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Nathan   
3 Apr 2009
Language / Ukrainian language similar to Polish? [236]

But I maybe wrong.

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You totally are because you don't know the language.

I am a Ukrainian speaker.

Nobody, you are a Ukrainian speaker? My butt explodes laughing. You said:

Understand what I'm saying in Ukrainian.

Vitayu ya vas. Vi meni poneemayuti po ukrainski?

First half is in Ukrainian, but construction of a sentence is wrong fluencywise. You have to say: Ya was vitayu. The second half is totally wrong. "Vy" - not "Vi", "mene" - not "meni", "poneemayuti" is RUSSIAN (also wrong - "panimayetie" in Russian), the rest is almost right, only "po ukrajinski" is written through a "-" like po-ukrajinski. Don't say what you are not. It is stupid and disrespectful to others.

As far as I know "ponimat" is "razumet" in Ukranian

"rozumity" is "to understand" in Ukrainian
Nathan   
4 Apr 2009
Language / Ukrainian language similar to Polish? [236]

Have you been contusioned during a fight with a squirrel? Bulgarian sounds like what? Provincial? I showed you that you don't know Ukrainian, Russian and I doubt your Polish knowledge. Why do some squirrel fighters try to pretend being something else?

Syncopated? Brrr...
Nathan   
4 Apr 2009
Language / Ukrainian language similar to Polish? [236]

Nathan:
Have you been contusioned during a fight with a squirrel?

But you name some languages dialects of others and Bulgarian is "provincial" for you to Russian. I don't consider your expressions to be correct, not your hearing.
Nathan   
4 Apr 2009
Language / Ukrainian language similar to Polish? [236]

it sounds more like polish than like russian.It sounds between polish and russian but more polish and I suspect that it has more words of polish origin than of russian origin as well.

Tell better how Russian sounds in comparison to Ukrainian - like a harsh dialect. Don't be one-sided squirrel-fighter.

With provincial I mean that the accent is different from russian accent although many words are the same.The intonation is also different

Why don't you say Russian is a dialect of Bulgarian? Bulgaria existed well before Russia even dreamt of.

It is spoken only in western Ukraine and a bit in Kiev

You as always generalize. Majority, maybe, but not "only"
Nathan   
4 Apr 2009
Language / Ukrainian language similar to Polish? [236]

it expresses an authentic soul

What does it mean? It is funny. What about Hungarian it does the same or not?

Cities were russificated for a long time, but suburban areas of those cities (which I imagine you haven't visited) speak mostly Ukrainian.

Nathan, whats your problem? Southern is just giving his own opinion, on how it sounds for an outsider. Is it really that hard to acknowledge that there are certain similarities between slavic speakers? Or is that simply outside the realm for someone as narrow minded as you?

And what is your problem? I just reply. For me it sounds arrogant the way he talks of Bulgarians and Bielarus. Narrow minded, well, for you to judge, for me to decide.
Nathan   
7 Apr 2009
History / Why will Poland always be the puppet of America? [159]

Who the hell cares about Georgia?

If you don't care, you are a fool. Seeing international politics through your basement window and backyard is primitive , Teresa. You can't care for yourself wthout looking what is going on in your neighbor's house.

America has nothing to gain by supporting Israel

Who said it has? Israel defends Israel - how difficult it is to understand? America is only a purse.
Nathan   
16 Apr 2009
Love / Are 98% of young Polish girls emotionally unstable and mood changing? [191]

There is no place in the world where two currents with cold and hot water flow by at the same time, separated by almost nothing, with the only exception of woman's heart.

You never know which one will pick you up at that very moment: the one that will make you a king or one that will throw you hard against the rocks.

But again taking a chance is in men's nature and the world keeps turning around.
Nathan   
18 Apr 2009
News / Poland Should Beef Up Military [286]

f it were really the Russians fault I would believe your politicians would be up on all barricades screaming already and whole Europe would know about it!

How is the taste of the Russian ass, Brastburst boy. You are a boy :) Keep on licking, good job.
Nathan   
22 Apr 2009
Food / Your favourite Polish foods! [180]

cabbage rolls with mashroom sauce it is to die for and go to heaven.

I would give my life for that and later when I am in heaven I want more of them + Gory Wawelskie --hmmmmm -mnyam-mnyam :)
Nathan   
26 Apr 2009
History / POLISH MEMORIES OF CHERNOBYL...April 26th 1986 [32]

I was in Ternopil' oblast' in Ukraine helping my father to plant potatoes in my grandpa's field. I was 7 then. It was a hot day, clear sky, not a single cloud. We found out about the tragedy at the plant only from the radio when Sweden noticed some radioactive material in their air. May 1 was a parade in all the cities of Ukraine, then part of the Soviet Union, 5 days after the explosion!!!! and 70 kms from the place!!!!!!(if we are talking about the biggest parade in the capital Kijiv) and people were completely unaware of that with their kids. It was horrible. Communism is the worst thing that could have happened to this world. Deputies and high shots of the government sent their kids abroad while people like us were dying not knowing from what. Many firefighters died as well - ones immediately, others after a while - extinguishing the radioactive fire. These people are true heroes and they saved lives of millions. Imagine also - they had a big radio-waves dumper in Lviv to kill the waves coming from Western Europe to keep all unaware. How ....is it?
Nathan   
6 May 2009
Language / Ukrainian language similar to Polish? [236]

Lwow, Luck, Kamieniec Podolski i Zytomierz wiecznie polskie!

I can translate it: L'viv, Luc'k, Kamianec'-Podil'skyj and Zytomyr - zawzdy ukrajins'ki!
Nathan   
18 May 2009
Language / Ukrainian language similar to Polish? [236]

Isn't it true that Polish 'o' often becomes 'i' in Ukrainian, e.g. 'Dobra noc!' in Polish vs. Ukrainian 'Dobra nich!'??

Yes, and "rz" often is expressed as "r" in Ukrainian:
rzeka - rika
rzecz - rich
porzeczka - porychka
brzeg - bereg
brzoza - bereza ...
You can also notice that in Polish "e" is omitted in the last two words, while in Ukrainian it is present.
Nathan   
18 May 2009
Language / Ukrainian language similar to Polish? [236]

"-" vs "O"
glód - holod
chlód - kholod
krowa - korowa
krona - korona
król - korol'
młot - molot
mróz - moroz

"O" vs "I"
stól - stil
dom - dim
ból - bil'
pot - pit
okno - wikno

Very similar words:

choroba - choroba
łopata - lopata
pies - pes
parasol - parasolia
zima - zyma
lato - lito
wiosna - wesna
życie - zyttia
żyto - żyto
niebo - nebo
wiatr - witer

Different words:

biedronka - zozul'ka
kotwica - jakir
czołg - tank
Nathan   
4 Jun 2009
History / Polish hatred towards Jews... [1290]

The Polish-Jewish historian and the Warsaw Ghetto archivist Emanuel Ringelblum has described the cruelty of the ghetto police as "at times greater than that of the Germans, the Ukrainians and the Latvians

Please, provide a source when you quote someone. Read at least pp. 17-21 for your general knowledge.
Nathan   
4 Jun 2009
History / Polish hatred towards Jews... [1290]

Before slappering with your tongue around - read what I marked by a link. I did it 2 minutes ago and you already gave me an answer. Read first. And show me the source I was asking you of.
Nathan   
4 Jun 2009
History / Polish hatred towards Jews... [1290]

Am I a Murder?: Testament of a Jewish Ghetto Policeman (the original title is "A History of a Jewish Family During German Occupation") by Calel Perechodnik is an interesting account by a twenty-seven year old ghetto policeman in Otwock, a town near Warsaw. Perechodnik began his memoir on May 7, 1943, while hiding in the home of a Polish woman in Warsaw. The memoir, which is primarily a confession of the guilt he feels for his responsibility in bringing about the deportation of his wife and two year old daughter and their subsequent death in Treblinka (...)

academic.kellogg.edu/mandel/collins_rev.htm

This is the author of this book, who made his wife and kids deported and killed. And you quote his statements?
Nathan   
4 Jun 2009
History / Polish hatred towards Jews... [1290]

I quote Emanuel Ringelblum his statements are repeated in many other books one of them is one you quoted.

The statement I was interested in was only from that book, so...
Nathan   
23 Jun 2009
Language / Ukrainian language similar to Polish? [236]

Yes, "kh" in Ukrainian (English) = "ch" in Polish. "K" is silent. So you would read it as "cholod", correct. Little correction: the city's name is Kharkiv (Charkiv) and khlib (chlib) if you are interested in Ukrainian pronunciation. :)
Nathan   
14 Jul 2009
News / GERMANS WANT TO GERMANIZE KOPERNIK (COPERNICUS)! OUTRAGE! [1016]

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicolaus_Copernicus#Death

"The astronomer's grandfather, Lucas Watzenrode the Elder, was a decided opponent of the Teutonic Knights.[56] In 1453 he was the delegate from Toruń at the Grudziądz conference that planned an uprising against the Teutonic Knights"

His grandfather also supported financially the struggle against the Teutonic order even though he was German. So point about Copernicus' fight against T-guys doesn't convey his belonging to Polish origin.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicolaus_Copernicus#Death

The Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy states: "Thus the child of a German family was a subject of the Polish crown."[65]
Ok.
Nathan   
14 Jul 2009
News / GERMANS WANT TO GERMANIZE KOPERNIK (COPERNICUS)! OUTRAGE! [1016]

...In 1497 Nicolaus was enrolled in the University of Bologna as of German nationality and a student in canon law
THAT is a killer argument

It definately is. He considered himself as such then he must be regarded as such. Nice coup de grace in Sokrates' crimpled body giving off the last breath in this argument :) His spirit will still be able to fight in the world of internet, though, supplying more unbased arguments ;(
Nathan   
19 Jul 2009
News / GERMANS WANT TO GERMANIZE KOPERNIK (COPERNICUS)! OUTRAGE! [1016]

Just one thing; the person who chooses to fight for one country while opposing another belongs to the former.

Do you think that support of one nation against the other gives you an ethnicity? What about mercenaries or people having kids and themselves living in a foreign country, probably working and doing well, who fight to protect their kids and own well-being? Let say I live in Taiwan and fight China trying to suppress freedom of "my island". Does it make me Taiwanese? Because this is how you are called if you considered of that ethnicity. Of course, not. Ethnicity is much deeper than that, something you cannot choose. What about the Habsburg empire and many nations fighting on its side against other empires? Does it make everyone "habsburgian" or "austro-hungarian"?

Again my question remains open: "What makes you to be of a certain nationality?"
Nathan   
20 Jul 2009
News / GERMANS WANT TO GERMANIZE KOPERNIK (COPERNICUS)! OUTRAGE! [1016]

Is quoting you and saying "Nice" looks like I am surprised? You are involved with my country because your asses were kicked and kicked hard. This is the only reason :)

You love me?! Yejjjjj! I **** you too ;)
* eyes filled with tears of joy and happiness from being loved, Nathan directs his gaze into the sky and thinks of Sokrates *
Nathan   
7 Aug 2009
History / Have Poles blood on their hands? :) [496]

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Ukrainian_minority_in_Poland

The Poles suppressed the Ukrainian educational system, reducing the number of Ukrainian-language schools from 440 to 8. Higher education became unattainable for Ukrainians in Poland. In the middle schools in Volhynia only 344 (14%) Ukrainians were enrolled in comparison to 2599 Poles (1938).

Now many "filozofs" tell me that they brought "culture" and "education" to Ukraine whereas in 17th century there was much more schools in Ukraine than either in countries with such cities as Maskau and Krakau. Two greatest "educators" - Polish and Russians completely destroyed universities and schools that existed for hundreds of years.

Of the 80 Ukrainians who qualified to continue through to tertiary studies, only 3 were accepted in 1938-1939.[12] Ukrainians were openly discriminated against in the education system. In the 1938/9 academic year only 6 Ukrainians were accepted for tertiary education[13]. Eventually, many Ukrainians were forced to seek education in institutions outside the country

Here I am simply speechless.

In 1938-1939 a number of Ukrainian libraries and reading rooms were burned by Polish mobs of misguided patriotic youth who often went unpunished by the Polish police forces[7].

Quite a knowledge-thirsty youth you had back then.

Eventually, 190 Orthodox churches were destroyed and often abandoned [6] and another 150 were transformed into Roman Catholic churches.

As was quoted above Frederik William lll said:" Your religion will be upheld". Not with Polish "Christian" policies.

A large number of Polish colonists were encouraged by the Polish government to resettle in Volhynia. This number was estimated at 300,000 for both Galicia and Volhynia by Ukrainian sources and less than 100,000 by Polish sources [11] Although the majority of the local population was Ukrainian, virtually all government official positions were assigned to Poles

Exactly famous Polish expression in action: "Waszy ulicy, naszy kamianicy" said in regards to Jews, but implemented by Poles towards Ukrainians with the covered double-facedness.

genforum.genealogy.com/ukraine/messages/4892.html

General/Marshall Pilsudski started conducting his worst repressions 9/16 - 11/30/1930, when detachments of Polish soldiers and police went thru Eastern Galician villages and cities, dragging out leading Ukrainian political/independence activists (including women) and wealthier Ukrainian landowners from their homes, and beating many to death...

How did Germans dare to BUY OUT Polish houses? They even PAID for them! Shame on Germans. In Ukraine Polish PAYMENT was in different currency, not in zloty even.

After all that and much more, there are slobbering tears about UPA (Ukrainian Insurgent Army) and their fight for my country's independance.

Sometimes a good long look into a mirror would be advisable for some Poles...

For some? Sometimes? Mirror should be permanently attached to the forehead and removed right before putting into the coffin, because disease is incurable as I noticed on many other forums and only grave will solve the issue.