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Ironside   
25 Nov 2012
Love / Polish couples living out of wedlock? [108]

Please don't hate me for that. I just couldn't leave it.

Quite all right:)
As I said if I'm not focusing I do have problems with articles:) Always had
somehow I cannot be bother to correct my lingo on PF! Maybe I should
Ironside   
25 Nov 2012
News / €80 billion for Poland new EU budget [166]

I'm not saying the EU is perfect (the amount of money French farmers get is outrageous and indefensible) but as a mechanism for Poland to grow into a really important nation, it's better than "going it alone".

So what are talking political economy!
If Poland will not get a better deal in the EU then only choice for her would be growing into a really important nation outside the EU.
Ironside   
25 Nov 2012
News / €80 billion for Poland new EU budget [166]

Yes, Poland has money for SOME highways. Enough for 28% of them.

I'm sure Poland could find money for more! Buying Expensive war planes and taking a part in the war is costly. As costly as selling out Polish owned companies and give bank sector into foreign hands.

so all the South-East can carry on being unemployed because there are no industries down there (because there is no infrastructure to serve them).

Depending on foreign investments is not a way to build prosperous economy. Foreign investments can only supplement local development.

and Poland gets new industries, more jobs,

Name few!
Ironside   
25 Nov 2012
News / €80 billion for Poland new EU budget [166]

What industry. Please name me one functioning Polish industry which was destroyed after 2004?

I said 15 years prior to 2004!
I could find few destroyed or taken over after 2004 but I do not keep its list ready. If I will ever collect the data I will remember your request.

Without subsidies, how is a farmer supposed to plough his field with half a tractor? How do schools teach with only half a textbook, or with half a classroom? Do we only build half a power station to power half the factories half the time? Sure, with the end result that workers get, you guessed it, half their pay!

So you are saying that Poland was an empty field before EU?
Investment on infrastructure,meaning building roads! You have money to build 10 000 kilometers of highways, the EU give monies on another 10 000 kilometers. Well without EU founds you can still build 10 000 kilometers of highways . Correct me if I'm wrong!

As for the rest of your examples = are you telling me that EU is funding everything in Poland?
Ironside   
25 Nov 2012
News / €80 billion for Poland new EU budget [166]

his is one of the most astoundingly dense statements I've read in a long time. With that grasp of economics, no wonder you "think" Poland would be fine without the EU.

Do you which to add something? Like your brilliant grasp of economic to explain why I'm wrong?
Ironside   
25 Nov 2012
Love / Polish couples living out of wedlock? [108]

OH? I'm not! I say do not ever emulate my English on PF!
I like to play a little! Like in saying - barking up the wrong tree! Barking at the wrong tree is not saying anymore but correct expression, yet everyone would assume that you got it wrong :) harmless....

I'm stuck with a flu! Should be I'm sick with a flu:) but I think a first example is more telling:)
Ironside   
25 Nov 2012
History / Memos show US hushed up Soviet crime against Poland [97]

Your post is not in the slightest bit related to this topic and you are clearly trying to engage people in discussion about the content of your post. Your account should be suspended.

Do you have anything to say about the USA gov hushing up Soviet crime? You needed bother bring into it Jews! Your pro Soviet and anti-Jewish stance is well known! PF do not need racists and commies to tell them what whats.
Ironside   
25 Nov 2012
Love / Polish couples living out of wedlock? [108]

hat do you think of Polish couples living in sin, bringing out-of-wedlock babies into the world and not even bothering to baptise them?

Well if they are living without marriage I think it is good they do not even bother to baptize them. What would be the point?

Again some posters are maliciously taking this thread off-topic bringing some made up examples of supposed discrimination. I think that mods should react.
There are usual throng of anti-religious nutters and some empty headed and sure footed soldiers of tolerance ! comical!
I guess it was always like that - few people grueling to and forth over some issues and each of them is backed by supporters, armed with pitchforks and torches ready to sprang at their opponents throat.

Somehow on PF those pro-religious are less aggressive at least.:)
Ironside   
25 Nov 2012
Food / How common GMO Food in Poland is? [25]

What's wrong with Poland?!

I keep telling you but you rather listen to pawian and such......... phew!
Ironside   
25 Nov 2012
News / €80 billion for Poland new EU budget [166]

Anybody who drives on the roads, uses public transport, farms food or is in any way affected by the huge infrastructure funding

Really? Isn't Poland suppose to put on the table half of the sum and EU puts other half? I would say cut investment by half and vole - no EU funding is needed.

Farms food?Actually farmers are being pay not to produce any food.
What infrastructure and public transport? Do you think Poland couldn't afford those o her own?Think again!

(of which Poland is the largest net recipient) benefits.

at the moment ? Maybe she is maybe she isn't, Poland pay in as well and I haven't sees any reliable financial diagram which would explain all those issues giving real figures.

Anyway pro-EU propaganda stressed above everything else that being member of the EU will make @Poland economically on par with France or Germany - what is stopping them?

Very much so.

I will repeat myself for your benefit - Polish gov is sponsored by the west! Anything Poland got she paid for it, no free lunches. You forget that the price for EU membership was destroying Polish industry and opening Polish marked for international companies, nobody is doing it for charity.

After all, there wasn't exactly a thriving homegrown economy before.

For 15 years Poland was adjusting her economy to EU directives/ Anyway w2hat thriving economy is there now?
Ironside   
25 Nov 2012
News / €80 billion for Poland new EU budget [166]

Your thoughts?

Only gov benefits from EU, its helps them remain in power.

Simply as that: Poland (government + citizens) have to understand that they cannot be sponsored by the West for ever and why should they???? If they want for instance extra metro lines and other infrustructures, they have to finance such expenses themselves (through tax and others).

Get real, Are you really saying that Poland is sponsored by the west? Take cold shower and if that doesn't help bash your head few time against a solid brick wall.

Aren't Poles ashamed to be seen as "beggars"? Why can't they have some pride?

What about you French farmer, did you communicate to them a fact they are beggars?

EU funds have avoided Poland going into recession

No boom - no recension! The EU funds - a good one!

Also, as regards EU budget cuts, why don't they start with themselves: slim down the structures, boot half the eurocratsd out of Brussels and halve the salaries of those that remain

That what the EU is all about, they are supporting each other i.e eurocrats.
Ironside   
23 Nov 2012
History / Was Prussia mostly German? [65]

look 4freigner I don't want to offend you but I accept both, you seems not to see a difference between those texts or/and you think that "your" text is somehow response to "mine" text, maybe you feel that you contradict meaning of the text I quoted. NO!You are wrong on all counts.

I have been trying to be nice to you and to explain to you what whats - shortly because an poorly because it is only forum and I have problem with my sinuses at this time of a year.

If I have would wanted to be nasty or to show off - I would just type - So what?
Maybe I have to anyway because you are not getting my point!
So what that Plinius wrote something about Goths settlements along Wisla roughly 1000 years before Gdansk was founded?

What makes your post more credible than mine? I'll tell you what it is, one confirms what you've learned at school and what you want to believe and the other does not.

Sorry I didn't meant offend you! But If you ask me?:)
You don't know what your are talking about - sorry!
Ironside   
23 Nov 2012
News / Pokłosie - should the film have received funding from Polish state coffers? [37]

there is nothing sly about paying taxes in Poland Irons.

But it is sly to give you money gladly to see lies and propaganda blackening Poles when one is Ukrainian! I would think that you should come clean first in regard to Wolyn massacre perpetuated by your compatriots possibly kin. Remind me your standing while debating Wołyn massacre on PF? Didn't you sided with Nathan in denial?

how some Poles have a problem with remembering the darker parts of themselves.

What darker parts? Are you talking Star Wars here?Or you are being vulgar?

I see that you make no attempt at all to address the topic and instead focus your comment solely on me

Well Harry I have no choice but to focus on you because your preconceptions do not let get facts in the way. You are not responding to arguments and facts.

The fact is that blaming Jedwabne on Poles a political decision made for conception that Poles took part in Holocaust on the German side. From that wrong or malicious preconception spring all others.

OK! You want to debate facts lest go:
Tell-me how many victims were there in the Jedwabne case and manner of their death?

Even the Polish government agrees with that.

Oh dear? Did yo ask them? If their are guilty I would see them happy to go to jail where they belong.

Isn't it strange that the Poles who have abandoned Poland are the ones most likely to lie about the actions of Poles at Jedwabne?

Isn't that strange that some people without national attachment (or pretending to have none)cannot understand that attachment at all? Well - NO? Would that make them freaks?

On the other hand it maybe the case of pretending not to understand it, just to have yet another opportunity to focus on their opponent not the issue debated.
Ironside   
23 Nov 2012
History / Was Prussia mostly German? [65]

I though that I have made some valid point here:

Also idea of empire for tribes in the northern part of Europe at the time was an alien concept,something hated Rome would come up with. He wasn't been able to understand social stratification and reality there and a loose confederation of tribes named empire. German? Germanic would be correct name for all those tribes at the time.
There were not enough people to form any empire.

Not to mention rest of my post.:)
Are you a uni graduate?

It's perhaps worth defining Prussia - a vast area at its widest definition.

yep!
Ironside   
23 Nov 2012
History / Was Prussia mostly German? [65]

the only problem with is that if we dismiss Plinius, we have to also dismiss Socrates, Plato etc. etc. I'm not telling you what to believe, all I'm saying is that there are documents providing different information from what you know and accept,. that's all.

Not dismiss, you just ought to know-whats what:)

all I'm saying is that there are documents providing different information from what you know and accept,

proving what exactingly? Did you read my post ?

Does that have the slightest impact on what the status quo should be today any more than

Not I'm not arguing status quo!

In this thread we are debating :

Please explain how Prussia could have been legitimately considered to belong to the Polish Crown, surely it belonged to the original Prussians whom the Knights stole it from?

See some people do not realize that Prussia of Teutonic Order consisted not only from lands taken from OLD Prussians but also from land taken form the Polish Crown.
Ironside   
23 Nov 2012
History / Was Prussia mostly German? [65]

Other old historical documents already dated 78 b.c. from Plinius (lexicographer at that time) mention human settlements from Germans along the Vistula River - Wisla (Weichsel) near Gdansk. Plinus encyclopedia in 37 volumes prove this area along the Vistula river (Wisla)to be part of the former German empire (Magnia Germania).

In the time of Plinius distances were bigger, they also believed that if you go far enough you can encounter one eyed monsters, Also idea of empire for tribes in the northern part of Europe at the time was an alien concept,something hated Rome would come up with. He wasn't been able to understand social stratification and reality there and a loose confederation of tribes named empire. German? Germanic would be correct name for all those tribes at the time.

There were not enough people to form any empire.
Anyway it was 1000 years before Gdansk foundation, should Italian state have any claims to Istanbul because of Rome?
I don't doubt that at the time of Plinius there were Goths camping there but they have left no permanent settlements and definitely not any towns or cities latter renamed Gdansk, Gdansk was founded on virgin territory by Polish rulers. Goths picked up sticks and moved everywhere else 600 years earlier;

All that is bedside the point, when in 1308 Teutonic Order traitorously garbed Gdansk it was for all proposes and ethnically Polish settlement.
Ironside   
23 Nov 2012
History / Was Prussia mostly German? [65]

By the name? anyway Goths were migrating everywhere, we cannot say hey it was Got-land because few squatters took a crap there.
Ironside   
22 Nov 2012
History / Was Prussia mostly German? [65]

Doubtless there is a historical action that grants West Prussia to Poland prior to the Teutonic Knights acquisition, its just that I cannot find it.

In the 13th century, the Pomerelian duchy was ruled by members of the Samborides, up until 1227 stewards for the Polish Piast kings and dukes. The stewards asserted their power from fortified strongholds. The major stronghold of the area was at the location of present-day Gdańsk's Old Town. The adjacent town developed from a market place of tradesmen and was granted Lübeck city rights by Duke Swietopelk II

The city of Danzig (Gdańsk) was captured by the State of the Teutonic Order on 13 November 1308, resulting in a massacre of its inhabitants and marking the beginning of tensions between Poland and the Teutonic Order. Originally the knights moved into the fortress as an ally of Poland against the Margraviate of Brandenburg. However, after disputes over the control of the city between the Order and the King of Poland arose, the knights murdered a number of citizens within the city and took it as their own. Thus the event is also known as Gdańsk massacre or Gdańsk slaughte

I hope that answers your question if not let me know.

The first written record thought to refer to Gdansk (Danzig) is the vita of Saint Adalbert. Written in 999, it describes how in 997 Saint Adalbert of Prague baptized the inhabitants of urbs Gyddannyzc, "which separated the great realm of the duke [i.e. Boleslaw the Brave of Poland] from the sea
Ironside   
22 Nov 2012
History / Was Prussia mostly German? [65]

When the Teetonic Knights invaded Prussia, they didnt find Poles but Old Prussians, a pagan peoples speaking thier own laungauge, the Polish Crown had been unable to conquer these people so what on earth gives Poland the right to claim its thier land, part of Poland, when there were allready another peoples living there who hadnt been conquered.

Well they invaded lands which belonged to Poles i.e. everything west of the river Wisła, including Gdansk.(see map).
And they were holding those land along with land which they took from OLD Prussians. After about 150 years, civil population under the rule of Teutonic Order rebelled and asked to be part of the Polish Kingdom. In ensuing war only so called Royal Prussia become province of the Crown(see map) - old Polish lands. Also Ermland become part of the Polish Kingdom but as province governed by Bishop.

Teutonic Order remained in the area around Königsberg.
After about 70 years the head of the order Albrecht Hohenzollern changed along with other knights religion. They become Protestants and he become Duke of Prussia. To do that he asked for protection of the Polish King and his uncle.

Thanks to protection of the Polish King the first in history Protestant state was born!
the Duke of Prussia made tribute and swore allegiance to King Sigismund I the Old in the Kraków's market square on 10 April 1525.

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He was granted a place in the Senate of the Polish Kingdom,being a part of said Kingdom, however he wasn't interested.
Interesting thought that state which was born thanks to the Polish Kingdom worked hard in later times to destroy said Kingdom and was successful.

Please explain how Prussia could have been legitimately concidered to belong to the Polish Crown, surely it belonged to the original Prussians whom the Knights stole it from?

Is my answer good enough for you?
Ironside   
22 Nov 2012
News / Pokłosie - should the film have received funding from Polish state coffers? [37]

I know more than enough about Polish history to spot your lies and to point them out to everybody. The problem you have is that while the lies of your ilk have been accepted for decades, now the truth finally has its boots on and is giving the tired lies of the Nazis and the Commies you love so much a damned good kicking. Keep on telling those lies, you only make yourself look more and more stupid.

Your every post shows clearly that you know as much as your preconceptions. You are waste of time - you know it all! The fact that you are know nothing except for your prejudices.

Me too:D

You are sly but it is old news. Ukrainian trait I would say.

The simple fact is that Poles carried out the Jedwabne massacre

nonsense!
Ironside   
22 Nov 2012
UK, Ireland / Domestic arguments caused by differences between Polish and English culture [109]

Oh, sorry, I forgot that you are such a pathetic failure you can't afford to eat in places which have pepper grinders, let alone dream of having such a thing at home.

Well I still can afford cardboard box to sleep in - I'm so happy about it.

grinds * when turned in one direction and * when turned in the other direction.

See what I mean?
Ironside   
22 Nov 2012
News / Pokłosie - should the film have received funding from Polish state coffers? [37]

I'm neither bitter nor twisted nor sad. I have nothing to be sad or bitter or twisted about: life here is very good thanks, I have a job I like which pays me enough for me to never have to worry about money and I have a wonderful partner. Sorry for having to tell you that and thus adding yet more jealously to the bitterness which makes the sad pathetic life you have and hate so much even more unbearable.

Well Harry I don't hate you. I just don't like you. Not for any imaginable and unimaginable goodies or riches in your life but because of your views. You think that such movies (by the way have you seen it?) are good for Poland?I think not - that is just slander and propaganda - all based on imagination and confabulation? Such events never took place in Poland. You think that you know better and that makes you sad twisted and pathetic prick in my eyes and in the eyes of any honest man.

How nice of you to admit that the claim that Germans carried out the massacre in Jedwabne is nothing but a lie.

I was being sarcatic and you know it. Lie like in "lie"!!!!!!
Ironside   
22 Nov 2012
UK, Ireland / Domestic arguments caused by differences between Polish and English culture [109]

I am not going to finger point... you have to use your grey cells for that one :)

Have it your way but I will be not able to help you and you will see green eyed monsters when there are none.

nearly all new houses don't have a feed tank in the loft

Since when?

grinds ** when turned in one direction and ** when turned in the other direction.

Taking about yourself again Harry?
Ironside   
22 Nov 2012
News / Pokłosie - should the film have received funding from Polish state coffers? [37]

yes, I rather have the money spend on such film, then on some useless stuff the Polish administration spends it on.

I would rather see that money spend on some movie about Wolyn massacre( tell me aphro are Ukies still see themselves as victims?) or some decent movie about WWII heroes fighting against Soviets.
Ironside   
21 Nov 2012
UK, Ireland / Domestic arguments caused by differences between Polish and English culture [109]

When I threw him out he was a very SORE ASS too!

Now you are bragging lol!

Your just being typically Polish

Really? Whats that?

Sorry you can't your Polish and its impossible to see your own imperfections.

How would you know? I mean you are taking here a wild guess.