Food / What's your favorite Polish beer? [870]

I agree. Note, that Lublin Brewery (Perla maker) is I probably last Polish big brewery not bought by large multinational concerns. Moreover, they introduced Perla unpasteurised (niepasteryzowana) - my best discovery this year, very refreshing. £omża unpasteurised is similar and also good. And I've finally tried Ciechan - it deserves its reputation, though its taste wouldn't probably fit most of Tyskie lovers.

Pibwl

Food / What's your favorite Polish beer? [870]

Seanus: thanks for pointing my attention at Goolman :-) I don't think I would buy this beer on my own initiative.

Also a good one is Piast, despite its Carlsberg Poland allegiance. £omża is OK- but Perła is probably the best choice on the market (I can say this after a 10-day holiday upon a lake :-)

Food / What's your favorite Polish beer? [870]


Luckily, Perlenbacher is not a Polish beer. Even Tyskie is better IMHO ;-) (and beeradvocate says: avoid)

History / Battle of Warsaw movie in production [24]


I'm not justifying quite shameful Zaolzie action, but speaking of invasions: the Czech invasion on Zaolzie in 1919 was definitely more bloody, than the Polish one in 1938 (the Polish Army invaded and the Czechoslovak forces withdrew, on "agreement" between both governments). I know you'd like to kick Poland, but maybe you should read more history.

News / Crash of Tu-154 at Smolensk-North--could it have been a bomb in the Polish plane? [233]


Right. Because as we know, pilot's errors NEVER happen. It's just impossible. Also, planes don't fall down. In case of Casa crash several years ago, it was also Russians, who put the bomb - and Polish commission was so stupid, that didn't notice evidences. Oh, I forgot - it was 2008, so probably Tusk's government concealed evidence. Yes, and the Russians also caused a crash of two aerobatics aircraft in Radom several years ago, hoping, they would fall on audience. Probably they implanted a chip to a pilot, while he was asleep, and in a critical moment, a remotely controlled electrical shock led to a crash.

I'm sorry, but I can't stand rubbish. Pilot's error is easiest to explain theory in such case - unless something contradicts it. Accidents sometimes just happen.

News / Crash of Tu-154 at Smolensk-North--could it have been a bomb in the Polish plane? [233]


Looking at wreck photos, they look quite normal for a jet passenger plane trying to land in a forest. Soviet aircraft had no thicker tin sheets, than others. I don't see it is in "drobny mak"

Anyway, bombing the plane would be as naive idea and easy to reveal, as shooting at survivors in a face of videotaping witnesses, without silencers in addition ;-)

News / Crash of Tu-154 at Smolensk-North--could it have been a bomb in the Polish plane? [233]

"could it have been a bomb?"

Really ignorant question. Definitely NO - since a bomb damage to a plane is really the easiest thing to reveal for experts. It would be impossible to cover, unless the plane is lost somewhere over the Atlantic (remember Lockerbie case?).

Food / What's your favorite Polish beer? [870]

I've browsed beeradvocate.com recently (thanks to somebody, who put the link earlier in the topic), and Perła is a good one, pretty good are £omża, Okocim Zagłoba, Okocim OK and Warka. Highly estimated there (A) are porters, but this is the kind I rarely drink, so I can't tell.

Good one was Żubr... but it was probably when it was brewed by Dojlidy, before its sale to SABMiller or whatever.

News / Poland back to reality after Sunday ? [30]


I prefer it to living in paranoia :-)


You will see he won't. It is a prime minister, who rules the country (backed by parliamentary majority of course), while a president may only obstruct things, having no real power.

News / Is it possible that Polish president was assasinated? If so then, by whom? [921]

Definite proof of Soviet/Russian plot!!

demotywatory.pl/1396900/Czyzby

(...looking for a place to plant a tree at Smolensk aerodrome)

News / Komorowski, acting president, is a shower! [51]


What documents?

News / Komorowski, acting president, is a shower! [51]

...And are you serious?? :-O

News / Is it possible that Polish president was assasinated? If so then, by whom? [921]

Yes, KGB finished off a pilot and president Kaczyński with gun shots hoping, that these stupid Polish investigators wouldn't notice bullet holes in heads?... Or maybe they used German-made ammunition to evade suspicions?... This is the stupidest thing I've heard lately :-)

News / Kaczynski to be buried at Wawel ?! [289]


Maybe Cardinal Dziwisz agreed to bury him at Wawel, expecting much increase in selling tickets to Wawel graves? ;-) If he was buried at Powązki, all the people could see the grave for free. I wonder, if the family also would have to buy tickets...

News / Kaczynski to be buried at Wawel ?! [289]

Some Poles on internet forums do :-( I repeat: it's sad, that Jarosław managed to divide Poles with his decision.

News / Kaczynski to be buried at Wawel ?! [289]

It's all the same - but you forgot Germans ;-)

News / Kaczynski to be buried at Wawel ?! [289]


So why wasn't Gabriel Narutowicz burried at Wawel?


Definitely no. He became a loved leader after his death. While he was alive, he was "loved" by no more, than 20% of Poles, while a majority thought he was an inappropriate person for this office.

Counting myself within this majority, I really admired Lech Kaczyński for his trials to improve relations with Jews, Ukrainians and Lithuanians, even against his party. Unfortunately, these were the only cases of LK going against his party's line. And I'm sad, that Jarosław Kaczyński managed to spoil mourning and divide Poles with such an idea. He must have known it would be a provocation. No one would say a bad word about LK, if Jarosław had not come with it.


Wannabe is not enough. Poniatowski is remebered for commanding Polish forces in Napoleonic Wars and dying in a battle, Sikorski is remembered for commanding Polish forces in exile during WWII and dying on that occasion, Piłsudski is remembered as a father of independence and CiC during the Polish Soviet War (although his merits for Poland could be debated). Does Kaczyński really fit there? He will be remembered as a president, who died in an aircrash.

News / Kaczynski to be buried at Wawel ?! [289]


There's the key!... A brother! Seems, that Jarosław is plotting to make a family grave!... ;->

News / Kaczynski to be buried at Wawel ?! [289]


I don't know, in what circumstances should he die, to avoid loud protests of extreme rightist "agent"-seekers... ;->

News / Kaczynski to be buried at Wawel ?! [289]


Right - knowing Jarosław, it must have been his idea. He reportedly doesn't want Lech to be buried at Powązki, because Bolesław Bierut is still there...

No president of Poland was burried at Wawel, nor even Gabriel Narutowicz, who was shot during his office. It was a place reserved for kings and commonly acknowledged national heroes, who fought for independence (Kościuszko, Józef Poniatowski, Władysław Sikorski, Piłsudski). Despite all sympathy to Maria, no person was buried there with a spouse.


It's not so true - an infamous Giertych was a successor of Endecja (ND), while Kaczyński brothers always claimed their admiration for Piłsudski.


Unfortunately. It's sad, that those, who protest against this burial place, are accused of "starting divisions among the Poles" (I think, that Cracov's president Majchrowski said that).

News / Kaczynski to be buried at Wawel ?! [289]


Last parliamentary elections showed, that most of Poles prefer liberal left to a vision of Kaczyński brothers, even if PO declares itself as rightist party as well. Note, that there was the biggest frequency of all post-1989 elections in Poland.

I wasn't a fan of Lech Kaczyński, yet I think it is sad, that we lost him this way. Now we usually see photos of smiling president, happy with his wife, and I believe, that it was true picture. It's a pity, that during his term, we usually saw him grumpy and offended.

News / Kaczynski to be buried at Wawel ?! [289]

...Neither Lenin wanted to be stuffed and shown on a Red Square...

Food / What's your favorite Polish beer? [870]


It's because they all are a variant of one standarized beer, produced by three major companies, on exactly the same production lines :-(

I used to like Palm ...but Kielce Brewery has been bought a couple of years ago by one of the Big Three breweries, and they decided to stop production of such extravagant beer. By the way, they also "stole" other beers brewed in Kielce, like Gingers or Frater, started production in some other anonymous brewery, and closed Kielce Brewery :-(

From some time, my favourite taste, different from Tyskie and company, is Perła (Pearl) of Lublin Brewery.

(edited: Palm wasn't strictly a Polish beer, for it was licence-produced, and the brewery in Kielce was Browar Belgia)


Yes, stolen from Kielce, grrr!.. :-/

News / Who will be the next President of Poland? [51]


The Poles will remember his nasty side anyway. He might get some extra points for sympathy for his brother, but he has no chance. Even Lech Kaczyński wasn't able to "warm" his image enough to get more, than some 25% of public support during his term, despite his trials. And Lech was the nice one of the two... If there had to be Kaczyński, it was the wrong one on the plane :-(

Language / Getting the wrong ending of a word - do Polish still understand? [25]

When you don't know a proper form, it's safest to use infinitives ("ja chcieć" etc ;-)

In Polish books it's usually used to express a language of African natives in colonial times... I've always wondered, how was it in original English.

News / Did you know that Polish army is the weakest in Central Europe?.. [150]


Years of studying "nowa Technika Wojskowa" and "Raport" etc military magazines ;)


Why 96?.. Maybe 120 - or 144?... :-)

These toys cost rather much...


In reality, Poland is almost non-existing player on world's defence market. Malaysia bought only several dozen of tanks. If you meant a tank contest in Peru, it was won by China. As for Iraq - Poland managed to gain a little fraction of orders for rifles and armoured cars, while US manufacturers are benefiting from destroying of Iraqi equipment by the US Army. They even sell the Iraqis used post-Soviet tanks, upgraded in USA, and don't mind to share any piece of this cake... :-(


Naturally, if you refer to avionics and radar, not to the airframe itself...


How many? Two prototypes 10 years ago? ;-)


It could: Gripen. While it's at least equally good, it's cheaper, especially in service.

News / Did you know that Polish army is the weakest in Central Europe?.. [150]

You haven't much idea about military aviation, have you? F-16 is indeed an old technology, but the aircraft are new and in newest version, with modern electronics, and therefore are better, than most of mentioned aircraft in Europe, that entered service 10-20 years ago. Especially Russian Su-27s are old examples. The only modern fighters manufactured by Russian through past 20 years were export variants of Su-27/Su-30 for India and other countries - while the Russian military budget was too poor to afford newest Su-27 variants. And a technology of Mirage 2000, F-18 Hornet and Su-27 is only marginally newer, than F-16's - compare first flight dates, all in the 1970s ;)

Having said this, I still regret, that Poland hadn't bought Gripens, which were newer, cheaper, European ...and not demanding sterile runways. In addition, their manufacturer offered fair offset proposals (contrary to Lockheed) and serious customer support - for the USA, Poland is one of dozens of F-16 customers, and definitely not too important one...

News / Did you know that Polish army is the weakest in Central Europe?.. [150]


Yes, we should have. But in that case, we would be probably listed on a "terrorists' supporting countries list", that was assembled by Bush administration those times :-(

History / Polish armored trains form I and II World War [32]


It wasn't quite true in case of World War II. Of course, post-war main battle tanks and precise jet aircraft strikes made armoured trains obsolete in full scale conflict, but in World War II they were still useful and formidable opponents. Note, that Germany had less than 10 half-improvised armoured trains in 1939, much weaker, than the Polish ones, but they evaluated the idea as useful one, and from 1941 until the end of war they operated several dozens of armoured trains, most of them newly built. The Soviet Union operated roughly counting 100 armoured trains during the war, also most of them newly built.

From among German trains, there was not one destroyed by the aircraft (while on the move, at least - one was bombed in Kovel). In case of Soviet ones, there were more destroyed by the aircraft, but still it wasn't great number.

While it is true, that probably most trains were lost being cut off from main units and surrounded (due to destroyed bridges or time needed to repair a track), a sabotage was not a great threat. The train wasn't moving fast, so in case of derailment or impact mines, only a front flatcar was derailed or damaged. Remote mines were used by partisans rather, than regular troops - but they would have to know, that the armoured train would ride that way, and when (it's much easier to blow up a regular train). All in all, it would probably be an occupied area, and the damaged train could be recovered.

History / Polish armored trains form I and II World War [32]

Naturally, I don't mean, that armoured trains were invincible - but it was really not easy to fight them, especially for infantry. A battery of machine guns in a train discouraged from raising a head.

Anti-tank guns were best option, but they were not always available, especially in forests - and not all hits could stop the train anyway.
Even a Tiger company had some difficulty with a Soviet train "Moskovski metropoliten" armed with 76 mm guns, at Kursk battle.