News / GERMANS WANT TO GERMANIZE KOPERNIK (COPERNICUS)! OUTRAGE! [1016]

Excuse me, but aren't we all the same human beings?

You just love to have something to bicker about don't you? If it's not about German people, then it's about Jewish people, if it's not about Jewish people, it's about Slavic people..

Kopernik. Copernicus. Whatever? He spoke German. Does speaking German make you German? I don't know? If you're born in Poland, but raised in Germany and are accustomed to German culture and traditions, does that makes you Polish? I don't know?

Pointless? I'm sorry to squash your discussion but if you were born on this planet, then that's good enough for me. Why can't people be proud of humanity and be proud of all the great minds from History? How about that?

Maybe in about a few decades there will be no England, Germany, Poland, France or Holland.. Who knows it'll change into the United Nations of Europe and then what? Are we then going to bicker about the Germanicness or Slavicness of people who still carry a Polish or German surname?

Maybe we will all speak Polfreglish by then? (It's in the making trust me, only smart people know this!)

LOL

I was born in Holland, does my name look Dutch to you? Not really. Seriously, who cares? Does my name makes me French? Does the fact that I was born in Holland make me Dutch? I don't know, maybe I prefer the weather in Spain? It's not where you're from, it's who you are. It's where YOU feel at home.

My point? We're all Europeans. Or better yet, human. Copernicus (Or Kopernik if you prefer!) is an historical figure of some importance and he died ages ago so we can't ask him if he felt Slavic or German..

End.

News / GERMANS WANT TO GERMANIZE KOPERNIK (COPERNICUS)! OUTRAGE! [1016]

I agree again!

News / GERMANS WANT TO GERMANIZE KOPERNIK (COPERNICUS)! OUTRAGE! [1016]


It probably doesn't answer your question?


This whole thread is? So I might aswell agree with you again!

No?


Shall I give you a tutorial then?

News / GERMANS WANT TO GERMANIZE KOPERNIK (COPERNICUS)! OUTRAGE! [1016]


I trust people who prove they can be trusted. Trust and respect should be something you gain through hard work, through being a helpful or even useful person, and all the things you contribute to your environment?

I mean, if someone doesn't have or lost track of her or his roots, that's not always their fault?

If you look at the world's history, and go back to the earliest days of humanity, you can see that all humans once travelled around, met, exchanged culture, beliefs, traded, and really most of them were hunters and nomads..

So basically we all came from the same continent, only much and much later people settled and slowly began to forge territories, which later became larger domains, which eventually became the countries we now live in..

My point is, you're not that much different from me or anyone else just because you were born in Germany?

Give it some thought then.. Suppose that you would have a family of your own, and tomorrow Germany was going to be at war again, and they would lose the fight and some foreign force occupied Germany. (Suppose!) Suppose they would persecute a certain group of people and you happened to belong to that group of people. (Suppose!)

Suppose you would flee to America to ensure the future and safety of your children. (Which is honourable.) Your children would slowly lose their roots, and become what you call Cosmopolitans. And finally, ask yourself this question;

Would you see yourself as a totally different person if you were forced to live somewhere else? Would you see yourself as a person who should be mistrusted just because he had to move?



She's not lecturing any of you Grzegorz. She basically said: You have the right to live your life just like others have the right to live theirs. Nobody should tell eachother what to think, because that should be something you can do for yourself being a grown man (Or woman!) and all..


I think we should look at the past and learn from it, and not bring the past back to the future. Everything changes. Always. If things never changed, people in general wouldn't have invented so much..

I think it's good to treasure the past, but I think we can all be proud (Or sometimes ashamed!) of major breakthroughs and human achievements throughout our history..

I'm just as proud of a German person who invents a nature-friendly car than I would be of a Polish person who would do the same..(Or any other nationality for that matter!) All that should matter is, that it's a positive change and we should be proud of anyone who does something positive for all of us? If we'd all work together and shared our expertise we could probably invent and develop a lot of useful technology and probably much faster..

I'd rather be proud of a single person who can prove he deserves my admiration than to be proud or even admire a group of people who didn't prove anything yet and who sometimes seem to think that pride, respect or even admiration is their birthright?

Respect and pride are like salary, you have to earn all of that through the hard work you deliver, or through the actions you perform.

That seems to be the only difference in thinking between us? Also I want to add this: If you mistrust people because of things they cannot help themselves, then those people will feel your mistrust. They will doubt, and they will in turn, start to mistrust you..

You could say that this is where all the fear, lying and decieving starts. Simply because we think we're so much different from eachother while infact, we all have the same basic needs, instincts and emotions.

In addition: I like football, especially when the national team plays. It connects people, and gives them something to be proud of. So yes, I too can feel a bit of nationalism and what it means sometimes, but it shouldn't ever be a reason to mistrust, or to hate someone else for.

I know some guys who will shout at any German. I never did this. I've made some jokes (I admit I have a bad sense of humour sometimes!) but really, that's it. You'll never see me judge someone else based on skincolour or nationality..

In the end, if you go back long enough, we all have the same roots, we all have the same origin, and we all have the same mother.. The world was called Gaia, it was one continent without boarders or even nationalities.

So it seems history will repeat itself? I think we will globalize at some point, and I also think there's no need to be afraid of that..

Copernicus was a great mind, and he probably was a freethinker, (With the Church persecuting almost anyone who didn't agree with them that the world was flat along with some other ridiculous ideas.) and above all else, he was a human being, so why can't we just admire the man for what he achieved, instead of admiring him only for where he came from?

You don't really need someone else to feel better about yourself. You can do that yourself, just by being the someone you would like to be.

That's what being a freethinker means. That's what being a cosmopolitan means. So treasure our differences, because our differences make us stronger, our differences make us more versatile and very able to adapt to anything that is being thrown at us as a people..

Maybe we should all go back to our roots and pass the peace pipe around for a while?

News / Polish-American soldier and his wife murdered by four marines [163]


Enough people are actually. (Although it does leave room for debate, because one of the murderers has admitted to be a Crip general, and we don't know everything about the past of this particular woman, so this doesn't necessarily have anything to do with race.)


I really don't think so? The murderers were caught, and will get what they deserve according to law. It's still a crime and it's still not tolerated? I fail to see how Obama can be held accountable or even be responsible for the extreme behaviour of people. (In general.)

Guns should be banned from society for personal and private use, unless you're a professional hunter. I'm perfectly able to sum up the destructive influence guns have on your country, so do humour me as to why you would think that guns are needed somehow..

You'll have to do better than: ''Bad people carry guns.''

Hey, even good people can be made bad? That's no excuse.

Or this lame attempt at philosophy: ''Guns don't kill people, people do.''

Someone could shoot a body builder twice his or her size with a gun, but without a gun, such persons will most likely not try that out. Someone could shoot up his or her whole class with a gun, but without a gun he or she can't fight, or in cases of knife-crime, even stab the whole class?

So my reply would be: ''Guns don't kill people, but they sure as hell make it easier to do so.'' How many more schools will have to get shot up before you realize that I'm right and you're wrong?

But please, go ahead and humour me. (You know, a gun only has one purpose, and one purpose only, because I'm not talking about a hunting rifle here.) So again, why do you need a gun?

Do you fix things in your house with a gun? Seriously, why do you need one?

Repeat after me: So I can defend myself if necessary, because if I'm honest it's just that I'm scared of other people who might carry a gun.

So if guns were banned from society, you wouldn't have to be that scared anymore, because maybe 5% of the people will still carry a gun. (Like over here.) Buying bullets may turn out to be a bit of a problem though. Now, with that idea in mind, you would only have to worry about the few people who are crazy enough to carry a knife, but really, if you are, just a few lessons in Aikido might restore your confidence?

You'll have to excuse my sense of humour, but I'm serious, most people aren't violent by nature. I really believe that it's the whole idea of people carrying guns that instills fear and paranoia, which probably results in a negative atmosphere, which probably results in more violence.

Vicious circle?

News / Polish-American soldier and his wife murdered by four marines [163]


That's why we have a Police force? (Police officers will also be able to do a better job when less people are likely to carry a firearm?) Oh, and a society (Or even a world!) which is neatly divided into good and evil people doesn't exist, it's usually a lot more complicated than that. A good person could turn into a bad person. A bad person could turn into good person aswell. All depends on the circumstances and lessons learned?

I really believe in the idea of a better equipped and perhaps in general, a more specialized Police force? (I can easily imagine an increasing sense of disrespect for the law when almost everyone is allowed to carry a gun?)

I wish we could wait for a better world, but I'm afraid we'll have to change things ourselves to make it happen?

News / Polish-American soldier and his wife murdered by four marines [163]


There would be little to no reason to defend yourself at all if guns were banned from society.


I was actually talking about the people who are a threat to the Police, and ofcourse that's partly due to guns being available in stores. How to make it easy for a criminal I wonder? (Hey, it couldn't get any easier?)


Even the good, and respectful gun owner could get into a psychosis? (Do you know what a psychosis is?) My point, even good people can sometimes do extreme things that they normally wouldn't do.


Again, too simple for me. If killing is evil, then what is the difference between a soldier and a gangmember? (Or like the above article, being a gangmember and a soldier at the same time?) Again, it's not black and white, good and evil..

Oh, and ofcourse corrupt Police officers also exist. Priests who abuse children also exist. So who is good and who is evil? Now, Robin Hood was a criminal according to the Sherrif, but he did good things..

If you divide the world into good and evil, it only shows you haven't been through much yet? If you were a good person at heart, but grew up in a rough neighbourhood which was infested with gangs, then you would have to seriously consider joining one of these gangs just to survive. (And not because you enjoy being a criminal!)

Give me one reason why people should carry guns for private use other than for hunting purposes. (So they can defend eachother from eachother?)

I guess I might aswell talk to a wall?

News / Polish-American soldier and his wife murdered by four marines [163]


I leave that open, because it's obvious that if there is a God, he gave us free will, and so if there is a God, I think WE have to DO things for eachother to make life better for ALL of us.


I don't refer to anything except common sense. (Anyway, the first commandment says: Thou shalt NOT kill, so NOT means NOT. It doesn't mean not necessarily.)

Let me rephrase that into another question; If you kill someone, does that make you feel good? (Or, does thinking about killing someone make you feel good?) I think healthy people will answer that question with a no. (Because deep down you know that killing another human being is wrong.)


Exactly. So even respectable and hard working people have a profession, and that doesn't guarantee morality either!


No it isn't.


True, but you know that's not the way it works. When you have gangs in your neighbourhood, intimidating you, threatening to kill you or your family, then you might be too scared to refuse? (Again, it's not as simple as you're making it out to be!) Once you're in, there's a small chance that you're getting out alive..


According to my argument, people wouldn't have easy access to guns, making it more difficult to start a gang, and easier for the Police to repress gangs. Resulting in a possibly much safer environment, where people actually feel safe enough to go to the Police at all.


Hey, you're welcome, no real harm intended there!

News / Polish-American soldier and his wife murdered by four marines [163]


Do some research on my last name, and I'm sure you'll be able to find out exactly how much I know about America.

You my friend, know nothing about me.


Why do you people tell us Americans how to live. (question mark.)

We might aswell tell you how to spell too?


Your country usually doesn't stay out of our business either, besides, I live in a democratic country, I have freedom of speech and am just as much entitled to my vieuws and opinions as you are.


I wonder about that too.


Some of your friends know exactly where I live. I'd say, come and ask me an honest question if you think my feelings really matter to you, and you'll probably receive an honest answer.


Why not?


Both.

And why are you a Nazi? Don't you know that's extremely bad for your health these days?


Atleast I have my own point of vieuw, my own opinion and a decent answer when people ask me a question.

Fool.


No ofcourse not, but then again there's a huge difference between accidents and accidentally pulling a trigger..

Life / What can citizens do to make Poland a better place to live? [125]

I think that even the smallest of gestures may have a huge impact for the better on a society as a whole. Especially when more people in your environment start to pick up on those small pleasantries, simply because someone else may remind them of the fact that it isn't too hard, or even too much to ask for to be nice and polite. Maybe a little more honesty and tolerance wouldn't hurt us that much either, but unfortunately, you can't change everything.

I can remember it all like it was yesterday how I became such a twisted and negative individual because of all the bad examples that people have showed me. And at some point, I really believed it was perfectly normal to be like that.

So I agree, such gestures, no matter how small, could help someone else to become positive. When you're blaming, preaching, judging or showing someone else how superiour you are compared to that person really doesn't help at all.

:)

And making it impossible to post a funny smiley to cheer someone up doesn't help either!

:p

Love / WHY DO POLISH MEN LIE? [150]


Okay, so all you women who are online aren't nice either?

;)

Love / Polish guys who have never had girlfriends [71]

Okay, so I've never had a girlfriend before the age of 25. I'm obviously not the same person as the guy you're dating, but I could probably answer a few of your questions and hope it'll make sense.

:)

It's natural to be shy around a girl you really like, and to be nervous about what she may think of you. It means you're important to him! (Atleast what you may think of him is very important to him!)

That he never had a girlfriend may not mean he refuses to commit to one, because it could just aswell mean the exact opposite?

I mean, he might've been ahead of his age, and he may believe in true love, and he may be very serious about relationships. (Atleast it sounds as if he does, because he's obviously not rushing into anything!) I recall a few girls wanting something of me when I was younger, and although I really liked the idea and was sexually interested, I knew they weren't too serious about things, and I found that difficult to deal with when I was younger. It all just meant very much to me. (You know, pink clouds, marriage, and probably too much of silly and romantic ideas.)

Maybe I shouldn't have, but hey, I only had brothers, so what did I know about girls really? I'd like to add that my situation differs, because I've been a scapegoat where I live, and it's hard to get to know people when you're the subject of gossip and slander, because some other people think you're all different and weird. (Just like you've put it, highly unusual? It's not as unusual as you think though, and I'm just speaking up because I'm passed that stage already!) I don't know about his situation though, and like I've said, I'm not the same guy.

Just be yourself, and let him be himself, and try to understand it's all new to him. Oh, and don't set up any time tables, because you can't exactly plan or schedule when someone is supposed to want you, or love you, or to be ready for you.

I hope this made sense, what I'm trying to tell you is that it probably all means very much to him, and that in many ways, that could be a very good, and very special thing for you.

:)

Life / Polish stereotypes of other nationalities!? [472]


Humour me.

;)

Life / POLISH TEENAGERS TURN TO PROSTITUTION... [77]


Oh really? Such a poor thing..

;)

Love / What do Polish girls think about Gypsies? [116]

They definitely look Romanian to me? I really don't think they look English at all. (Apart from the school uniforms maybe!) Oh, and they also aren't that blonde, because it's pretty obvious they've been dying their hair.

;)

Food / What's your favorite Polish beer? [870]

Tyskie!

:)

Seriously, it's good beer!

Food / What's your favorite Polish beer? [870]

Tyskie!:)

Enjoy, but do try to keep your environment clean?

Love / Polish guys who have never had girlfriends [71]

Too many novels, or too many movies, or too much alcohol.

;)

Yup, definitely.

UK, Ireland / Mercy flight for dying Polish woman living in the UK [21]


Although it's very sad news, it's really good to know that some people still care..

:')

So yeah, I've got mixed feelings about this!

Love / What to wear when trying to pick up girls in Poland? [58]

True, it's not what you wear, it's how you behave..

;)

..and ofcourse that includes taking good care of yourself, and a good personal hygiene!

Love / Woman 23, man 47 years old. What do you think about ? [162]

Well, best wishes and much happiness to you who truly love eachother. Oh, and when you really love eachother, then whatever someone else might think should be totally irrelevant to the both of you.

:)

..that's what I think.

Love / Are Polish Women cold and aloof? [249]


Depends on the guy really, but it's true that some of us like a challenge..

;)

Just don't overexaggarate anything?

News / Polish Mom claims daughter got pregnant from swimming in pool! [162]


Hey, after reading all of this, I wish women wouldn't meet me!

;p

LOL!

Love / What do Polish Guys Like Women to Wear? [64]


I couldn't have put it any better myself!

:)


Hey, there's no need to be cruel? They might live happily ever after..

;)

Love / What do Polish Guys Like Women to Wear? [64]

I wanted to say that, but I'm not a Polish guy, so I didn't feel addressed.

:)

But thanks for making me chuckle!

Love / Polish girls attitudes towards sex. [568]

Amaranta, I just want to say one thing. I understand where you're coming from, and I can't say I disagree. But! I also want to say that there are a lot of boys out there who would do all of those things you mentioned, but they usually aren't the most succesful types.

''Nice guys finish last.'' Maybe you're not completely unfamiliar with this saying either?


True, but on the other hand, how many women would choose personality over social status, or even money?


The same goes for the ladies I'm afraid. I wonder how many men are actually able to live up to their expectations. Sure, some will, but most won't..

Love / Are all Polish men Psychos? [111]

Or he simply doesn't want to bother you with his problems, because how well does he know you? I mean, you've said it yourself, you only see him once in every couple of weeks at an evening class..

Aniol, maybe he likes you, and maybe he's interested, but it could be that he has his pride, and would like to solve his problems before he's confident enough to actually ask you.. If he's clearly interested, as you've put it, then I think it's very likely that he's keeping you at a safe distance for the time being.


Brilliant! And how would you know that? Do you know him? Anyway, a guy who says he has some problems in his life doesn't sound like a psycho to me. We all have our fair share of troubles and problems from time to time, and we all have our own different ways to solve them?

I think you should just let him be for a while, and just talk with him at your evening classes if you want to. See what happens? In any case, it probably doesn't have anything to do with you Aniol.

:)

Love / Are all Polish men Psychos? [111]

What kind of things? She barely even knows him? I'd say that she should decide for herself wether or not she can trust him, if she ever gets to know him better.


Could also be an option, although I don't think that's the case if he bothered to give her his phone number..


Yup, that's how it looks over here, but then again I'm not going to say anything about two people I've never seen talking to eachother. I mean, it could be there's a little something going on between the two of them?

:)

Love / Are all Polish men Psychos? [111]


Hey, feel free to mention my name. Nothing surprises me anymore!


Yeah, he might crawl through the cable..


It's me!


Nah, I wouldn't hurt a fly.

:)

*smirk*

Polonia / What About The Poles In The Netherlands? [102]


Feel free to stop by if you ever find yourself in North-Holland. I always keep a few beers in the fridge, and if you really are looking for something beyond Heineken, I know this whole region like the back of my hand, and could probably show you where to find whatever you're looking for..

;)