on this forum.

You really have been enriched by your partner and new life, as for being rejected I suffered terribly in Britain, they just would not keep stuffing wads of money into my hands, in the end I gave up at 50 and retired to Poland, at least now they will stop chasing me.

Yeah things are really bad for Poles in the UK and Poland, you best stay in NZ, Just think when you retire you will be able to live as royalty back in Bangladesh., oh and I hope the forty year old itch you described does not befall you.

That isn't true. I can't think of any Indian men in positions of national power in the UK. There are some MPs, but nobody in the upper echelons. Though the Mayor of London and the Home Secretary are of Pakistani descent.

Poles largely have a good reputation in the UK, as a group. People have more prejudice against (or concern about) Romanians. The issue for most people voting for Brexit was the rapid scale of immigration and a perception that it was not controlled. To be honest, the vast majority of British cannot tell the difference between Polish, Lithuanian, Romanian or Czech - they assume that it's all 'Polish'.

how are Polish people 'rejected from society' in the UK exactly?

And who are these Indian men in positions of power?

Codewords for socially marxist.


They're there for the money plain and simple. They make money and.move back to poland. In fact poles are moving back home in record numbers. Many poles even use british benefits to supplement their retirements. My hat goes off to them. I look at it as reparations for their betrayal in not honoring the mutual defense treaty during ww2.


You're lucky, the more muslims you run into the higher chances of becoming culturally enriched with a truck, knife or bomb

@CasualObserver
Atleast poland doesnt have a thought crime division of its police force monitoring people for anti migrant comments. No, instead the msz makes videos showing how they were right all along for not taking in turd world migrants and refusing the quotas. If a british guy created that same video hed likely be prosecuted, fined and even jailed. If you dislike polands society and laws so much why don't you go back to the uk?

So you clearly show that your respect for freedom of speech is very superficial and lasts as long as someone says what you like. Why am I not surprised that your views are not actually supported by true morals and beliefs

I love Poland and I just object to you making this stupid claims about freedom of speech

Did you ask your kids for permission before you took that picture?

Or is it you and your partner?


You just crossed the line. You are too logical.

Being really stupid and emotional is in the Polish culture and traditions. I could go on for hours about it but I don't want to deflect from your subjects.


So your generalizations are excused. Hers are not.

Did I get it right?

Not surprising comment coming from someone who left Poland in the 60's, after being completely brainwashed and full of Soviet propaganda that was intended to keep occupied Poland and it's people in their place as subordinates to their Soviet rulers, its obvious you took it hook line and sinker.

It's no surprise then that you ran away from your family friends and country during its time of need, just like many migrants are doing today, to further your own monetary greed and ends, most likely a trait you learned from the soviets.

Many of us exiles would have grasped any opportunity to return to Poland to create as much grief as possible for the commie occupiers, but no visas for us trouble makers, in fact to get a visa to leave Poland during that time was a privilege for only for the traitors that colluded with the Soviet pigs.

Some might say you are a traitor to your own people and from the shite u write here it goes a long way to support that, maybe by bad mouthing your own kind it helps you justify your running away from the fight to fill your own pockets in the west.

Hey, my dear Polish super patriot, you can't have it both ways: brainwashed by the Soviets AND getting the f*** out of Poland to be as far away as humanly possible.

Your post is a goldmine. I will try to come back to it later and disect that roach. For now, it's exactly this kind of Polish super patriotic mental disorder - which turns logic and facts into undebatable blasphemy - that made me run from your kind.

See you later.

You are still child of Slavija, to say of Sarmatija. Let Svetovid, Sudjenica and Baba Jaga keep you safe on your trips round the globe.

Goodbye, sestro.

Rather what the majority of polish citizens like and desire - and that is rejection of.migrants from me and africa, rejection of gay marraige and preserving the instute of marraige as written in the polish constitution, denouncing those who seek to ruin polands good name and undermine what the majority of polish citizens desire and those who seek to harm polands interests.

People are free to criticize the government and many people inside and outside of Poland do - I dont have a concern about that. That's not the problem. What is a problem is when meps vote for the sanctioning of their own country to the detriment of all poles including their supporters, making fun of the country's culture, traditions, society, etc. And in general creating hostility against poles and poland

Roseanne: this is how free speech dies

youtu.be/-B7LZUoEF-k

In the U.S. its companies barring thinfs rhey dont like which as a business theyre allowed to do. But if its a bakery refusing to bake a cake for a gay couple because the owner doesnt support such things the left goes crazy. In the UK though irs the government, not corporations silencing free speech, that's what's scary.

The fact that a person cant report on a court and cite public information bc the government thinks that it will influence jurors is just ridiculous. Whether you support Tommy Robinson or not (I personally don't like him because he's a zionist) doesnt matter. What matters is the UK has become a state with thought police where people are prosecuted merely for citing public information, statistics, etc. Saying that theres a dozen Pakistanis going through a trial for allegedly grooming children to be raped, which is what the charges are which anyone can access as it is public info, is not going to influence is a jury.

You do realise he was jailed for contempt of court, right? He even pled guilty, so he clearly knew that he was in the wrong. He could have pled not guilty and let to go to trial by his peers, but clearly he didn't feel too confident about it.

Same laws exist in the US - law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/401

He basically had no choice but to plead as he didnt even have time to thoroughly think about the case and went off a lawyers recommendation, not even his own lawyer but one the state provided who likely told him.to plead guilty so he could get a light sentence as is very common in criminal proceedings. Although that bit him in the ass. The simple fact that he was arrested, tried, sentenced and hauked off to.jail all within 6 hours alone is a miscarraige of justice

And contempt of court is way different in the U.S..No one in the us would be ever be charged with contempt for citing public information and reporting in front of a court house. Even with the recent Weinstein case there was a bunch of people recording and holding up metoo signs or whatever. Yet if they did the same in the UK theyd be prosecuted under one of.the many thought crimes. The UK has even recently started using 'national security' as a pretext to clamp down on media freedom and freedom of speech.

Also the reason the cuck cops arrested him accoeding to the video was for 'disturbing the peace' not contempt. The charges that the police cited are different than what he was formally charged with in court. They arrested him because apparently standing on a public sidewalk and citing public information with 1 cameraman and 1 other person (3 people.total) is disturbing the peace.... id understand if he was shouting expletives through a bullhorn, or if he was leading a hundred people in some chant, or throwing stuff etc then fine hes disturbing the peace. But he was not he was live streaming with 2 peoole and citing public figured. In fact, there were more cops than people with Tommy.

Isis fighters return to the UK by the hundreds. Yet only like 50 were prosecuted. The rest are free to continue living on benefits and marching with sharia4uk signs and chant uk go to hell (now thats disturbing the peace... Yet theyre never charged) while finding their next victims for cultural enrichment..

Again- if you support freedom of speech than ppl should be able to say that Bible was written by drunks and Poland was responsible for this or that. Whether you agree with those statements or not. That's the freedom of speech. If you take ppl to court for that then sorry, but there is not much freedom in that.

I know that you'll deflect again with something along the lines 'but migrant...' but sadly that doesn't change your double standards or rather the lack of any integrity.