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porzeczka   
29 Apr 2009
Life / Why is cheating at schools in Poland accepted?! [155]

Cheating isn't accepted in Poland! Please, don't make such unfair generalizations - you are implying some „cheating culture” and trying to explain it, there is no such thing as „cheating culture” in Poland. It's true that some students try to cheat, but no more than 5-15%.

What GoDfaTheR420 described is scandalous indeed, but very uncommon. I ended my primary and secondary school in Poland. Teachers were always very strict. Usually, at exams we had to sit individually, we had few versions of exam sheets/questions. If someone was spotted cheating or even looking in the wrong direction, this person automatically had to give back his/her work and got 1 (the lowest grade) and had to get out of classroom and was humiliated. I can't even imagine a teacher helping a student!

Paying for exams common? Definitely not. If any teacher or professor was caught on taking łapówka, his carrier would be broken! If someone is doing this, he must be hiding that very carefully like in every other country.

My wife does ALL her younger brothers homework for him...not help...but actually completes the exercises!!!!!....and says its usual!!!!

What your wife is doing is definitely not good, but really, that's not true it's normal in Poland. Although, I have to say, everywhere one can find some students trying to make their life easier. Look for example at yahoo answers where thousand of students from all over the world are posting, to make someone do their homework. If you think all students in Poland have such 'help' like you wife's brother, you are deeply mistaken. Majority of parents just don't have a time, wilingness (they want their children to actually learn something) or enough knowledge (they have forgotten some material from school). Even if they are helping, they're not doing whole homework for their children!

And, In Poland, exams aren't everything, you have to participate actively in a lesson (you got points for that), you have to answer teacher's questions, you have kartkówki (unannounced little exams - quiz?), projects, presetations. We don't get grades for nothing.

well start by stopping the cheating culture~!

How do they know, they dont "learn" they cheat!

I agree it is disgrace and should be stoped.

What are you doing here is creating another ugly myth about Poland, please don't do that.

I ask you, what do you really know about Polish schools? Were you educated here? I was. And I've been learning English in the Polish public school - that's the only source of my english 'skills' . There are probably very limited and I'm still making a lot of mistakes, but I wouldn't know English at all, if I was cheating at school.
porzeczka   
29 Apr 2009
Life / Why is cheating at schools in Poland accepted?! [155]

What an intelligent way of making the Polish education system appear high ;) ;) Get the smartest kiddo and everyone copies from them :)

Ha ha, that's not very funny ;)
porzeczka   
30 Apr 2009
Life / Why is cheating at schools in Poland accepted?! [155]

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Ok. It's true that some students in Poland cheat. Although, in schools that I attended to, cheating was not common and always punished. Still, I don't understand why are you implying that Poland is a country of cheaters. Cheating in schools is the source of corruption and creates the fundaments of the cheating culture. May I understand your words like that? If so, let's see, how this 'cheating in schools' looks in some other countries:

About U.S.A
"A Duke University study shows that 75 percent of students admit to cheating. 90 percent of student admit to copying someone's paper. Denise Pope, adjunct professor in the School of Education at Stanford University says, "Nationally, 75 percent of all high school students cheat."

classroom-issues.suite101.com/article.cfm/cheating_is_on_the_rise#ixzz0EALTNyQO&A

"The Majority of US Students Cheat. Recent survey results from the Educational Testing Service and the Ad Council suggest that 75 percent to 98 percent of students cheat in high school."

prlog.org/10035000-the-majority-of-us-students-cheat.html

About U.K
"A quarter of university students have cheated by copying material for essays from the internet, claims a survey. Researchers, working with an exam plagiarism watchdog, say that very few of these cheating students are caught."

news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/education/3852869.stm

"The use of mobile phones to help answer questions during (UK) exams helped contribute to a 9% increase in cheating."
textually.org/textually/archives/2005/04/007943.htm

"Cheating in national tests for 11-year-olds is so widespread that school league tables can no longer be trusted."
guardian.co.uk/uk/2002/oct/28/schools.primaryeducation1

"Thousands of students cheating in exams. Almost 4,000 students were caught cheating in GCSE and A-level exams last summer, according to figures."
telegraph.co.uk/education/educationnews/5011756/Thousands-of-students-cheating-in-exams.html

"Some British teachers `helping students cheat'. THE Times newspaper reports that senior examiners have discovered that teachers have been caught helping their students cheat in coursework that contribute towards their final GCSE and A- level grades. This included confirming pupils' coursework in writing as original despite clear indications that the children had either colluded with each other or plagiarised material from the Internet. Reports compiled by chief examiners for GCSE, A-level and vocational GNVQ courses also highlight concerns about over-generous marking and excessive assistance provided to pupils by their teachers. The complaints came from examiners for the Assessment and Qualifications Alliance (AQA) and Edexcel boards, which account for 75 per cent of the examinations taken by pupils. "

redorbit.com/news/science/35874/some_british_teachers_helping_students_cheat

Please, don't be hypocritical and don't tell us about morals. In Poland, students certainly don't cheat more, and you have no real proof that cheating is more accepted here. Przyganiał kocioł garnkowi - we would say ;)
porzeczka   
30 Apr 2009
Life / Why is cheating at schools in Poland accepted?! [155]

case of a typical Polish denial;)

Maybe you could comment on the links that I posted, about U.S and U.K? And then we can talk about case of typical denial ;)

I've worked in both the British and Polish education systems. From what I saw cheating is far more common in Poland and far more accepted too.

Sorry, but this is not what I call a "real proof". As you can see personal experience can be relative and biased. Yours, mine or his... doesn't matter. From now on, only hard proofs like researches, stats or reports should be used as arguments.

I have no proof that cheating is more accepted in Poland, but my girlfriend has often alluded to the extent of this practice. Admittedly, she also points out that most Polish exams are near impossible to pass without cheating.

As for exams in college, I believe this depends on which college one attends, the same goes with cheating. Situation in the primary and secondary school is slightly different, because you have many little exams during the term, not one big (from every subject) like it is sometimes in college.

Anyway, as I recently posted, survey results from the Educational Testing Service and the Ad Council suggest that 75 percent to 98 percent of students cheat in American high school. I don't think we could beat that ;)

Talking about "cheating culture" in U.K: There is a major conspiracy of silence over this ... a culture has been created which sends the message that cheating is part and parcel of university life. In the 'customer-client culture', degrees are seen as something you pay for rather than something you have to learn. It's the new ethos of university life." Professor Frank Furedi, University of Kent

news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/education/3852869.stm
porzeczka   
30 Apr 2009
Life / Why is cheating at schools in Poland accepted?! [155]

How can experience be biased?!

Sometimes experience is filtered through a biased or distorted view, and it makes you perceive and remember certain things in a certain way ;)
porzeczka   
30 Apr 2009
Life / Why is cheating at schools in Poland accepted?! [155]

First, you have to prove that cheating in Polish schools, is indeed accepted. When you prove it, you can try to answer the question. If you can't prove it, you shouldn't answer. As for now, we have only accusations, without any hard proofs.
porzeczka   
3 Dec 2009
Life / Levi's Jean Size U.S. - Polish [20]

It seems to be 8 in 'Misses' and 11 in 'Junior' size .

usatourist.com/english/tips/Womens-Sizes.html

Also do young women wear low cut jeans in Poland?

It depends how low cut ;). If you mean 'biodrówki' like this - yes.

Is straight leg popular or the new skinny leg jeans?

Both are ok, straight leg is more universal, not all women like skinny leg jeans.
porzeczka   
26 Feb 2010
History / Adam Mickiewicz. What is his motherland: Poland or Lithuania? [93]

In my opinion it's because for Mickiewicz the word 'Polska' means Lithuania and the Crown together and 'Polacy' means both Lithuanians and 'Koronijasze'.

Here is a helpful quote from Mickiewicz, Books of the Polish Nation and its Pilgrimage:

The Lithuanian and the Masovian are brothers: do brothers quarrel because one hath for a name Władysław, another Witowt? Their last name is the same, the name of Poles.

porzeczka   
1 Mar 2010
Genealogy / If your ancestors were in the "Wehrmacht"... [217]

Mickiewicz was 'Lithuanian' in the same way Piłsudski was (Józef also called himself a Lithuanian). It were 'Lithuanians' like them who wanted Wilno to be part of Poland after WW1.

Here is an interesting article written by an American Lithuanian:
lituanus.org/1977/77_1_01.htm

In the course of this relationship, the cultural impact of the union was such that the educated elite of the more primitive partner abandoned its native language and became culturally subsumed into the donor society, in some way enriching the donor's culture as well.
By the late eighteenth and early nineteenth centuries few educated Lithuanians saw any contradiction in being Polish and Lithuanian simultaneously.

Looks like polish chauvinism ;)
Anyway, Mickiewicz probably had ruthenian/belarussian roots.
porzeczka   
1 Mar 2010
UK, Ireland / Britain... What the Poles did for us. [444]

Breslau

Wrocław/Breslau/Vratislav was founded by Bohemian prince Vratislav I (and named after him), so it's Czech city :)
porzeczka   
2 Mar 2010
Genealogy / If your ancestors were in the "Wehrmacht"... [217]

Such an "elite" is a bunch of mediocre mfs.

Your 'elite' was similar.

Looks like? ;)

'Polish chauvinism' heard from a Lithuanian mouth ('more primitive partner')? You simply don't want to accept that 'barbarian' Polish culture/identity was attractive enough to be preferred over others ;) EOT
porzeczka   
2 Mar 2010
History / just before the war the Polish/Ukrainian szlachta learned Ukrainian [243]

Could you point your source for this statement.

I second that. Any source confirming that NKVD members dressed as UPA were responsible for (many) Polish deaths during Volhynian slaughter?

(4500 Ukrainians imprisoned in 1939, 387 died, women and children as well)

Would you answer these questions:
- Where have you read about children in Bereza?
- How many children and women died there (and according to whom)?
- '387 died' - isn't it taken from infamous Victor Idzio?

I hope you will answer, Nathan, though I suspect it will be hard for you.
porzeczka   
2 Mar 2010
History / just before the war the Polish/Ukrainian szlachta learned Ukrainian [243]

but that is what happens when somebody tries to show another religion down the throat for extended period of time. Ukraine , or rather Kievan Rus was a center of an Orthodox religion and a very powerful one at that.

I wonder what according to you happened in Volhynia. Your explanation 'from Kievan Rus to WW2 slaughter' is a little too vague. Would you say something similar in court, as an advocate of a Ukrainian who brutally murdered thousands of Poles?

Genocide? Hmm.......Holodomor was a genocide.

Genocide isn't about numbers. You probably read this before:
Genocide is the deliberate and systematic destruction, in whole or in part, of an ethnic, racial, religious, or national group.

It is easy to criticize another nationality, so we don't have too look at our own mistakes.

Who would dare to criticize those Ukrainian Angels? As long as they don't 'lie', they can sleep in peace.
porzeczka   
2 Mar 2010
History / just before the war the Polish/Ukrainian szlachta learned Ukrainian [243]

therefore Ukrainians experienced genocide by Poles for centuries

You might as well say that Jews and Poles experienced genocide by Ukrainians for centuries.
In that definition 'destruction' should be understood as physical extermination.

we are not in court.

Ok, but your explanation was vague and misleading nonetheless :) I hoped that you would try one more time.

I have been on this board for a while and Ukrainians have been criticized on an ongoing basis.

Rather Poland: the bad, the worse, and the worst ;) Is the victim status of Ukrainians unchallengeable?

it is up the both of the governments to clear and apologize,

I don't care about their apologies, but they shouldn't complain when Poles criticize UPA.
porzeczka   
2 Mar 2010
History / just before the war the Polish/Ukrainian szlachta learned Ukrainian [243]

Sure. Orthodox faith is part of the Ukrainian make up and it has a long and strong tradition. I went back all the way to Kievan Rus because this is where that faith originated...

;) Never mind. I just hoped for more 'detailed' explanation that would actually include words like: UPA and Volhynia; years 1943-1945. Thanks anyway.

We will always disagree on those matters.

Of course, I agree with that.
porzeczka   
3 Mar 2010
Genealogy / If your ancestors were in the "Wehrmacht"... [217]

It seems he had so much more deeper he couldn't openly say because of the censure.

He wasn't forced to 'glorify' Polish culture and write in Polish. It was his preference. Why do you want him to be Lithuanian and feel Lithuanian so badly? He had dual identity, just like many people in those times. He was a Lithuanian (his local identity) because of the place of birth, but could be Ruthenian as well. So which culture Mickiewicz family in fact abandoned – Ruthenian or Lithuanian? He didn't even differentiate clearly between Ruthenian and Baltic Lithuanian language, and Lithuanian nationalism was based on linguistic identity (by this criterion, Mickiewicz was Polish). How many generations has to pass before a Ruthenian becomes Lithuanian, and a Lithuanian becomes Polish?
porzeczka   
3 Mar 2010
History / just before the war the Polish/Ukrainian szlachta learned Ukrainian [243]

Lotnik was a Polish partisan but he writes about fighting with Ukrainians. While he has an obviously pro-Polish viewpoint, he makes it quite clear that both sides were doing pretty much the same thing to

Waldemar Lotnik – a young Pole in south-eastern Poland - chronicled with amazing clarity and insight his flight from organized Ukrainian nationalist terror in 1943 and his return for vengeance as a soldier in a Polish partisan unit in 1944/1945.

Who cares? I am not interested in throwing peas into the wall anymore I can quote the whole encyclopedia

When it comes to Polish-Ukrainian relations during the war and the critical year 1943, you have only your own words, Nathan, not backed by any sources.

Aren't you interested in answering my questions #29?

burning 190 churches in Ukraine?

Polish inmates murdered his two brothers Vasyl' and Oleksander.

You can add this to the list 'source needed'.

UPA - Ukrainian Insurgent Army fought Nazis, NKWD and Polish AK and Armija Ludowa. Those who collaborated with the above-mentioned forced to prevent fight of Ukrainians for independance were considered enemies and rightfully so.

So what should have been done with those civilian 'enemies', their families, villages suspected of collaboration with AK? Weren't all Polish civilians potentially dangerous (civilian base), taking into consideration possibility of Polish uprising?

'to prevent fight of Ukrainians for independance' - an appropriate clarification. A bulk of UPA members were former Nazi policemen. In early 1944 UPA forces in several Western regions engaged in cooperation with the German Wehrmacht, Waffen SS, SiPo and SD etc.

Weren't Melnyk and Bulba also fighting for Ukrainian independence?

August 18, 1943, Taras Bulba-Borovets and his headquarters was surrounded in a surprise attack by OUN-B force consisting of several battalions. Some of his forces, including his wife, were captured, while five of his officers were killed. Borovets escaped but refused to submit, in a letter accusing the OUN-B of among other things: banditry; of wanting to establish a one-party state; and of fighting not for the people but in order to rule the people. In retaliation, his wife was murdered after two weeks of torture at the hands of the OUN-B's SB. In their struggle for dominance in Volhynia, the Banderists would kill tens of thousands of Ukrainians for links to Bulba-Borovets or Melnyk.

and you still cry. I wish I could sing you a lulliby ;)

I don't cry, and don't want to throw peas at you/into the wall any more, just beware what you write.
porzeczka   
4 Mar 2010
History / just before the war the Polish/Ukrainian szlachta learned Ukrainian [243]

Wołyń had the administration which was most friendly to Ukrainians.

A very good book about Józewski's rule: Timothy Snyder, Sketches from a Secret War: A Polish Artist's Mission to Liberate Soviet Ukraine, Yale University Press, 2005.

Ukrainian life in the inter-war Poland is often portrayed in one-sided way. As Snyder explains it: 'Soviet historians justified the Soviet annexation of Volhynia by portraying inter-war Polish policy as the exploitation of the honest Ukrainian peasant. Much of Ukrainian historiography has followed this line'.

- In the first decade of Polish rule, Polish authorities built 114 elementary schools and a high school, as well as three hospitals and ten public buildings. All important towns were electrified, and telephone service was introduced. The proportion of children in school increased from perhaps fifteen percent to more than seventy percent.

- The state subsidised local Ukrainian reading societies, which by 1937 had some five thousand chapters. The state also provided the capital for a Ukrainian cooperative network. The state-sponsored Ukrainian theatre presented national classics and national themes, and was on the road every weak a year.

- Józefski built a Ukrainian high-school and a Polish-Ukrainian technical school. Most Volhynian children, regardless of nationality, had some Ukrainian language in their schools. In 1933, there were 546 Polish schools with Ukrainian as a subject, and 530 bilingual schools. By 1936, more than two-thirds of Volhynian elementary schools had some Ukrainian component : either Ukrainian was taught as a mandatory subject in Polish schools (775 schools), or certain subjects were taught in Ukrainian in bilingual schools...


From encyclopediaofukraine.com:

The main centre of Shevchenko studies in the 1930s was the Ukrainian Scientific Institute in Warsaw, which published 13 volumes of a 16 volume set of the complete works of Shevchenko. The Soviet occupation of Poland put an end to the edition.

Doesn't seem like Ukrainian language and culture were forbidden.
As far as I know there was no 'pacification' in Volhynia.
porzeczka   
4 Mar 2010
Life / Polish Cartoons/ Legends [15]

MORE OF POLISH CARTOONS!!!

Kubuś Puchatek

Chojrak
...

bajki-dla-dzieci.eu

100% Polish:
porzeczka   
4 Mar 2010
History / just before the war the Polish/Ukrainian szlachta learned Ukrainian [243]

And many of these awful acts were stimulated and some also supervised by these totalitarian regimes.

Why, according to you, UPA started murdering Poles in February/March 1943?

Nathan

I know this wikipedia article. There is no need to quote it. You should just use appropriate/wiser words, otherwise one day we will learn from you that Bereza was a death camp for Ukrainian women and children, Poles forbade Ukrainians to speak in Ukrainian, and burnt Orthodox priests during 'pacification'. Mykhailo Hrushevsky, an early Ukrainian nationalists leader, is hardly objective source. Ukrainian life in the Interwar Poland was in shades of gray, not as black as some want to paint it.

terrorized the Ukrainian population

The OUN terrorized Galicia too.

Piłsudski, who had also favored finding peaceful solutions to the minorities problem,

I wish you remember it.

They did fight. So what is your point?

That you should change your definition of 'enemy'.

and he spoke out against the Pacification campaign in 1930

There was no pacification in 'Volhynia'. You confuse 'pacification' with 're-vindication', which goal was to deprive the Orthodox of those churches that had been Greek Catholic before Orthodoxy was imposed by the tsarist Russian government.

About pacification:

Knowing that Piłsudski's policies appealed to centrist Ukrainian parties, the OUN undertook a policy apparently designed to radicalise Ukrainian Public opinion. In July 1930, Ukrainian nationalists began sabotage actions in Galicia.

In September Piłsudski ordered the pacification of Galicia, sending a thousand policemen to search 450 villages for nationalist agitators. They found weapons (1,287 rifles, 566 revolvers, 31 grenades) and explosive materials (99.8 kilograms), but Galician Ukrainians interpreted intrusive searches in political terms. For many pacifications were the defining experience of Polish state power. By provoking the pacifications, the OUN succeeded in crippling Piłsudski's minority policy in Galicia.

the wrong-doings of your newly-arrived neighbors or ask to resurrect the church from ashes?

UPA didn't murder Osadniks - almost all of them were deported to Syberia. They murdered Poles who lived in Volhynia for generations/hundreds of years, innocent civilians who didn't take part in 'wrong-doings' against Ukrainians. You simply apply collective responsibility.

and listen to offenses against Ukrainian UPA

Nathan, you offend Poles very often, even in this thread, so you shouldn't complain. Everyone has right to his/her opinion.

Let's learn on our mistakes now, so they are not done in the future.

What are your mistakes?
porzeczka   
6 Mar 2010
History / just before the war the Polish/Ukrainian szlachta learned Ukrainian [243]

To make all Poles fled, of course.

There is possibility that UPA planned to murder all the Poles in Volhynia, and in case of Galicia - wanted Poles 'only' to flee.
I think it can be treated as 'preemptive strike' in form of ethnic cleansing of civilians - in the OUN-B leaders' minds, Eastern Poland/Western Ukraine could have been contested again like in 1918-1919, with civilians being part of the conflict.

Nazis showed Banderists how to 'ethnic cleanse' when they murdered Jews in Volhynia with the help of future UPA members. OUN-B's admiration for Nazi ideology obviously made the decision easier.

Polish professors of Lwów Technical University killed by Germans

The lists of professors were prepared for Nazis by Ukrainian students. Western Ukrainians had numerous chances to exact their revenge before...

Poles which burnt all our churches, imprisoned our wives, closed our schools, forbid our language, took our jobs, and terrorize us on a daily basis,

Read the article you quote so many times once again, you interpret it freely. And still haven't answered my questions (about kids in Bereza, and NKVD members dressed as UPA during Volhynian massacres)

Real or imagined wrongs by Poles could have played a role in mobilizing/agitating local population. As to Banderists, if they were able to kill thousands of their fellow Ukrainians fighting for interdependence of Ukraine, why should they have had any scruples when it comes to murdering Poles.
porzeczka   
6 Mar 2010
Life / Polish Cartoons/ Legends [15]

Try if they will like these:
Porwanie Baltazara Gąbki
...
Miś Uszatek

youtu.be/Bo4dYjb5Rro

Chojrak, it's spookiness is too confusing.

I like it ;) but you are right if the children are small, it might be too scary for them, so don't show it.
You want 100% Polish cartoons, and not only with Polish dubbing like Muminki etc.
porzeczka   
6 Mar 2010
History / just before the war the Polish/Ukrainian szlachta learned Ukrainian [243]

;) What else?! Nazis knew who was a Jew and who not and they needed specifically Ukrainian students to give them a list of Polish professors of L'viv university?

It looks like they needed.

During the night of July 3 and July 4 several dozen professors and their families were arrested. The lists were prepared by their Ukrainian students[1]

You might want to answer how did Nazis know who was a Jew?

It was all imagination. They just woke up and said:"Let us imagine wrongdoings".

Some wrongdoings were true, some were not (moreover on personal level).

THIS IS MY FREE INTERPRETATION

Where is your source for Ukrainian kids and women killed in Bereza Kartuska, Nat? Isn't it another example of YOUR FREE INTERPRETATION?

4500 Ukrainians imprisoned in 1939, 387 died, women and children as well)

'Eventually, 190 Orthodox churches were destroyed and often abandoned [6] and another 150 were transformed into Roman Catholic churches.[7]' means 'Poles burnt all our churches'.
I don't argue with facts, only with your manipulation of them, and don't read only bolded fragments or the ones that you choose.

20 years of Polish rule, including 10 years of Józefski's rule in Volhynia shouldn't be limited to one-two years. Did you know that OUN's victims in the Interwar Poland were people who wanted peaceful coexistence between Poles and Ukrainians?

But when Ukrainian nationalists in Galicia wished the Poles to get the hell out of their lands, it is A "BIG DEAL", "NAZI COLLABORATORS".

Mass-murdering of defenceless civilians is always a big deal. We can try to understand why it happened, but there is no justification to it - that is what people should learn from the past.

I could give you examples of ethnic minorities in Ukraine, that are repressed and their rights are not respected (according to them).

You behaved like BARBARIANS in Ukraine, WILD, INHUMANE BARBARIANS

And how did 'you' behave? You lost your 'only-victim' status.
I said that Poles and Ukrainians were both victims and perpetrators, but that's not enough for you. You believe that Ukrainians are morally superior and all their crimes are excused.
porzeczka   
2 Aug 2010
News / Poland and Kresy being reunited? [162]

Well it is well known fact that Stalin promised Poland that it would get Lwow

It seems that Roosevelt (and Churchill) very delicately 'suggested' that Lwów could be returned to Poland. Stalin was against it.

Churchill, Roosevelt and Stalin in Yalta, 6 February 1945:

Stalin: I refer now to our allies' appeal with regard to the Curzon line. The President has suggested modification giving Poland Lvov and Lvov Province...

Roosevelt:This is my only suggestion. If we can work out some solution of this problem it will make peace much easier.

Churchill:I have made repeated declarations in Parliament in support of the Soviet claims to the Curzon line, that is to say, leaving Lvov with Soviet Russia. I have been much criticised and so was Mr Eden especially by the party which I represent. But I have always considered that after all Russia has suffered in fighting Germany and after all her efforts liberating Poland her claims is one founded not on force but on right. I that position I abide. But of course if the mighty power, the Soviet Union, made a gesture of magnanimity to a much weaker power and made the gesture suggested by the President we would heartily acclaim such action.
porzeczka   
24 May 2011
History / Poland's biggest historical blunder? [341]

In Lviv (then Lwów or Lemberg) in 1918, after the Polish Army captured the city, seventy-two Jews were killed by a Polish mob that included Polish soldiers

Strangely, it's hard to find wikipedia's information about massacres committed by the Ukrainian army in 1918-1921 (not because they didn't happen).

Ukrainian nationalist forces led by Petlura were responsible for 493 separate massacres.

Manus I. Midlarsky (2005), The killing trap: genocide in the seventeenth century, Cambridge University Press, page 47.

e.g.

1919; February 15-17: Proskurov (Podolsk province): Massacres, rapes, looting by armed units of the Ukrainian People's Republic. Estimated number of victims: around 1,500.

1919; March 22-26: Jitomir (Volhynia province): Massacres, rapes, looting by armed units of the Ukrainian People's Republic. Estimated number of victims: between 500 and 700.

...
massviolence.org/Crimes-and-mass-violence-of-the-Russian-civil-wars-1918?artpage=3

Talking about Ukrainian 'barbarians' who plundered towns and murdered civilians.