History / Lithuanians hate Poles? [156]


Oh yeah losing your ancient capital and half of your people's homeland to a foreigner and accepting it NO! Thanking them for it is completely sensible. Afterall there is no way that the people there have been influenced by Poland over centuries and are actually Lithuanians genetically that have been damaged by centuries of occupation. I wonder if the roles were reversed would Poland react like this? Say "yeah they took our capital and half our country, but that is acceptable because of a survey". I don't remember any of us (Lithuanians or Poles) just accepting Russian Empire as the new government when the Commonwealth was split. Maybe you just choose to ignore that this is a time when Lithuania just became free from Russia and now they should be happy to just give themselves over to Poland instead, so swap one overlord for another is a great solution in your eyes I guess.

History / Lithuanians hate Poles? [156]

Wasn't our capital? Really? So Vilnius established by Grand Duke Gediminas before Lithuania even began associating with Poland and made it the Lithuanian STATE CAPITAL makes it not Lithuania's capital yeah that makes perfect sense. So Poland is not a foreign country to a Lithuanian because everyone knows we are EXACTLY the same in every shape and form, language, culture, tradition, genetics it is all exactly the same.

The territory included Vilnius, the historical capital of the Grand Duchy of Lithuania. Let that sink in :)

History / Lithuanians hate Poles? [156]

Grateful to Poland? Protected Lithuania? Oh btw WE wanted to break the union in January 1429 Vytautas already had received the title of King of Lithuania with the backing of Sigismund, Holy Roman Emperor, but the envoys who were transporting the crown were stopped by POLISH magnates in autumn of 1430. Another crown was sent, but Vytautas died in the Trakai Island Castle several days before it reached Lithuania. If you wanna talk later the then King of the Lith/Pol saw the bigger picture which you are missing Sigismund II Augustus, King of Poland and Grand Duke of Lithuania, seeing the threat to Lithuania and eventually to Poland made the union possible so please don't you dare declare that Lithuania is to blame for the destruction of our nations and that we should be grateful for losing our independence to the point that the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth became simply Poland. Anyway everyone here should know that the Commonwealth fell because it destroyed itself from the inside believing at one point that being weak meant that nobody would attack it.

Russianised? That is just laughable you do realise that unlike Poland or Ruthenians Lithuanians are not slavic people and do not share the same language. That being said the Russians tried to russify us for as long as they have tried to russify you a nation much closer to Russia in terms of language which would be the bridge into inflicting a different culture. The fact is that Russians sent many colonists to Lithuania but they all failed and their failure is seen even today as Russian minorities are spread out all over Lithuania but are even smaller than the amount of Poles shocking isnt it considering that we have only been independent for roughly 20 years. So tell me if they could not silence our nationalism over the course of over a century and the effects of it were this small after additional half a century occupation then what would another century or even 2 centuries do? Ukrainians and Belarussians were in the Commonwealth and under Lithuania for much longer than they were under Russia yet they remained true to their identities. You might say that language is not important as Lithuanian nobility was Polanised over time that is true but the circumstances were different as becoming more Polish brought benefits to them but note that the peasants never became Polanised as it brought no benefit to them. Under Russia the same principle applies just that there is no benefit on either side. Besides Russia heavily cencored anything that would remind Lithuanians of what Lithuania is and it still didnt work.

History / Lithuanians hate Poles? [156]

Ironside I find it interesting you chose to simply pick what I repeated from a previous post rather than actually replying to my argument.

You are truly a troll I came to this conclusion after reading some of your other comments notably "Polish Lithuanian Diplomatic War? At last." I advise people who want to try to share some reason with him to just give up and let the troll do his "Trololololololol"