Feedback / What makes an excellent forum? [119]


Your solution is total message control and pre-crime thought check. It is impossible to do, even for Facebook or Twitter. When all reported messages are taken care of, it would still be too little / too late for you because you may happen to notice some other offending post added within the last 30 seconds that was not deleted yet. Of course, it would be our fault because we didn't pre-check the poster's thoughts.

The Internet is not meant to be used by all people; terri's advice above is a valid one.

Feedback / What makes an excellent forum? [119]

Check the /rules-privacy-tos/ page - point 20. to find the answer to your rant. It says: "20. All messages posted on this site are the sole opinion and responsibility of the poster."

Feedback / What makes an excellent forum? [119]


That's understandable when you want to be portrayed as a victim. I've just searched Twitter for the term: "you are a sk#nk" - thousands of results (and thousands of other, much more abusive). You found one example (already moved from this site). We must be doing a great job. You need to get out of your comfort zone and visit other places to realize that the PF quality and standard is much better than on other sites after all. Obviously, finding one example may allow to feel you better about yourself, but look at the big picture before you complain.

Feedback / What makes an excellent forum? [119]


Could you show me this message / link? I hope you don't suggest that I or a mod should know the thoughts of the poster to prevent posting it. Abuse posts can and will always happen. IF we didn't remove them after they have been reported, you would have the right to complain about them, but that's not the case at all.

To prevent abuse 100%, all posts would have to be pre-moderated (and possibly all posters would have to be pre-screened for criminal record and such). It is impossible to do. What matters is that all potentially abusive posts are dealt with.

Same applies to trolling - there is a reason the removable Random chat has hundreds of posts every month and some posters get suspended for weeks. Again, such posts are dealt with.

Feedback / What makes an excellent forum? [119]


Could you define these two simple terms that you use so often: abuse and trolling. Then I'll be able to address your question.

Topics unrelated to Poland, like religion, are not only in the Off-topic section but they are not available to the public. Also, anybody can choose not to see Off-topic discussions (most of them will eventually be moved or removed anyway). 90-95%% of topics are and have been related to Poland; the on-topic ratio couldn't be any higher on any Internet forum. For example, visit a forum about some other country and you'll see that the off-topic threads (not related to this country) can make up 30% or more.


Please define: "hate speech" in simple terms so that I or anybody could understand.

Feedback / What makes an excellent forum? [119]

An excellent forum is one that allows diversity of opinions and doesn't have a hidden agenda.

The single most important reason why I have ever stopped participating in a forum was the fact that certain voices were not allowed due to the forum's "partnership" with advertisers or sponsors. For example, there was a great, established forum (webmaster/tech topics) that allowed objective opinions about all corporations. Then one of the corporations have become a "sponsor" of the forum. All of a sudden, true (but negative) voices about the corporation have been quietly removed and new ones have been pre-moderated which meant only selected new topics about the corporation saw the public eye. New moderators have been added that scrutinized members who had negative experience with the corporation. "Likes / Dislikes" have also been added that were the moderators' weapon to promote positive messages and demote negative messages about the corporation. It has become clear to me that it's impossible to continue being a part of this environment.

On PF, we welcome genuine users who love or hate Poland. Some members "left" because they realized we are not a pro-Poland propaganda and that it is not patriotic to allow negative opinions about Poland or Polish lifestyle. Still, we believe that only through both positive and negative comments, Poland can become as great as it can be.


Just because someone doesn't post doesn't' mean they don't come here to read every day.


Probably as many as those who felt offended in the New York City because someone shouted on a street.

Feedback / What makes an excellent forum? [119]

@Paulina
Your "excellent" examples are really nothing special (not to mention most of them don't work in mobile). You've made almost 1.5K posts on PF; how many total messages did you post on all these "excellent" forums combined? It seems you take marketing claims as facts, which probably doesn't help in your overall judgement. You cite their forum "rules" which are in many cases the same as on PF and assume they are followed 100% (which is not true).

Talking about Facebook; do you know really smart people who use it, considering their privacy implications? Essentially, your every word (written or spoken), click, and mouse move is being analyzed by their scripts to package and sell you to the highest bidder (or to all kinds of enforcement agencies). It is impossible to post in public on Facebook without self-censorship, unless you're interested in trivial topics. It takes one (out of thousands) of "trigger" keywords to put you on the "watch list" and then possibly scrutinize your life.

How many times did you "leave" PF in the last years to come back over and over again? I've been on many different forums too, but to me being "polite" while providing little value is not interesting. There may be 100 people in a room, but if they have the same experience, watch the same TV channels, or read the same books, the world becomes small. You may "feel" you belong to these groups, but when you try to challenge them, your friends become your enemies because such "excellent" communities can only thrive when there is one common voice and little of real diversity in opinions.

Besides, you appear not to know how posting works, unless you mean 100% pre-moderated forums. Anybody can go to the forums you mentioned and post p***** rants. You're obviously fascinated by PF, so you aren't likely to notice the rants on your "favorite" forums, but I can assure you that they would stay much longer, possibly days or weeks there, than they stay here.


polishforums.com/po-polsku/ - you can talk in Polish as much as you want.

Feedback / Threads about Muslims to be automatically in Off-Topic? [20]

All religion-related discussions are in one big the off-topic thread as referenced by Vincent (this thread will be eventually moved to Polanda). If a discussion or a post is not directly/genuinely related to Poland then it will land there (or in the bin) too.

Feedback / Removal of Polish diacritical marks [45]

+ once you have the Polish language/keyboard enabled, there is NO NEED to switch it into EN (English) because PL (Polish) covers both English and Polish.

Feedback / Removal of Polish diacritical marks [45]

In Windows 7/10 you do it with a couple of clicks - language packs should already been pre-installed, they just need to be enabled. I don't know if you're in the right place - you need to be in Settings / Time & language in Windows.

Feedback / Removal of Polish diacritical marks [45]

Polish is already installed in your system - you just need to enable it. It's about installing the Polish keyboard only, NOT changing the language of the whole operating system. In Windows, go to Settings / Languages and +Add a language (Polski) - and voila, you have Polish letters when pressing ALT+letter.

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Feedback / Removal of Polish diacritical marks [45]

Windows, Linux, OSX have Polish characters / Polish keyboard available with a couple/few clicks.

Feedback / Why is the reply box now dominating the page leaving me unable to reply to a long post? [10]

You can turn it on/off now.

Feedback / Why is the reply box now dominating the page leaving me unable to reply to a long post? [10]

I'm confused - when you type, you have to look at the other posts? What if a topic has 10 paginated pages - you open them to read the posts again to reply? It doesn't work this way for the majority of people; when they type a message, they type a message. Still, with this setting, you can more easily type and read messages above while you scroll, if needed.

Feedback / Why is the reply box now dominating the page leaving me unable to reply to a long post? [10]

The purpose is convenience and better usability. Few people read quotes anyway, still you don't have to click on it every time unless you quotes a dozen of people (which we don't recommend doing).

Feedback / Why is the reply box now dominating the page leaving me unable to reply to a long post? [10]

If you click on the blue button in the top-right corner of the post area, the form will get unsticky.

Feedback / Removal of Polish diacritical marks [45]

Do you have Windows 7 or 10? If so: polishnewsseattle.org/info/PolskieLitery.htm (You may have multiple language in your Windows system and it takes a click to switch them).

Feedback / A draft of your message - now automatically saved in your local web browser [5]

It shouldn't save - try to press F5 to update your Javascript cache.

Feedback / This forum should have section under the exact title - Business [23]


This forum is for mature people who are willing to be responsible for their actions. Out of all forum members, you should be the last to complain. You've been suspended more than anybody else on this forum and 70% of reported messages have been alerted by you. It now appears your provoking messages may actually be the reason of your participation here, so it's official - your next warning = 6 month ban.

Regarding the Business category - we used to have one, but it is too general (posts related to Law, Real Estate, Law, or Classifieds were mixed together); in result, we decided to create separate forums (Work, Law, Real Estate, Classifieds) which are more logical to categorize.

Feedback / Stupid limitation on the quotation length [20]

It is not a 'short quotation' - intelligent people (all of those who participate on PF :) can remember what was said before and there is not need to quote more than one sentence max.

Feedback / Stupid limitation on the quotation length [20]

It works as it should. New topics can have longer quotations (if they are between the [ quote]and[/quote] tags).

Feedback / Stupid limitation on the quotation length [20]

New threads don't have this limit (it's possible to quote a larger part as a reference). It's possible to select only the gist of the message and intelligent readers will know what it was being referred too (and that way they will actually read the whole quote rather than scan).

Feedback / Staying on thread (re-closed) [26]

From Wikipedia: "Currently the total number of Muslims in Poland is estimated at around 31,000, most of whom are Sunni."

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islam_in_Poland

If someone is interested in Muslims and Islam, PolishForums is not the best place to discuss it. There may be one general thread opened, but we won't allow more just because some poster is fascinated with the subject (which evokes off-topic / unrelated to Poland posts). They will find better places for that, for example: islamicboard.com or ummah.com/forum/.

Feedback / Any chance of a sports category on PF [29]

Polish soccer league can go to Life (but in one thread, for example: Polska Ekstraklasa - Poland Soccer League Season 2015/2016 - all posts related to soccer league in Poland must go to this single thread then).

Feedback / Any chance of a sports category on PF [29]

Sport events directly unrelated to Poland (like the European league etc.) can go to the Off-Topic category.

Feedback / Any chance of a sports category on PF [29]

Aren't most discussions about Polish sports revolved around hooligans? If there's some important Poland-related sports news (let's say about Agnieszka Radwanska winning a Grand Slam, Fonfara or Szpilka winning a boxing championship, Poland going to Euro semi/finals, Kubica going to Ferrari, Majka winning the Tour the France, Boniek going to play for Barcelona, etc.) it can be discussed in the News sections. We also have the UEFA prediction game in the Off-topic.

(for careful readers: one of the above examples is completely unlikely to happen ;)

Feedback / Is the Administrator of the P.F. a Native Pole ? [80]


+10. And by sharing both good and bad experience Poland will only be able to progress in the right direction. If the forum was run the 'Polish-style' the bad things would have few chances to be discussed because anti-Poland 'dissidents' would be silenced.


If that was the case, Poles would not vote to join the EU. It's like you bought a diesel car and later realized you don't want that and prefer a gasoline car. Poland had enough time to decide and research the laws to make an educated decision. The funny thing is most of those who don't want the problems associated with being a part of the EU have voted for it with their hands and legs.


You are welcome to share your warnings in the Random chat; we don't make it public to avoid creating gossip or giving ammunition to trolls.

I'm going to close this topic now to avoid discussions about unrelated things here; you may continue in the more relevant forum categories (unless someone has something important to add then we could re-open it).