UK, Ireland / Has racism towards Polish migrants increased in the UK since Brexit? [22]

Of course there are lots educated people in Africa and some of them emigrated to USA, UK but saying that only educated people emigrated it is a bit of overstatement. Most emigrants -in general - are just a mixture some more educated, some less ....some more eager to work some less...

UK, Ireland / Has racism towards Polish migrants increased in the UK since Brexit? [22]

@rokesby

I am not sure what is the source of these 'facts'? - I understand African emigrants are all princes and millionaires ...no one live in council house, no one claims child benefit, unemployment benefits?????

Uganda, Kenya, Nigeria, Egypt - all highly educated emigrants...? - Where do you have this data from?

News / EU confirms it will take action against Poland over court reforms [554]


I guess it is Andrzej Mleczko :-)

Life / Moving to Krakow next year, 5000 zloty net. [48]


He is obsessed with savings.
I am not sure what is the difference between expat and emigrant ? I am probably in the second group but most expats/emigrants want to have relatively decent life and unless they want to settle for longer in foreign land and buy house/flat ( save for deposit) I don't think they are so obsessed with savings. Some of them have probably already houses in their native countries .....

Life / Moving to Krakow next year, 5000 zloty net. [48]

@Maciek_G

That is what I thought....I think DomonicB has some strong 'economic anti polish' conviction. I don't quite understand it. I don't think that expats can save so much because they have to live somewhere (rent house/flat) and it takes big chunk of income. Not different from someone living in UK, France, Germany who moved out from parents house and has to rent.

Life / Moving to Krakow next year, 5000 zloty net. [48]

@Nojas

I think government had some legislation to reduce it and pollution is not the same everywhere. Centre is the worst - outskirts especially south of Krakow is not so bad

Life / Moving to Krakow next year, 5000 zloty net. [48]

@rozumiemnic

And because there are only few of them in Poland they are still quite exotic so they can choose how to be spoilt :-).

Life / Moving to Krakow next year, 5000 zloty net. [48]

@DominicB

You are right it is not much - it is just normal salary to survive. Sometimes choice depends on fact how is job market in your own country ( on special field)plus language barrier. To be honest saving potential... it is very vague subject- people lead very different lifestyles so saving potential depends on it too. I think lots ( families or even single people) on overage salaries don't save anything even they live in their own countries in west Europe now.

I have been living and working in UK for 15 but from my observation prices are going up in Poland and they will be as minimum wage goes up too but also salaries in bigger cities are catching up with west Europe...slowly but they are catching up.Especially in Krakow there are lots back offices are created for big Companies.

Looking how much properties are built and sold in Krakow every year

ft.com/content/1df9e49c-a153-11e4-8d19-00144feab7de

looking at some of these prices...

otodom.pl/oferta/wyjatkowy-apartament-na-ostatnim-pietrze-ID3lYu0.html#gallery
otodom.pl/oferta/mieszkanie-256-m-krakow-ID3nGiv.html#gallery

It appears to me that earning potential is growing in Krakow.

Life / Moving to Krakow next year, 5000 zloty net. [48]

@DominicB

It is lots of theoretical information. For me is more understandable to compare bare numbers.

>>>Very few workers from the richer countries of western Europe, for example, would even consider working in Poland. The downgrade in savings potential would be staggering>>>

They do but mainly for high paid managerial position. No one will move for less paid job and with huge language barrier...

I live in UK co I can only compare these 2 countries average salary in UK is around 26-27 K per year so it is around 8 000 zl. Without going into details basic food is in similar prices but restaurants, services, rents, properties...it .is much more expensive in UK. So I think by earning 8000 in UK and 5000 in Poland you can have relatively similar lifestyle. Unfortunately it is very general assumption as rent/property prices in Cambridge/London are very different from prices in some small town in north. The same in Poland Warsaw/Krakow or ...Tarnow. Plus average salaries again - it can be average of 60K in London and 20K Peterborough.

Plus no offence but as for today I am not sure Portugal comparing to Poland shows so much more work opportunities.

Life / Moving to Krakow next year, 5000 zloty net. [48]


I don't think that I quite agree with your statement....It is very generalized opinion based on what exactly?

UK, Ireland / Polish career criminal gets six years for rape [43]

telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/11372442/Sex-therapy-in-prisons-does-not-stop-rapists-reoffending-warns-expert.html

UK, Ireland / Polish career criminal gets six years for rape [43]


I am very interested....what are the treatments for rapists?????????

UK, Ireland / Polish career criminal gets six years for rape [43]


Ha,ha Hary but you are not polish and you sound like completely settled in Poland?

I think 6 years is not long enough sentence....but again how much got this bloke his brother and wife for torture an killing baby P- not much so.....****** liberal courts again.

News / How will BREXIT affect the immigrants in UK and Poland. [1114]

That is true I always remember Poland when I left. Even I visit few times a year as we have flat in Krakow but visiting is different to living and working there.

On positive side -at every visit I see difference and it is rather good one.I think we are much more open now. Polish visit different countries in Europe ( for work, holidays) Foreign companies invest in Poland. There is this perception that we never smile and look gloomy. I think it changed too....people on the street look much more relaxed and smile more.

News / How will BREXIT affect the immigrants in UK and Poland. [1114]

@kaprys


I know few who returned but there are different reasons for it. These were couples with small children and they just decided that they want to bring them up in Poland. I think it depends from which part of Poland someone comes from...In Krakow there are quite a few good jobs so people come back.

softwaremind.com/blog/krakow_top_outsourcing_destination

News / How will BREXIT affect the immigrants in UK and Poland. [1114]


That is where UK is very good....attract skilled workers from other countries so they don't have to cover costs of their education.Bit cynical and can backfire when these skilled workers start heading home after Brexit.

News / How will BREXIT affect the immigrants in UK and Poland. [1114]


That is not what I said....Can you imagine situation like this in Poland- Organised groups of Asians rape, exploit young girls from broken ,dysfunctional homes.

Some people ( including these girls) try to notify authorities about it but they are dismissed as Police/Social Services don't want to get involved and accused of being racists. So it was going for years...

Criminals are everywhere but it is Police job to catch and punish them and they did not do it what I think is SHAMEFUL.

News / How will BREXIT affect the immigrants in UK and Poland. [1114]

@cms
I agree with you in all points except migrants. uncontrolled-undocumented migration is dangerous. If you can't identify them you can't punish them.....scary.

Mafketis@

Rotheram is not good example- lots of these rapists were born in UK- but political correctness and a bit British 'culture' that if you brush problem under the carpet it does not exist caused it.

They are criminals but Police,local authorities did nothing to resolve it which I find disgusting!.

Language / What is the difference between jeść and jadać? [10]

I think:

jesc- to eat - it is just standard infinitive

jadac- to eat ( from time to time )

Life / Boring Life after work in Poland (Bydgoszcz) [29]


Some wise proverb says that intelligent people are never bored.......

Love / Are Polish Women cold and aloof? [249]

@Maritime Guy

They are not cold and aloof...maybe just more demure and reserved. No fake smiles...hi guys !!!.

Food / Polish sausage preparation [4]


I guess it is already cooked (smoked). To make it warm and tastier you can cut it along in halves and fry with onion.

Po polsku / Amerykańskie chamstwo? [133]

@kaprys

Bo wbrew pozorom ludzie nie lubia za duzo 'innosci' jest pewna doza ktora sie akceptuje ( nie taka sama dla kazdego) po przekroczeniu ktorej juz tej akceptacji nie ma.

Np. wielokulturowosc jest pozytywna rzecza - uczy ludzi otwartosci na inna kulture, potrawy....rowniez jest atrakcyjna dla wszelkiej masci naukowcow ,artystow.

Ale- jesli np w malej spolecznosci liczba emigrantow zaczyna dorownywac liczbie lokalnej ludnsci zaczyna sie robic nieprzyjemnie bo 'natives' czuja sie zagrozeni. Wydaje mi sie ze to jest dosc uniwersalna prawda na ktora UE zamyka oczy I I udaje ze tego nie widzi.

Po polsku / Amerykańskie chamstwo? [133]


Mysle ze to nie mozna tego tak uogolniac porownujac cale kraje.....
Duzo zalezy od wyksztalcenia, klasy spolecznej z ktorej sie pochodzi,nawet czesci kraju. Wydaje mi sie ze Ameryka jest podzielona polnoc jest zamozniejsza,bardziej 'nowoczesna' lewicowa ale I lepiej wyksztalcona poludnie moze tradycyjne ale I lekko zacofane.

W Niemczech geograficznie jest chyba odwrotnie - polnoc jest bardziej postepowa ale I troche przezarta lewicowym praniem mozgu poludnie.....moze tardycyjne ale bylam kilka lat temu w Bawarii....przyroda piekna ale bylam swiadkiem nieprzyjemnej rasistowskiej sytaucji.

Wiec tak naprawde chyba potrzebny jets gdzies zloty srodek postepowosc ale I tradycja I tolerancja innosci ktorej u nas w Polsce jednak brakuje.

UK, Ireland / Why English do not like Polish? [417]

It is bit harsh - I would say they have 'superiority complex'- even with all these understatements and sarcasm ....it is like teasing .....

News / How will BREXIT affect the immigrants in UK and Poland. [1114]


I think you must be very insecure person- all this patronising -grammar correcting attitude- makes you look just pathetic.

News / How will BREXIT affect the immigrants in UK and Poland. [1114]

@Lyzko

It all calmed down now but just after Brexit vote UK showed rather ugly xenophobic face.

News / How will BREXIT affect the immigrants in UK and Poland. [1114]


No, they are not- Why would they be for Brexit? I am lucky one as I have dual citizenship but lots of European people in UK worry about their status after Brexit

and in general feel unwanted here :-(

It mainly narrow-minded 'little Englanders'( as they call them here :-)) and retired people voted for Brexit.

News / How will BREXIT affect the immigrants in UK and Poland. [1114]


Unfortunately there is very little unity in Europe ( EU) now - irrelevant with or without UK-and cooperation is often forced and imposed on other countries by Germany .

'Tempest in a teapot'- I never heard it - It must be American version of this saying :-)

News / How will BREXIT affect the immigrants in UK and Poland. [1114]

Storm in a teacup- in anti British EU press.....10 groszy today?

Article in polish but this graph is in ridiculous scale- hagh level of manipulation

businessinsider.com.pl/gielda/waluty/kurs-funta-w-najblizszym-czasie-klopoty-polakow-z-wysp/l8qc8hc