History / Polish hatred towards Jews... [1290]

Hm, I am half Jewish (maternal side, guess that would make me Jewish according to Jewish laws - thank God I am not religious anyway:) ) and I have to say that it is rubbish to state that all Poles or the biggest part of the Polish ppl hate the Jews. My personal experience is that in all my life I met only one person who said to me that she didn't want to talk to me anymore as soon as I stated my mom was Jewish. She didn't even say she hated Jews, she just said that she did not want to talk to me anymore. This could be also due to the fact that she might not like me or something:) For the rest: I have never met any Pole that said or made clear that they hated me for what I am. On the contrary, they are very interested in the story of my maternal family, of which 75% got killed during the Holocaust. And besides that, I made my first fragile steps in starting to date a lovely Polish lady, so I definitively do not hate the Polish ppl. I just take person per person as I do with everybody. There are *ssholes among every ppl in this world, but luckily 99 per cent of the ppl in the world are good and nice; let's just ignore the bad apples in the basket. True, some Poles, Lithuanians and Ukranians were eager to help the Nazis to exterminate, but it wasn't the entire population, only a small percentage and besides, that was more than 60 years ago and you just can't blame ppl for what their grandparents did, can ye? If there is a place that I've been where you felt that anti-semitism is still a presence, I would say it is Russia and the former Russian states.

M-G (sans rancune)

Life / Disco Polo - No No No No No! [95]


I liked it! I liked the complexity of the melodyline, the sophisticated chord-scheme and the depth of the lyrics! And most of all, I liked the high quality video they made! These guys must have a huge budget at their disposal to make videos! Disco Polo Rules!

M-G (is feeling a bit awkward ever since he got out of bed this morning - and is now really, really off now: stop feeding me Disco Polo, before you know it, I will buy one of those flashy shirts these guys are wearing)

Love / Polish girls, how are they when they are in love? [86]

Yeah, I know, that's why I said it's not specifically a Polish issue, wise guy :) But to be more specific: I've been dating this lady for a few times now, but to every date we have there are multiple cancellations for various reasons. She seems to be genuine, but I've got a gut feeling that she's bs'ing me.

M-G

Love / Polish girls, how are they when they are in love? [86]


Could be true, I'm 4 years here and she is 3 years here and although she claims to be a tough chick (and I've seen her give out to an unpolite deskclerk, so I guess there's some truth in that), but I made her blush a few times :), so my best bet would be that she's a bit of both: big mouth (big city grl) and shy at the same time...My gut feeling basically is inspired by all the golddiggers I encounter, and I have encountered quite a few...Comes with the job, I know, but how about when you want somebody who likes you for who you are, not what you are?

M-G

Love / Polish girls, how are they when they are in love? [86]


No, but that's what I said. I was just wondering if it was a cultural thing, not specifically Polish. I added this because she is from Poland and I am not really familiar with Polish culture as such - could be that this behaviour is normal accepted within Polish society. That's why I added it.

M-G

Love / Polish girls, how are they when they are in love? [86]


Hm not all women are the same - I've made up my mind anyway, just wanted to see if my assumptions (which I am not going to state here) were shared with, as you call it, randoms. I know she likes me, you don't date somebody a few times if you don't like him/her.

And by the way: it's just a question.

M-G

Love / Polish girls, how are they when they are in love? [86]


Hey, cut the attitude, lady! If she didn't like me, she would not contact me at all and let me do all the work. But she does. I'm man enough to see when a girl does not like me. I just move on, I was just wondering if it was a cultural thing, well apparently it is not. I did or said nothing to diminish you being a female, right?

M-G

Love / Polish girls, how are they when they are in love? [86]


Ah yeah, I just ask a question and you come barging in being all defensive and stuff - see if I care, just cut the attitude. Didn't get a good night sleep last night? Well if you didn't, pls don't take it out on me, will ya?

Lowfunk: thanks -

M-G

Love / Polish girls, how are they when they are in love? [86]

I'm planning to do that, but at this moment in time, I have not. Basically it's just exploring for now.

M-G

UK, Ireland / What do Polish people think about Wales and Welsh people? [191]


Try Irish - they love words like that. They love the Welsh for some reason. I personally do not hate the Welsh and I do not like them. I don't have an opinion about the Welsh.

M-G

UK, Ireland / Polish Festivals/Exhibitions/Events in UK [91]

Hm Positively Poland, is that the same as Negatively Norway?

:)

M-G (sorry, couldn't resist)

UK, Ireland / What do Polish people think about Wales and Welsh people? [191]

Interesting word-twist. I am glad that there are at least every now and then some creative ppl on this forum.

M-G

News / Polish Immigrants Leave America for Europe [210]


There is a contradiction in that sentense somewhere....

A) If they are struggeling to become legal immigrants then they are there on a limited-time visa, so they had to leave anyway - it is hard for EVERYBODY to become a legal immigrant in the US, not only for Polish ppl.

B) Isn't wanting to have a good job and earning a very good living a form of materialism?

C) Ah, there it is, the contradiction: Promising employment, read: something much better than the odd waitress or busboy... On one hand they despise the American materialism on the other hand they want to be part of it. My best guess is that once they are in the circle of promising employment-opportunities, they will not despise American materialism anymore. Only those who have nothing despise materialism from the ones who can afford it. Funny how this disgust usually disappears very quickly once one also is able to afford to buy loads of stuff you do not really need.

Do they expect to get so much better jobs in Ireland, the UK, Holland or Sweden? With the odd exception, if they have no mentionable education, they will have to do the same sh*tty jobs they're doing in the US. Only difference is that they do not have to apply for a visa.

M-G (realistic)

News / Polish Immigrants Leave America for Europe [210]


That is actually true: if you want to make it in the US, there is nothing put in your way. Whereas in Europe it is virtually nowhere allowed to have 5 (!) jobs at the same time and/or to work for seven days a week, in America this is allowed. Not that I would want to work for seven days, but it's still possible. You can reach great heights over there. Downside however, is that if you do NOT make, because of bad luck or illness or whatever, they don't care about you either. Simple illustration is the number of homeless ppl compared to the number of rich ppl. Often they're only seperated from each other by just a few streets.

M-G (still realistic)

News / Polish Immigrants Leave America for Europe [210]


the UK, Sweden and Holland do have good health insurances - the one in Ireland is neglectable.

And Moksha: if you want security, you better not go to the US. Everyone knows that there is no such thing as security in that country. I'm not defending the US, but I'm just being realistic here: if you don't work hard over there you will not make it. If you do work hard there and you get sick, you will not make it. And I know this last example first hand from a relative of mine.

M-G (more realistic)

History / Polish hatred towards Jews... [1290]


That's actually not a story, but a remark from a German priest, not a Polish one, forgot his name, I believe it was Niemann or something like that. Anyway, it was a remark to illustrate the attitude of the Church during the Holocaust.

M-G

UK, Ireland / What do Polish people think about Wales and Welsh people? [191]

The Welsh beat the Irish last Saturday - therefore I don't like them anymore.

M-G (go Ireland)

Love / The age of consent in Poland is only 15 [147]


In Britain, Holland and Ireland it is 12, it seems.

M-G

History / Polish hatred towards Jews... [1290]

When the Nazis came for the communists,
I remained silent;
I was not a communist.

When they locked up the social democrats,
I remained silent;
I was not a social democrat.

When they came for the trade unionists,
I did not speak out;
I was not a trade unionist.

When they came for the Jews,
I remained silent;
I wasn't a Jew.

When they came for me,
there was no one left to speak out.

M-G (All victims? Then the number must be 55 Million, of which 6 Million Jews, 1 Million Poles, 20 Million Russians and 1 Million Gypsies)

History / Polish hatred towards Jews... [1290]

I think I'll make espana Minister of Tourism of Bratwurstania.

M-G

History / Lwów, Wilno ... kresy - Poland have lost enormoust part of our heritage... [389]

This reminds me of that old Alexander Patton song from way back in 1965, "Make the best of what you got":

Life is a good thing
children, if you just try to make
the best of what you got

M-G (stop whining about the past and look towards the future. The past is limited, the future infinite)

History / Lwów, Wilno ... kresy - Poland have lost enormoust part of our heritage... [389]


I think having 6 million of your ppl killed for no other reason than that they are what they are is of an entirely different dimension than losing some cities, how painful that may be.

I don't sympathise with the Germans, I only wanted to state that all ppl have their dark pages and to deny it or defend it as being "just" only makes it worse. I do not condone any atrocities committed to ppl, no matter who it is that commits them. I do not condone what the Dutch did in Atjeh, I do not condone what the Russians did to the Poles, I do not condone what the Germans did to loads of ppls and I do not condone what the Poles did after the war to the Germans living in territories that were as of then Polish. Reactions immediately after the war are understandable, but they should not take too long and definitively not still being defended 60 years on. Instead you should say: ok, it happened and we are not proud of it, but it happened. That would be the just thing to say.


Well, what is stopping them? They're part of the strongest economic bloc in the world and starting to enjoy all the benefits that come with being part of the EU. Let's leave the past the past. You don't need to forget, but you need to forgive. If forgiveness is a stranger to ppl, future wars are born and the world will still be the same old sh*tty place it has always been. Have we ppl not learned from past mistakes?

And: I did critisize Bratwurst for doing that. Apparently you did not notice that.

M-G

Life / What is going on in Polish Music [128]

This afternoon I saw a poster in a windowshop of a Polski Sklep announcing the arrival of a band called Pank Lady in Dubs. Apparently they are very popular in Poland.

M-G

Life / What is going on in Polish Music [128]

Hey, I just saw it in a flash when I was passing by. I am totally not familiar with the Polish music-scene. They all have weird names anyway :)

M-G (what the hell is he singing about? Half English, half Polish something about a girl who thinks she's tough but she is not, minus zero?)

Study / Academy of Fine Arts - Poznan "SPOT" [6]


Huh? My new home? Did I miss something? Am I moving to Poznan without being informed of this? Are the movers coming this Monday?

M-G (surprised)

History / Polish hatred towards Jews... [1290]

No, growing up as inheritor of a great-grandfather who founded one of the biggest companies in the world is fun. My parents didn't have that much dough to bake, but still had the status. This meant that I had to do loads of things that I did not want to do. I had to go horse riding. And I don't like horses. I had to join a hockey club. I do not like hockey, I do not like the ppl at a hockey club. And when you proclaim you're Dutch, they say you're a Jew, even though I'm only half Jewish. So it's off to the Synagogue every freaking Saturday. I do not fancy churches. Although I liked the singing. I had a Bar-Mitzwa. Even though I had no clue what it was about and only knew that my friends were playing football and I wanted to be there with them, but I could not because it was my bloody Bar-Mitzwa and they were not invited because they were Protestant. So I got to meet all kinds of ppl whom I never saw before in my entire life, wishing me well and all that Jazz. So. That's the rant for today :)

M-G (new song on MySpace!)

History / Polish hatred towards Jews... [1290]


You already knew that I liked mr Dimucci :)


Well, I think it's actually a pretty good creation this time. Could be doing something...Considering I only wrote it during one night of frustration :)

And Anna Extra-Terrestrial: my parents were not disenfranchised, they just had the bad luck that some money wasting idiot was before them. But I managed to get things back on track anyway :)

M-G

Love / Polish girls, how are they when they are in love? [86]

Not quite. Had quite some interaction with the subject. However, she turned into a party whore, once drunk and that kinda turned me off. What even turned me off more was the fact that she seems to be proud of it as well. So I told her to go to hell. Unfortunately she did not accept this and now she is on the phone every other day, sending me texts and mails, whereas she has never done that before the entire year. Some Polish girls are strange, like any other girls, this one is VERY strange. But I always seem to come across girls like that anyway.

Thanks, Seanus :)

M-G (maybe something from a past life?)

Love / Polish girls, how are they when they are in love? [86]

Hm, maybe I was a womanizer in a previous life? Who knows :))

But it just doesn't make sense at all. Once I tried to approach her she was all like: "you're just a friend and I do what I want, so if I kiss a guy at a party then that is my own business" (on other occasions she would tell me, either drunk or not drunk that I was her best boyfriend ever:) ) At the meantime though, she kept telling me not to kiss other girls :S

Now I am not that desperate that I need a drunk sl*t at some party in order to get my kisses or more. And I just don't respect drunk sl*ts, no matter how decent they may be when not drunk. That just seems like they are not being themselves when they are sober and I don't like fake ppl. Besides that, I think those party whores don't respect themselves as well.

And now that I don't approach her anymore, she keeps coming back to me like I said. And she's coming back hard. I think she's a bit of a controlfreak, I can tell you stories of the experiences of friends with Polish girls which would make you shiver.

I will give you a nice example in the next posting. Just not putting it in here as it would become a very long posting, which it was not intended to be.

M-G (Aquarian-blues: Aquarians love freedom above all and does not want to be controlled by others, but at the same time love to control the partner or friend and restricting their freedom)