Worked for a restaurant in Poland and the owner refused to pay me.

Acey, not to worry. Write me on the private, give me the name of the restaurant and the owner's name. I'll phone him, talk to him and try to make him pay you your alleged dough. I'm a newspaper hack by the way.

Okay?

:)

The guy is again trying to sell his/her fairy tales, but knows very little about Poland, and only gets more and more excited with every word he/she writes here. :):):):) I have been working 20 years in Poland and know only one guy who had problems with payment but when he threatened with informing Labour Office, they paid him, finally.

I lost more money in the USA for 2 years than in Poland for 20 years, that`s the truth.

Trying to avoid taxes and Social Security by illegal employment is a crime in Poland.

Why do you bother posting about things you know nothing about?

Let;s see if the guy "Acey" really exists along with his restaurant and the alleged dishonest Polish owner.

Or maybe "Acey" is really Harry, or Depuladomphine, or "Snubieski"? Those individuals seem to be the first ones to respond to such obvious trollie BS.

Harry, is it perchance you who wrote, among others, "Acey's" post in order to scare away those young people from e.g. America or Israel who want to come to Poland and work there?

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That is hugely unlikely: journalists need to able to read and you appear to not be able to read (if you could read, you'd see that the name and location of the place have already been posted in this thread)

Really? I think it is quite the opposite. :):):):)


Why do you bother to post this?

Isn`t it what delph said twice to that troll Warszawet who loves telling tall stories about Poland?

I agreed with delph, that`s all.

WTF do you want?

So, Harry, next time if you need to go to the toilet, take your laptop or whatever you use there so that you don`t get disengaged from discussions.

Is that why you used the word 'guy' to refer to a female poster?

All it takes here in the US is one phone call to the local office of US department of labor and within days (!) the crooked employer comes running with the money offerings in his shaking hands. I've done it for my boyfriend couple of years ago and was astounded at the speed of the response and fear instilled in the crooked boss.

I hope what Warszawette is saying is not true.

Harry, come on, stop playing a naive a child. :):):):) I have been on the forums only since 2005 but I have seen enough tricks that people play. Haven`t you?

Warszawet can be a male or a female. Did you meet him/her in person? Sorry, only after meeting the guy you can be sure what gender he/she is.

Besides, one more thing. You posted a lengthy quote about work permits but it wasn`t the proper one.

Here is the right one:

malopolska.uw.gov.pl/default.aspx?page=Work_permit_for_foreigner_work_in_Poland

Obligation to have a work permit does not apply to a foreigner who:

has a residence permit for a fixed period in the Republic of Poland, granted in relation to the circumstance referred to in Art. 53 Item 1 Point 10, 11, 13 and 15-18 of the Foreigners Act of 13 June 2003,

is a spouse of a Polish citizen or a foreigner referred to in Point 1 and Item 1 Point 1-6, who has a residence permit for a fixed period for the territory of the Republic of Poland, granted in relation to contracting a marriage,


Is it what psychologists call self-projection? :):):):)


I am sure he/she will soon get back here but under a new nick. :):):):):):)

That's an absolute joke - while death is understandable, any treaty rights should be immediately cancelled upon divorce!


It's not. Usually it requires a strong word and a little knowledge of law, that's all.

But I mean - if you willingly agree to tax evasion measures, you should expect to be screwed.

I see our friend is drinking again.

Thanks for that link, it completely supports what I posted:

Not exactly. :):):):)

Really? So to you this:


is not the same as this:

Yes, it is. :):):):)

So what?

The problem is that both are inadequate in that troll`s situation!!! :):):):)

Mine is better because it is more to the point. :):):)

How about we proceed with two assumptions: (1) he did not have a work permit - even then employer has no right to use labor without compensation, right? and (2) he does have a right to work, in which case, anyone ever been in a similar situation? how hard is to get his pay?

jesus! wtf is wrong with you people, the guy ripped me off! its my problem, just looking for for some guidance.

Not much point involving the police if part of the money was secretly "cash in hand"; it's a bit like calling the cops because someone broke into your house and stole that huge bag of Ecstasy pills you bought last week :)

This is nothing new in Poland, though. Only a few weeks ago, I overheard a couple of girls who had boarded a tram outside the Uniwersytet Pedagogiczny in Kraków.

One mentioned to the other that she had just packed in her job.

The other girl was shocked: "How are you going to pay your way through university now, then?".

The first girl replied: "I was supposed to get paid about 350 PLN this week, but they only paid me 175 PLN. When I went to the boss to discuss my contracted hours, he replied 'What contract?' So I told him to stick his job".

Well Acey, I hope you get the money you are owed but it might not be possible. Employers can rip off their employees quite easily unless there is a contract of some kind. That's just the way reality works. Good luck and careful negotiating future employment.

No work permit is an offence for both employer and employee.


He's got a right to what's in the contract. Additional payments under the table - well - same law everywhere.

ok, I guess we don't know what is he fighting for, the legit money covered in the contract, or the extras. If it is for the legit moeny, does he need to hire a lawyer? Again, in US, labor department takes the side of the employee, so if you only want to recover money due to you, you don't need to hire your own lawyer.

The extras have to be in the contract or he will never see them.

Stop stuttering!


Yes, it is a problem that probably an innocent guy comes to seek advice but sounds like another troll, especially that old trolls instantly jump at the prey and tell tall stories about Poland. :):):):):):)

pawian, you're cracking up. Or at the very least, lowering your standards.

You mean that if you have a contract with a Polish employer he may not pay you your wages? - If so, yes, it is possible, but, contrary to what for example NorthMincPole alleges, THIS SELDOM HAPPENS HERE. If you've got a contract they'll pay you. If they try to rip you off, you go the the Sąd Pracy and they'll get hard on the creep's a$$.

By the way, being ripped off by an employer is possible everywhere, re: the massive fraud of this kind in UK and Holland involving Polish employees. I can - and will - write about numerous cases of this kind. I mean REAL cases, not Harry-like ones.

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You can write about it, but we've read about it before in the British media. They even dared to highlight how Poles were scamming Poles with offers of fake jobs.

If you want to write about something newsworthy, write about how some language schools in Poland completely exploit their teachers. I could even pass a few contacts on to you - people who have flown from America to Poland for jobs, only to discover that the job doesn't exist.

The only way to really scam someone is to charge them a fee to find out about the fake job. Otherwise, what's the point?

or work without being paid (it happened to me).

Work without being paid? Now, that's a real scam. I have had that happen to me here by neighbors. People can be jerks when it comes to paying others for their work. Everyone would be much happier if no one ever wanted to be compensated for their time and effort. Seems to be the pervasive attitude throughout the world.

Are you saying, you didn't get paid in the US? Never happened to me (not saying, it's impossible though).

It was a neighbor in her house running a home secretarial business but it was a legitimate job with an application and everything and taxes being withheld. I got a paycheck every two weeks. It was fine for a while, then there were excuses made that the money wasn't there to pay me. They told me to wait a few days so I did and they did pay me late. It got to the point where they were going longer without paying, so that the next paycheck was already due and their plan was to skip one paycheck so I only got paid once a month instead of twice. They wouldn't be able to catch up and expected I wouldn't ask them to because they were neighbors and everything and I worked the overnight shift which is slower than the ones during the day. So I told them I would call the labor board and quit. You never want to tell a neighbor something like that! Never work for neighbors.