Thurneman
3 Jan 2015
UK, Ireland / Polish Migration to the UK - A moderate speaks! [41]
I am a Scandinavian who visited north of England not long ago, I was in Derby, Nottingham and places around there. I was in a couple of towns with a high volume of immigrants and I remember a specific one.
I took the bus to this town and had some problems finding my destination street. I kept walking, noticing that I rarely met any white people, mostly pakistanis and black people. And the majority of males between 15 and 50 were staring at me, not happy faces. After 30 minutes of walking around, not finding my street, I started asking people. I asked around 8-9 different people where this street was and NONE of them spoke english. I asked a muslim, a sikh, a young girl, some man with a dog, some older men and a woman. They just looked at me and then said "no english" or didnt say anything at all.
And I thought I was the immigrant...
Finally I got help from an english man and woman with no teeth and could find my street. When it was time to go home I went to the bus. At the bus stop it was one big, arab male around 40 who spoke in his phone really loudly on the other side of the road. Then I hear him shouting "****" and something about fight, I turn around and see that he is screaming it to me, haha! I just looked at him and then he continued talking on the phone while circulating the street (which only me and him stood at) until my bus came.
Anyway, during my trip I was in towns with both a lot of poles and a lot of pakistanis and black people. I can easily say that the polish areas were no problem at all. I didnt feel threatened anywhere, they seem to have better english skills and their areas felt more clean and civilized. Lots of drinking, yes, but that was about it.. The areas with pakistanis/africans were different though and I wouldnt like to live there - and I have visited more areas than the one above and obviously more things happened. It didnt even feel like I was in England when I was in those areas, both when I saw the people and how they have treated their enviroment.
Just an objective anecdote.
I am a Scandinavian who visited north of England not long ago, I was in Derby, Nottingham and places around there. I was in a couple of towns with a high volume of immigrants and I remember a specific one.
I took the bus to this town and had some problems finding my destination street. I kept walking, noticing that I rarely met any white people, mostly pakistanis and black people. And the majority of males between 15 and 50 were staring at me, not happy faces. After 30 minutes of walking around, not finding my street, I started asking people. I asked around 8-9 different people where this street was and NONE of them spoke english. I asked a muslim, a sikh, a young girl, some man with a dog, some older men and a woman. They just looked at me and then said "no english" or didnt say anything at all.
And I thought I was the immigrant...
Finally I got help from an english man and woman with no teeth and could find my street. When it was time to go home I went to the bus. At the bus stop it was one big, arab male around 40 who spoke in his phone really loudly on the other side of the road. Then I hear him shouting "****" and something about fight, I turn around and see that he is screaming it to me, haha! I just looked at him and then he continued talking on the phone while circulating the street (which only me and him stood at) until my bus came.
Anyway, during my trip I was in towns with both a lot of poles and a lot of pakistanis and black people. I can easily say that the polish areas were no problem at all. I didnt feel threatened anywhere, they seem to have better english skills and their areas felt more clean and civilized. Lots of drinking, yes, but that was about it.. The areas with pakistanis/africans were different though and I wouldnt like to live there - and I have visited more areas than the one above and obviously more things happened. It didnt even feel like I was in England when I was in those areas, both when I saw the people and how they have treated their enviroment.
Just an objective anecdote.