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Ironside   
18 Dec 2012
History / Was Prussia mostly German? [65]

I very much doubt that.

You can doubt that as much as you want but you are not in position to make comparisons.
Ironside   
16 Dec 2012
History / Was Prussia mostly German? [65]

Why?

Because he is not historian and he is writing rubbish, yet another political scientist and historical fiction-ist like Gross.

Do Poles have a monopoly on the "correct" version of Polish history?

Or rubbish, As to why, you don't ask me. Experience though me that this pretty much the way it is!
Poles are most objective in their dealing with history. Don't ask me why!
The distant second are Americans probably because you can find there anything so you can also find very good and objective works dealing with American history.
Ironside   
15 Dec 2012
History / Was Prussia mostly German? [65]

Stefan Wolff is a German political scientist.

Yet another one writing about historical issues,#somebody should really oppress his dumb-ass!
Ironside   
15 Dec 2012
News / March for Poland's democracy organized by PiS 13th Dec [49]

If you belive that, you'll believe anything.

Come on, do you really believe that PiS is about totalitarianism? LMAF!

This is the guy who went into a coalition with politicians who openly admire General Franco.

Who?
The only reason they could have admire Franco was the fact the he stopped Soviet Revolution in Spain!
Ironside   
15 Dec 2012
History / Was Prussia mostly German? [65]

If you could be bothered to read history books on the subject, you would discover that some now Polish areas interpreted their governments hostility to Prussians to include violence and even murder.

Maybe, what of it?

But oh no, unlike every other people of the Earth, the Polish could never do anything bad eh?

I think your family grudge is blinding you, you shoudl always look for a contexts.

One side of my family lost a house and all possessions with no compensation, the other side a complete Horse farm.

Any prove or just stories told to children!?

One side

You haven't proved that anybody has been expelled form Poland after WWI!
Ironside   
15 Dec 2012
History / Was Prussia mostly German? [65]

Anyway I see Iam wasting my time here arguing with people so desperate to retain their blinkered view

You have blinkering view because Germans were no expelled from Polish territories after WWI! The fact they left do not mean they have been expelled!
Ironside   
15 Dec 2012
News / March for Poland's democracy organized by PiS 13th Dec [49]

gladly, the fact they are against current establishment in Poland do not mean they are about to establish totalitarianism regime in any shape or from. Such claims are only made by the leftie barmy nutters and those whose life-hood depends on keeping status quo intact. I can understand why foreigners with liberal/leftie sympathies are buying it all including hooves, but it doesn't make it true.
Ironside   
15 Dec 2012
History / Was Prussia mostly German? [65]

German minorities in what became Poland made 10,000 complaints t

Meaning German colonist paid by German gov to settled in on the Polish land. After Poland regained Independence it surly become problem. It is not as Germans born and living on said lands become problem.
Ironside   
13 Dec 2012
News / PiS wants symmetry for minorites living in Poland [71]

Agency are there to protect children.

That would be only your onion you don't know whether or not their action are justified and legal. Evidently that institution need to be scrutinized. If they are blames and working just fine that scrutiny will not harm them if they are even one case where their failed to provide justices or harmed children, that is one case too many. Your defense of said institution is sad example that you would rather trust bureaucracy than people.What do you fail to understand?
Ironside   
12 Dec 2012
News / How much Poland's economy grew up since 1989? [32]

Tosh. Most of he ones that weren't taken over and dragged kicking and screaming into the modern world failed.

lol!

You do know what GDP is about? Or do you?

do you?
q:

Vlad123:
how much Polish manufacturing/agricultural output grew up since 1989?

GDP do not answer his question does it?

He apparently has no clue, but plenty of opinions to back it up.

Do you have a clue? If you do, explain to me in what way GDP answer ]Vlad123: qestion or for ever hold your breath!
na: The total market value of all final goods and services produced in a country in a given year, equal to total consumer, investment and government spending, plus the value of exports, minus the value of imports.

Do you understand it?
Ironside   
12 Dec 2012
News / How much Poland's economy grew up since 1989? [32]

GDP is the sum, total of EVERYTHING made and produced in Poland, GDP=Gross Domestic Product measured in USD.

The total market value of all final goods and services produced in a country in a given year, equal to total consumer, investment and government spending, plus the value of exports, minus the value of imports.

It doesn't answer the OP qestion! That particular qestion about production!
Given the fact that gov spends a lot of money on bureaucracy and a fact many services didn't existed before 1989, what Poland produces is a darn a good qestion!

Polands economy has grow about 400% since 1989, from less than 100billion to 500billion dollars (2011 dollars)

Really?

I would recommend acquiring "rocznik statystyczny". It's available online as well.

That more like it! However I don't really care but OP could use it to his benefit!
What I would like-to see however - a book presenting step by step transformation in Polish economy from 1989 to about 2000, giving examples of closed factories and what was there to replace it!

Can you count to 5, Ironside or should I explain that?

Can you?
Ironside   
11 Dec 2012
News / PiS wants symmetry for minorites living in Poland [71]

That parts of the Polish media and certain politicians are pointing the finger at Germany is simply hypocritical.

There is about 200 complains pending on the German institution, not only from Poland but from all over Europe!
#what about your standing on the issue?

The point the finger everywhere except at home where the problem lies.

yeah yeah Poland is the worst!
Do you even know what this thread is about?
Ironside   
11 Dec 2012
News / PiS wants symmetry for minorites living in Poland [71]

Thats just one of your childish tactics.
There is simply no fruitful talk possible with you and so i will stop.

silly man those are clearly quotes from the internet source I provided link to! Those are not my words and I wasn't sure about that territorial limitation of minority rights thingee otherwise I wouldn't asked you about that. What is that you don#t understand?

I asked you that qestion and several posts latter I checked that and to your credit you were telling the truth!
However Poles in Germany base their claim to minority status on the EU law in this regard.

Because not all Poles in Germany are recent immigrants1

As For Germans in Poland - they were allowed to stay after WWII b it on them claiming to be ethnic Poles or at least locals not Germans. So in fact if not for good will of Poland they could be refused minority's right because progeny of ethic Poles or indigenous population of Opole living in Poland cannot become overnight ethnic Germans.

If preventing someone from using his native language is done with the intent to deny him his human rights, I would wholeheartedly agree with you, but this was definitely not the case here.

If such institution would be working basing their decision on courts orders it would#t be so bad. At least that suspicion towards parents would have same substance, however seems to me (from what /i remember) that that institution is making their own rules as it goes!

Preventing criminal to communique with his children unchecked is one thing, preventing a prevent who fell with his wife is yet another!

especially given their history - deserve that.

Who is being stuck in the past? I think that there mental barrier here! That is just rhetoric and most people know it! Majority of Polish politicians are just shady and that is result of events occurred in the past i.e. history!

Polish people are really traumatised by history and recently by so called transformation as well - it just big mess!
Ironside   
11 Dec 2012
News / PiS wants symmetry for minorites living in Poland [71]

I have no idea

partly the Polish immigrants in Ruhr area (see Ruhr Poles)

Because not all Poles in Germany are recent immigrants1

Link me to that significant number of ethnic Poles in Germany.

The EU is not about significant numbers, Germans in Poland ado not constitute significant number and yet they are being pampered.

The descendants of the Ruhr Poles in particular meet all international requirements for being considered an ethnic minority in Germany. Yet such recognition has not been forthcoming.

A very good article about Poles in Germany:
ruf.rice.edu/~sarmatia/401/212schlott.html
Ironside   
11 Dec 2012
News / How much Poland's economy grew up since 1989? [32]

Why baseless/ do you have any data to the contrary? If not I can call your statements baseless with impunity.

Polish manufacturing/agricultural output grew up since 1989?

I have provided correct answer to that qestion, unfortunately I don't have any statistic at my disposal.
So far all of you haven't been abler to answer the OP qestion.
instead you all are talking on how ineffective communist's factories were - i disagree but it is not the subject of this thread!
If you can provide an opinion or a sources on quantity factories production than you are game, if not you are off-topic - as usual!
Ironside   
11 Dec 2012
News / How much Poland's economy grew up since 1989? [32]

Are you claiming that Poland produces more than in 1989.

And the source in Christian Science Monitor. :D

Economy had nothing to do with it! Politics at play that all!

Why you all so defensive? I have only answered his qestion!
Ironside   
11 Dec 2012
News / PiS wants symmetry for minorites living in Poland [71]

There are many more "creditable" sources.

thanks!
However it is not simple:

Despite the war ended in 1945, the German government never cancelled the Nazi regulations outlawing the union and denying Poles living in Germany their minority rights, and despite being now a signatory to the Framework Convention for the Protection of National Minorities, continues to deny them.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Union_of_Poles_in_Germany
Ironside   
11 Dec 2012
News / PiS wants symmetry for minorites living in Poland [71]

You mean their minority status was limited to certain territories? Would you care to provide sources to back up your claim?

The Germans have lived on that soil for a long time (unlike the newly-transplanted Poles on German soil)
and their status in Poland is inherently different than the Polish immigrants'.

I don't like your attitude, after all American claims to western states is only 60 years older! Would newly translated Americans pack their rug-sacks and scram?

Some of you make it somehow fault of Poland! It was Germany who attacked Poland not other way around!

The courts have decided that the guy has to be supervised by a case worker when visiting his children.

There must be more cases like that otherwise there wouldn't be Society aimed to help with problems created by that German institution!
Are you sure that a court is involved? I have a distant impression they are capable of taking action without court's involvement.

How is the case worker supposed to understand what the father is telling his kids when he doesn't speak Polish?

I don't know, educate himself, record it, hire somebody who understand Polish? It is not my problem!

So simply because the father has a mighty chip on his shoulder and refuses to speak German

You are talking abut one case, there is possible cases when parent can communicate better in his/her native language!

I would understand, but since he is fluent I couldn't care less about him. Pole or not - he's just a d*ckhead who is pulling the racism/ Nazi card because he can't get his way.

I don't care about Nazi thing, but about the fact that parents are forbidden to speak to their child in their own language! I would oppose such infringement of the natural human right regardless of nationality involved!!

I was referring to Marysienka's "We Poles have this fear" statement, which is something irrational from a long gone past.

some people think that French and surrender are interchangeable words and Germans have cool Nazi uniforms and want to take over their country with a pen! So what?

You take her statement as at its face value whereas it is only generalisation. Although given history Pole s have every right to be suspicious!
Ironside   
11 Dec 2012
News / How much Poland's economy grew up since 1989? [32]

No, GDP is hugely up.

He didn't ask about GDP! He asked about things that are made and produced in Poland and those are significantly less.

Perhaps you'd prefer to return to factories producing things that nobody wants to buy and staying open even if they make a loss.

Perhaps you would like to tell me what I think or what I should think - ain't happening!
Not all factories were like that, not even majority and given proper care and time to readjust would be able to compete on the world market no bro! Fairy stories fed to masses you can put into a tin can and label it - do not open for Ironside!
Ironside   
11 Dec 2012
News / PiS wants symmetry for minorites living in Poland [71]

And why would Hamburg be obliged to provide a translator or translation service for every freakin' nationality in the city

He and his children didn't need services of translator! It was for benefit of overpaid undereducated pen pusher ...

It did happen in the past and now PIS has something to play with.

they just try to move people with only one tool they have = "patriotic" cattle prod ! If people behave like a cattle ....

In their minds, some Poles seem to have never left the 1930's and 1940's...

The fact that parent cannot communique with his child in his own language is just a detail not worthy of attention according to you! Also you seems to suffer with gold fish syndrome and repeat the same cliché.
Ironside   
10 Dec 2012
News / PiS wants symmetry for minorites living in Poland [71]

. The whole point is that Wojciech Pomorski insists to speak Polish while Hamburg argues that

It Is evidently not only about him!

while Hamburg argues that - given the large number of different nationalities in the city - it is impossible to provide a Polish speaking case worker just for him to supervise the visit with his children.

Simple solution - record their conversation and then find translator in their own time - if there is any inappropriate stuff in what a parent say then and only then they shoudl be able make him speak in German to the kid!

It is mind bugling bureaucratic and discriminatory BS - some pen pusher dictate parent in what language he/she can speak to his/her own child! WTF? Predicable you see nothing wrong with that
Ironside   
10 Dec 2012
News / PiS wants symmetry for minorites living in Poland [71]

Dude, i have been living in Germany for a long time, one would think that i have a slightly better understanding of how things work here...

Do you now? Have you ever had to deal with said institution? As a parent?

OMFG. Yeah, you provided ONE link and claimed its happening on a large scale.

I provided with link to International Society against Discrimination of Children in Germany of which society Polish Parents in Germany is part!
existence of said societies is prove in itself than the institution in Germany is not working as well and smooth as you claim! I;m sure if you explore said link you will find evidence a plenty!

Why, uncomfortable?

No, off-topic!