I have pure Polish heritage and am currently enrolled at a top all women's college in the United States. I'm majoring in Russian Literature and am currently studying abroad at St. Petersburg State University. However, I don't know Polish and that's disheartening to my very Polish grandmother in particular, and my family in general. I also think that because I'll probably be going to graduate school for Slavic Literature (I'm a second semester junior) that I should learn Polish for the benefit of my academic career. So I want to learn Polish a lot!
However, my college in the U.S. does not offer Polish language, and I do not have room in my schedule at St. Petersburg to learn Polish.
So what I'm wondering is: 1. How hard was it for any native English speakers to learn Polish? 2. What did you use to learn Polish? (Assuming that you did not learn to speak Polish from your family)
I would very much like to learn Polish during this year, and become an advanced speaker by the end of this year. :)
2. Polish in 4 Weeks. Ha!!! Hurra Po Polsku. Help from friends.
I had 2 years of Latin in high school, majored in French at my university, studied Italian for a year at the same place, picked up some Spanish while living in San Diego, and learned decent Japanese (not the characters though, except for the phonetic alfabet) while there in high school. Polish is by far the most difficult language I've ever tried to learn.
I don't think you'll get from square one to advanced in a year, but any progress you make will make both you and your grandmother proud. Good luck!
I've once met american girl in Poland that lived there for a year and already spoke decent polish. Maybe she had talent for learning languages, who knows!
Somebody’s Individual predispositions, talent, and experience in learning foreign languages as an adult.
How good somebody’s Polish teacher is or if a learner have a good learning method. (Please notice that buying a course book or a CD cannot be considered as a method (-:)
Level of your superstition and prejudices in reference to the Polish Language. Sometimes this factor makes learning Polish just impossible.
Learning any foreign language is hard work. You have to take it under consideration. If somebody says that Polish is not to learn ask her or him how many other foreign languages she or he had learnt as an adult.
What! Do you really think that? I've never heard an estimation anywhere near that high for any other language in the world before. I mean it only took two years to become completely fluent in Russian, which has completely different alphabet and grammar rules from English...
Seriously 6 years? Whaaaaat.
Thank you everyone else for your answers! I find the variance very interesting and helpful. :)
Nah, if you know Russian well you will learn it very fast, as both are quite similar both for grammar and lexicon. All those mysterious word changes (D -> D-, T -> Ć, R -> RZ,...) will make sense in view of the palatalizing rules of Russian, as when adding -Е in the locative case.
I'd suggest to use resources in Russian for Russians, as they will probably bring out well the differences between the two languages.
It is easier than russian in my opinion because of the more familiar latin alphabet.It is a bit more difficult than czech though I think because of the endings.
1. For me it has been quite hard to learn Polish, especially ortography, it's just too complicated! Why do they use two "u"s? :-) I've started to learn Polish about 5 years ago, but I'm not at a course all the time. I have had many breaks in my education, but last year's intensive course in Cracow and travelling around Poland helped me to improve my Polish.
2. At first, I used the Internet, but I wasn't motivated enough, and the tutoring via skype was hopeless - too many people pretended to be teachers of Polish, but in fact they were teenagers who wanted my money...
I participated in a Polish course in Glossa School in Cracow, you can check their offer here glossa.pl; we used a very good book, written by Glossa's teachers "Polski Krok Po Kroku", I still continue to learn from this book and I still have contact with many people from Cracow, including Glossa's teachers or interns.
Good luck with Polish! Try not to be discouraged by grammar or ortography :-)
especially ortography, it's just too complicated! Why do they use two "u"s?
I'd hate Polish to use only U or only Ż and dispense with Ó and RZ. Or even, more drastically, to write devoiced consonants as such: 'tesz' for też, 'pszepraszam', 'buk' for buk, Bóg and Bug.
I do actually like the Polish ortography - I personally prefer it to Czech or Croat, for example. Not to talk about those ugly Cyrillizations of a language which doesn't suit (anymore) to Cyrillic.
I regret having never been exposed to my Polish family so that I could learn the customs and the language. I always thought it would be so good to be bi-lingual - but I guess at age 67 it's a bit much to take on - especially if I will never have the opportunity to use the language! My Polish family spoke Polish in the home, but English with an accent in public.
No way. Our language is 100 times more difficult to crack than enigma. It is our last resort, our home and castle and everyone who enters it may depart his life. It is frightfully, awfully hard. God forbid, you even think about it!
Hi blargh, as a native Russian speaker i can only support Leopejo's idea to try finding access to Polish through Russian, if you speak it well. BUT: 1) beware of false friends, there are not just a few of them! 2) beware of the differences in grammar and pronounciation, especially stressing words correctly. Although not that tricky, they have to be kept in mind all the time. Otherwise your Polish will just remain similar to Russian or may resemble Ukrainian to a Pole. 4) our teacher said that some foreign students had come to learning Polish and persisted in it through the Polish music, so probably it could help you, too? 5) personally i enjoy reading the Polish literature, both translated and in the original. It's difficult in the beginning, though; hence, you could probably start by reading short news (like wiadomosci.pl)
I wish you luck whatever method you prefer! Zycze cie sukcesu! Udachi!
As with learning any inflected language, Polish will present the learner with numerous bramble patches and thorny routes, none of which however are insurmountable, believe me-:) All that's needed is time, laser focus and dedication. I began learning at the ripe "old" age of 31 and some twenty years a marriage and family later, am still improving my skills. Sure, in the beginning, it DOES indeed seem like a Sysephusian labor of rolling the proverbial boulder up a steep hill, but to be sure, in time, even the irregularities of counting can be learned, perhaps not easily, but eventually!!
Don't though make tactical mistake I made of learning two Slavic languages, Polish and Russian, simultaneously. In the end, while my Polish prospered, my Russian suffered.
Freakin difficult for me. Made two grammatical errors at the Polish church today. My errors were pointed out & corrected. It's just a bit frustrating at times.
However, I don't know Polish and that's disheartening to my very Polish grandmother
Yes, I am not surprised. I would be pretty damn disheartened to that you chose Russian over Polish. Have you ever been to Poland and Russia? If the answer is no on both counts, and you do get the chance to visit the aforementioned countries you will realise your mistake.
it is very hard. have had no experiences with learning a language before. i taught myself the language because my polish boyfriend didnt want to learn english. consequently had to learn polish. he has now gone back to poland, but after he went i had polish neighbours move in next door. as i spend lots of time talking to them my polish has improved. have been speaking it for maybe 18 months now, but the grammar is horrendous! why why why do the endings of words constantly change? totally baffling but wont give up now. am very stubborn. for example....ja lubie polski jemzyk... ale nie lubie polskiego jemzyka. totally nuts but am addicted to learning more now. would be grateful for any advice
ja lubie polski jemzyk... ale nie lubie polskiego jemzyka. totally nuts but am addicted to learning more now. would be grateful for any advice
you are doing pretty well given the fact that you are learning on your own actually - many expats who live in Poland a couple years already are not at that level
why why why do the endings of words constantly change?
I'm glad I studied Latin in high school. I understand declensions of nouns. Now the hard part is learning to use them in Polish. Google one beer, two beers, five beers. And which preposition takes which case. Keep trying. It'll be as clear as mud in, oh, maybe 20 years. :)
20 years! my tongue will have fallen out by then by trying to pronounce totally unpronouceable words! and i thought przyjaciel was hard to pronounce when i started....
