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Ogorki   
16 Mar 2014
Food / The first cheese was made in Poland? [8]

You want to claim that the Neanderthals were Polish, too? ;)

...before Poland - this land was nothing but land - apparently inhabited by "cheese making" humans. There is nothing to suggest that these "cheese making" humans moved away - but remained on this land - so therefore technically they are Polish - as this land is now Poland - and has been nothing else previously. No other earlier evidence of "cheese making" humans has been found so therefore - they are assumed as "first" ;)
Ogorki   
25 Feb 2012
Genealogy / Being ashamed of Polish ancestry? [156]

Americans and English are quite arrogant (especially English) they go to foreign countries and expect the foreigners to speak English - and make them feel small. Subconciously - I think this kind of behaviour is due to envy - because Poland has rich culture - honourable military history (just look it up) integrity and soul:-

Home
Where the fields are green
The woods are clean
My soul serene

Poland was betrayed and sold off after WW2 after contributing so much (including Enigma code) Under Communism for 45 years it has become poor and naturally people want to leave. It does not mean they are not proud of their country. It's just basic survival. I have met many American/Pole and English/Poles visiting Poland who are very proud. Some want to live there. It's mainly the German population of America that initiated/spread Polish jokes because they lost the war and blame the Poles. Most Americans naturally assume America is the only place to be/think about and do not think of their roots. Some do not know where some countries are. Poles that go to America for good are usually young or stupid or both. They soon realise that America is 'Not all that' and get depressed. Same in UK. The grass is not always greener. I know many Poles who returned to Poland and are getting better pay and more importantly - better quality of life. This does not mean having lots of money. Money is not everything. Communism in Poland was designed to brain wash the population - subtly and slowly. To make them alcoholics. To make them ashamed.

People who are now under the age of 30 - their children will be the first 'clean' generation. The first generation who will be independent, inspired and mentally free of the current brain washed mentallity.
Ogorki   
7 Sep 2011
Life / The Blame Game (Have you ever noticed that a Polish person is never wrong!?) [205]

Enjoy it while it lasts.

George Friedman knows something you don't

you won't be quite so pewny siebie when it happens, trust me on this ;)

Yes - I know that - which is why I was dreading Poland adopting "Western Ideas"

It's all very well being smug about Poland's "success", but those EU subsidies have made a huge difference

I was not being smug - I was being ironic. There is a difference. Maybe you are just jealous?

Those EU subsidies helped to pull Poland out of 60 years of dark ages after she was sold off to the soviets in 1945.
Those EU subsidies merely got Poland a decent foothold - to BEGIN playing catch up with the west.

On receiving the parking ticket I went to the local "straz" station, explained what had happened to the officer who issued the ticket and he agreed that there was a lack of signage, no parking bays are marked out and the fact was that many tickets were issued there because of this. He "tore" the ticket up. This has happened twice now. A waste of everybodies time.

Another example of Poland adopting "Western Idea". Poland has learned from the west that parking tickets - right or wrong - are a great way of raising money. The parking wardens are above the law/make it up to suit themselves and there is nothing you can do about it. Just like here in the UK. I could tell you some spectacular parking ticket stories from London - where I've been at MP's front doors complaining about outrageous fines - and they agree they are outrageous but what can you do? It's a Mafia - and now it's in Poland. 10 years ago you could park anywhere - the FAK you wanted - and not wardens. Poland will be just like the UK soon. I'm surprised you have not picked that up yet...
Ogorki   
4 Sep 2011
Life / The Blame Game (Have you ever noticed that a Polish person is never wrong!?) [205]

it will always be a backward country.

Polish growth last year 4.5%
UK growth 0.01%

LOL

I thought that Poland would evolve, change rapidly to absorb, Western ideas.

...what...you mean decadence, gang warfare, political correctness madness, health and freaking safety,
getting fat on junk food, rat race, selfishness, greed, no social cohesion, polution, low quality of life, honourless,
over industrialation, over populated etc. But don't worry - it's getting there. The fooking hoodies have arrived! - gilrs
are getting fat and starting to behave like tramps in the street on weekends, the boys are getting cocky etc Poland
has lost it's innocense.

the (communistic) authourities are still in place

...there you go.

During the Warsaw uprising in 1944 - the Poles decided to fight for freedom and what they THOUGHT was the right thing to do.
Because of that decision - 250,000 civilan men, women and chidren were butchered with no mercy.

People over the world later said that they were WRONG to do that.

Right or wrong - FOOK you.

From the Warsaw Voice Magazine:- you must be missing a trick

Poles the Happiest Nation in Europe: Report
Polish people are more satisfied with life than the citizens of any other European country, according to a survey by the European Bank for Reconstruction and Development.

The survey covered 39,000 households in 34 countries from Britain and France to Albania and Ukraine. It found that in Poland, the effects of the recent financial crises were felt by less than a third of respondents. In other postcommunist countries, the figure averaged 70 percent.

Fifty-four percent of Polish respondents said they were confident their children would enjoy more prosperity, 5 percentage points more than in the bank’s previous survey from 2006.
Ogorki   
3 Aug 2011
Love / Polish women USED TO BE much more attractive: [162]

When McDonalds first arrived in Poland 99% of females looked amazing and slim.
I saw all those children lured into McDonalds.
I said - in 5-10 years, half of those kids will be fat.
Now they are. Simple.
Ogorki   
2 Aug 2011
History / Sabaton 40-1. Poland WW2 (updated with: Uprising) [39]

Harry:Then perhaps your leaders shouldn't have been boasting about how much Poland wanted war?

You just blurt out crap without any reference.

They boasted about how they could stand up to Hitler and were not affraid of his attack.

no personal comments. thank you
Ogorki   
2 Aug 2011
Love / Polish women USED TO BE much more attractive: [162]

sorry guys.. bottom line is, its not all to blame on food.

More girls in Poland are - and will be getting fatter. Genetic disorders do not just materialise en mass.

Processed food manufacturers are at fault. GOD damn them all to hell.
Ogorki   
27 Jul 2011
Work / Why is Polish workmanship so bad? [52]

typical polish behaviour

...what - drinking a bottle of water and pretending it's vodka for a laugh?...

Is there an underlying reason why this happens time and time again or do people here just simply not understand the meaning of a "good job"?

...if you compare Poland to the UK 'Today' - then that's what you see

...if you compare Poland to the UK in '1939' and '1945 to 1989' - then any person with half a brain could work it out. If not :-

...do some freakin reasearch about Communism/Poland and how it f*cks you in the head.
(yeah I know - you can't be bothered)

Asside from that - you get cowboys in every country.
Ogorki   
27 Jul 2011
Love / Sigh... Polish girls have such pretty eyes. [51]

At the end of the day - you are dealing with a woman. It does not matter where you are from. NOONE freaking knows if she does or doesn't. If she turns you down, it will not be because you a Korean - but because she doesn't like the colour of your shoes! She will flirt with you until the cows come home - and when you ask her out - she's got a boyfriend. You are alone. You have to find out in your own way - however that happens. However - if you are very good looking - no problem, she will be all over you - until that is she realises that you have your own mind and you don't agree with everything she says. If you are a spineless push over - bingo! Happily ever after. Have you seen Ground Hog Day? This would be helpful :)
Ogorki   
8 Jul 2011
History / Sabaton 40-1. Poland WW2 (updated with: Uprising) [39]

One scene you can see the poles fighting on horseback.

In 1939 a large percentage of the german army was horse drawn.
Both germany and Poland had cavalry units. Poland used the cavalry to attack german
infantry with success. Battle of Krojanty - Polish cavalry defeats german infantry advance.
Later after the battle german tanks arrive. An Italian journalist sees some dead Polish horsemen
and writes how brave the Polish were to attack tanks on horse back. And so the historical slur
was created - spread by Russians. Lots of WWII history is bollocks in the same way.
Ogorki   
12 Jun 2011
History / German Traitor And Polish Pig [96]

Soldiers do have a certain honour. After war, they are able to meet and talk because to a certain degree they respect the other soldier/apponent etc. However, young people are still bitter because the civilian murders, torture, humiliation, material distruction can not be forgiven. In Poland's case - 6,000.000 - and they did not ask for it. Give it a few more generations.

Most of the plethora of races in Germany are folks from Europe who can't wait to come to live and work here

..NOT BOTH! Firstly - they have to go to work there (econmic reasons) because their countries are still recovering from mindless German destruction and communist regression and were not rebuilt by the allies so they could pay for their sins yada yada ... and secondly - one of the unfortunate side effects of working far away is that you have to live there aswell. Can't have everything.
Ogorki   
8 Jun 2011
News / Warsaw is the natural capital of Europe, not Brussels [67]

Good joke! :)

...no joke :)

Is this true? Where is this rock?

1775: the Polish astronomer and cartographer Szymon Sobiekrajski declared the Polish city of Suchowola (53°34′36″N, 23°6′6″E) to be the geographic centre of Europe.
A large rock still marks the designated spot.

Suchowola

But check this page too

...Astronomer Kopernicus told the world we revolve around the sun.
...Astronomer Sobiekrajski told the world Suchowola is central Europe.

Sobiekrajski was the first declaration. The others all came after and could not accept that this
sh**ty little town in God forsaken Poland was in central Europe.

German Empire geographers did their own geographic analysis at the beginning of the 1900s and concluded that the Austrian measurements were incorrect. The German scientists stated that the true geographic centre of Europe was in the Saxon capital city of Dresden, near the Frauenkirche.

Well..Dresden as capital is nice too! :)

...notice they do to even acknowledge the Astronomer Sobiekrajski. They don't say he was wrong - because
they just can't take it. The Austrians are much more worthy apponents to discount. Also, it had to be
Dresden - the culture capital - becuause no little sh**ty town in middle of knowere would be GOOD enough! Lol.

It is a beautiful city.

...at night

Yup! Thank you :)

...fraud - all ya good for

To finish:-
Suchowola - centre of Europe.
Any other monuments for other claims?


  • rock.jpg
Ogorki   
7 Jun 2011
News / Warsaw is the natural capital of Europe, not Brussels [67]

The exact centre of Europe is just east of Warsaw. A huge rock marks the spot.
Warsaw is the most central city in Europe.
Warsaw was completely destroyed in WWII (95%). The communists had the first chance with a blank canvas - but fecked it up by producing a pile of shite.

Now this pile of shite is slowly being transformed into a mini New York. Every brick and steel beam is thoughtful - designers flock from around the world, scientists meet in it's many peacefull parks.

Almost every developed country is investing in prime - down town bomb sites - building inspired office buildings - apartment blocks. After 20 years the very centre of warsaw is still a bomb site. Undeveloped. they are thinking carefully about how best to develop this.

It will be developed together - with all european designers, architects and it will belong to Europe. All of Europe will have an interest in Warsaw. This is how it will evolve. Warsaw due to it's distruction now has a unique chance to rise - and rise for all of Euqrope.

Berlin has been rebuilt - but too quickly - with thier own money and it's dull, monotonous and insular. It's not really an inspired or interesting place.

There ya go. Easy.
Ogorki   
2 May 2011
History / Why did communism in Poland fail? [180]

The communist - IDEA - is actually quite good.

Every one earns the same amount. All public services, transport and entertainment are free.

There will be no cases of local councillors or BBC exectuties earning 2-3 times that of the
prime minister for doing feck all. No football players making 80K a week for kicking a ball ( not
even that in some cases) etc

Communism failed because of human greed and paranoia. The people at the top started skimming and became
corrupt.
Ogorki   
2 May 2011
News / Polish people humiliated in the latest episode of Family Guy [51]

It's like a boxing ring. A ring of insults.

It depends how how many rounds you have been in that ring.
How many times you have been knocked to the ground.
How many stiches you have to your eyes.
How much blood has been soaked up from your face.
How many taunts you have had from the crowd

In the first few rounds - you can take the punches - yeh no problem. And again. And again.

Poland is in the 12th round. The slightest jab now begins to hurt.

The manager is brainwashed. The ref has been paid off.

PS - these programme makers are cowards. They make fun of people and hide behind the pretense
that "oh - it's only comedy" and rely on the fact that others will laugh at you for taking it seriously.
Ogorki   
2 May 2011
Love / What's the way to seduce a Polish girl ? [64]

If she goes home with you it's because she likes you - she will make you feel that you have 'seduced' her becuase she wants you - and she doesn't want to come accross as a slut.

Men think they have all the power over women.
Ogorki   
25 Mar 2011
History / Warsaw Uprising - The Forgotten Soldiers [117]

The Hanseatic Leage WAS german, so had been the Prussians! *rolls eyes*

YYAAAAAAAAAWWWWWWNNNNNNN!!!! Sorry just read your reply.

I did not say they were not Germans - merely three stages in "German people's" history

The Hanseatic Leage first took Polish lands around 1400 ish - Germany did not exist then.
Then Prussia Took some more Polish lands around 1600 ish - Germany did not exist then.

Then GERMANY was born around 1870 ish - and the GERMANS took more Polish Lands.

Do I have to spell EVERYTHING out?

(PS - Lubeck was originally a Slavic settlement)

Some Poles were worse than the Nazis. Some were the polar opposite.

Harry - how do you know this? Anything but first hand knowledge does not justify your claims. So - justify your claims - or shut the fack up. Theres a good boy.

er,no "he" didnt....if the ghetto area was flattened what are all those buildings doing standing by the time of the 44 uprising?Ya know,the supposedly flattened buildings that the AK fought over and through to release the inmates .....

- the warsaw ghetto WAS flattened after the Jewish uprising. The second uprising was the main one which took part in the rest of warsaw which was STILL STANDING.
Ogorki   
20 Mar 2011
Travel / Is Poland worth visiting? [35]

The stereotype that Polisg girls are one of the prettiest in the world is one of the best stereotypes about Poland :) And it's true!

The only problem is - they know that too :(
Ogorki   
5 Sep 2010
History / Warsaw Uprising - The Forgotten Soldiers [117]

This 3 year old was the responsibility of the German adults - whom asked for it. Simple.

Otherwise Polish bragging and deliberately p*issing of their mighty neighbours!

...like a scratched record...you getting booooring now.

Gdansk was created by a Slavic Monk. The first Polish King made Gdansk Polish before the
Hanseatic League took over, then the Prussians, then finally the Germans.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hanseatic_League
Ogorki   
23 Jul 2010
History / Warsaw Uprising - The Forgotten Soldiers [117]

Say thank you to the Russians, David! You paid for that longer than Germany! :)

It doesn't matter.
The battle of good over evil is eternal.
Good will always win in the end :)

Most of the ghetto area had been distroyed before 1944. Quite possibly some buildings remained. One street remains today.

And a lot more Christian Poles than Jewish Poles were killing Jews for free, both during and after the war, which is also rarely talked about.

How do you know?

Luckily almost 6500 Polish Jew-haters and criminals was forced to pay for their crimes.

This is something you read that Torq posted. How do you know it's true?

PS. Germans openly murdered children in front of their parents.
Mankind has not yet invented a bomb that distinguishes a child from an adult.

The Germans asked for it. The Poles did not. Simple.
Ogorki   
19 Apr 2010
News / Is it possible that Polish president was assasinated? If so then, by whom? [921]

That guy is full of sh*t. Illuminati is a known conspiracy mith, so are the secret activities of Freemasons. and JFK... omg. The Conspiracy/Paranoia Trap FTW.

it's all myths right? Suck on this for a while.

Abraham Lincoln was elected to Congress in 1846.
John F. Kennedy was elected to Congress in 1946.

Abraham Lincoln was elected President in 1860.
John F. Kennedy was elected President in 1960.

Both wives lost children while living in the White House.

Both Presidents were shot on a Friday.
Both Presidents were shot in the head.

Lincoln's secretary was named Kennedy.
Kennedy's secretary was named Lincoln.

Both were assassinated by Southerners.
Both were succeeded by Southerners.

Both successors were named Johnson.

Andrew Johnson, who succeeded Lincoln, was born in 1808.
Lyndon Johnson, who succeeded Kennedy, was born in 1908.

John Wilkes Booth, who assassinated Lincoln, was born in 1839.
Lee Harvey Oswald, who assassinated Kennedy, was born in 1939.

Both assassins were known by their three names.
Both names are comprised of fifteen letters.

Lincoln was shot at the theater named "Kennedy".
Kennedy was shot in a car called "Lincoln".

Booth ran from the theater and was caught in a warehouse.
Oswald ran from a warehouse and was caught in a theater.

Booth and Oswald were assassinated before their trials.

A week before Lincoln was shot, he was in Monroe, Maryland.
A week before Kennedy was shot, he was in Marilyn Monroe

Ogorki   
26 Feb 2010
UK, Ireland / Britain... What the Poles did for us. [444]

Poland was reading Enigma messages in the early 30's when Enigma was used for business prposes in Germany. Poles kept cracked the enigma code until the war broke out and simply passed on the craking formula to the Brits. It would have taken the Brits 1-2 years to crack the code at this advaced stage. Enough time for Hitler to complete his A Bomb. :)
Ogorki   
25 Feb 2010
History / WWII - who really was the first to help Poland? [900]

Witam....
I'm really hoping this thread doesn't become an argument, and I wanna avoid that b/c i just wanna learn about this, but...about ww2 and Poland, who really was the first to help poland?

Not so straight forward is it? - but very emotional as you can see. But for you - a what if scenario... but first -

As far as I could see, the UK lived up to their end of the deal...

The UK end of the deal was: In the case of a German invasion, the UK would do everything in it's power to help Poland. The UK and Franch were both much stronger and richer than Poland. UK had the largest navy. Franch had the largest army/defenses on the Planet. People were aware that war was looming for a long time. Time enough to be reasonably prepared. I doubt very much that the outbrake of war was a 'surprise'.

Very true!No one is to be blamed for what has happend to PL,but Poles.Looking for friends far away and making enemies close.Same thing is happening now...Allying with hitler was the only sane thing to do.Just like hungarians, romanians and few others did.

Someone has the set an example of how it's done - otherwise the whole of humanity will eventually go up your ass!

Dunkirk - both France and UK outnumbered by 2:1 held the Germans for 10 days and fled.

Westerplatte - Poles outnumbered 20:1 hold the Germans for 7 days, still able to fight but run out of ammo.
...

Here are the French half-heartedly attacking the Germans on the Western front and retreating. And yes they did drop leaflets at first! Not very usefull (for facks sakes).

The Poles are then seen counter attacking the Germans with cavalry support. More usefull.
(Note* No German tanks.)
...

The French could have held the Germans in the west like the Poles held them in the East -
if they were the same calibre of fighter as the Pole. Here is a typical example of the Polish fighting mentality, tenacity and heroism. Poles outnumbered 58:1! Held back the Germans.

youtube.com/watch?v=AoQj8GGHNxU

The French could have done the same and allowed the Poles to complete and unleash the Wolf - which was in production.
youtube.com/watch?v=thFecaq-dfk&feature=related

The Hawk which was in production
youtube.com/watch?v=Nr4ky-UGTm4&feature=related

The Los Polish bomber (produced before the Heinkel) was being refitted but a few
got into the air to bomb the Germans
youtube.com/watch?v=HIPEuXHydvM&feature=related

The first plane to have twin wheels becuase of the extra large bomb bay
youtube.com/watch?v=JkaJy3XJf2g&feature=related

Are we saying that Poland was more advanced than the UK and France? Did the allies not have these capabilities on the western front?

Just imagine - what if the French and the Brits showed the same conviction, dedication, foresight as the Poles. Compared to the UK and France, Poland was nothing, but look how they fought! How long do you think the war would have lasted if France and the UK did the same?

If only they had helped. If only they had fought. If only.

We know a song about that don't we? :) ;)
...
Ogorki   
25 Jan 2010
Life / Reasons for moving to Poland [291]

When you enter a shop or train carriage - everyone says, "good day" -
and when you leave, everyone says, "goodbye/see you" :)

Temperatures of -31 degrees in Poland in January 2010 are normal...

I was in Poland when it was -27. Never had so much fun in my life! I walked on a frozen Baltic sea! Was kept very warm by beautiful local girls by roaring fires in quaint dark bars until 5am. Buses, trains and cars were all working normally. Every 10 minutes we had to pop into a shop to warm up - otherwise we would have frozen. "Can I help you sir?" - "Oh - just looking". The inside of your nose freezes - and feels weird. The people are warmer - when it's colder :)