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jonni   
29 Jan 2011
History / In a German encyclopedia Poland is represented as: [30]

Encyclopedia Dramatica

Is sometimes wickedly funny and sometimes (especially the road accident pictures) spectacularly bad taste. But they don't treat Poland worse or better than anywhere else. Access is banned in a lot of countries, but fortunately the PiS ("there is no free press in Poland") regime was removed from office before they could start blocking websites.
jonni   
28 Jan 2011
Real Estate / Poland Notary Agreement after a purchase of a property - very expensive! [14]

Theoretically, it's for the foreigner's protection

That's quite sensible, though the reality is that in criminal cases at court, where people's liberty can hang in the balance, they aren't obligatory; but when buying a few shares in a Sp. z o.o. they are.
jonni   
28 Jan 2011
Real Estate / Poland Notary Agreement after a purchase of a property - very expensive! [14]

Well, AFAIK travel time IS included in sworn interpreting. OK, this particular person lived nearby - but imagine travelling one hour there and one hour back (in Warsaw for example, if you live in the suburbs), effectively wasting two hours of potential work elsewhere.

Travelling from Zoliborz on the tube is one thing, travelling from her location of choice is quite another. I get travelling money every few weeks, at a set amount. I can live wherever, but anything above my allowance is my look-out.

The time someone became a sworn translator is neither here nor there. I am a "PRL-trained" translator myself and I don't think I turned out half bad.

The fail rate is much higher since they changed the exams, according to a friend (a language lecturer (not English) at UJ, who recently passed on his third attempt.

Your spoken English, however, if it's anything like your written English, is probably excellent. If I'd been using this forum in those days, I'd rather have PM'd you and asked for a recommendation rather than use the notariusz's buddy.

Simultaneous - WOW. My hat is off to you, sir. My brain is not up to that kinda stuff, I am only capable of consecutive interpreting.

I'm the other way round. It's as if the words pass through me like a river. Tiring though after a short while, whereas at a meeting recently where they were stopping every 30 secs or so for the translation I had a really hard time. My tiny memory can only hold three main points at the same time before overflowing. :-)

Don't ever put that in quotes! It is a profession and a very difficult one at that. You should know, if you've done it yourself.

Yes. The inverted commas were specifically about this lady. She was professional only in her fees. It can be a wonderful job, and people like that old trout (a relic of the days when the zloty was weak and most foreigners were comparatively rich and fair game to be overcharged, like Istanbul taxi drivers do today), can give the rest a bad name.

BTW - lots of you guys complain about sworn translators, but do you ever do anything about it?

The big problem is that we're forced to have them at all. A friend who works as an interpreter between English and Polish at the European Commission registered a company for something not long ago. He still had to pay a sworn translator! A British person with a Polish grandpa and passport who only speaks English, however....
jonni   
28 Jan 2011
Real Estate / Poland Notary Agreement after a purchase of a property - very expensive! [14]

She lived a short walk away in the centre of Warsaw (and insisted I pay for a taxi too!). And why should the client pay for her commuting expenses, especially in the Central Business District of a city. One with a metro too.

She hardly opened her mouth anyway, since her translation was so bad and her accent so strong that it was much easier to listen to the notariusz read out the original. The exams for her 'profession' used to be much easier than they are now, and I suspect she trained back in the PRL. I sometimes work as a simultaneous translator (in both directions) and do it much better myself. A complete rip-off since I didn't need it but under Polish law still had to pay the fat old scam-artist to be there.
jonni   
28 Jan 2011
Real Estate / Poland Notary Agreement after a purchase of a property - very expensive! [14]

Notaries are the biggest racket going

Almost. The sworn translators that they demand you have, even if you speak fluent Polish, are a bigger racket. Their tariff is fixed by law, but some of them still insist on billing a minimum of three hours for ten minutes' work
jonni   
28 Jan 2011
News / Pubs in Poznan kick out Roma? [256]

I read this yesterday (after watching the Channel 4 documentary) and learnt quite a lot. Worth reading.

travellerstimes.org.uk/website/About-Us/Gypsies-and-Travellers%3f.htm
jonni   
26 Jan 2011
Law / Online Polish banking (in English) [27]

Alior are good, but I prefer Nordea. They have an English version of their website and are generally cheap and efficient.
jonni   
24 Jan 2011
Life / Support wanted to stop the sale of live carp in Poland [74]

Ridiculous? This forum is about Poland. Live carp are sold (and appallingly mistreated) in Poland and neighbouring countries. So 'ignoring' bullfights in Spain, dog skinning in China or pig sticking wherever they do that is entirely appropriate.

And buying a live fish, sticking it in a carrier bag then either beating it to death or dropping it in a bath that's cleaned daily with Cif etc is something that should be stopped now.
jonni   
24 Jan 2011
Life / Support wanted to stop the sale of live carp in Poland [74]

So you're saying that it's alright to sell live carp in Poland because some other countries do some worse things?

Not very clever...

By the same logic, presumably you think it's OK for someone to kill 35 people at Moscow airport because thousands have been killed in other attacks elsewhere.
jonni   
13 Jan 2011
Work / Advice for a worried English stranger / Native speaker who wants to move to Poland [23]

Is there any hope ?

Yes.
You're obviously used to studying and seem to take it seriously, an enormous advantage. The key skill with teaching English isn't an exhaustive knowledge of the terminology and metalanguage, it's an ability to help your students learn - to make sure they leave the classroom with something new that they can use.

You shouldn't feel that a lack of appreciation of grammar is a weak point - in fact the reverse can be true - your students want to understand the meaning of something, not be blinded with jargon. Your role as a teacher is more about getting them speaking.

Harry's advice is good - get a CELTA.
jonni   
13 Jan 2011
UK, Ireland / Poles living in the UK returning home or not? [63]

How many Poles have been beaten up and killed in Britain as a result of hate propaganda carried out by the psychopaths from the Daily Mail, Daily Express, the Sun, and similar filth?

Go on then, how many?
jonni   
13 Jan 2011
USA, Canada / Things that Polish-American should know about Poland. [168]

Nice save but too late.

Because as usual you're cruising the forum with your finger ready to flick the button (you're evidently used to doing it fast) and argue. You must have a boring life.
jonni   
13 Jan 2011
USA, Canada / Things that Polish-American should know about Poland. [168]

Would you attack a Québecois because his French differs from that of the ancestral motherland or that Mexican food differs from what is genrally eaten in Spain?

Exactly - traditions form, as languages evolve, due to a whole host of reasons, each version is equally valid - though one will always be the mainstream.
jonni   
12 Jan 2011
USA, Canada / Things that Polish-American should know about Poland. [168]

The Old World (PRL and post-PRL) version of Polish is a language which consists of a vocabulary mangled and twisted through time

You can't freeze a language in time any more than you can stop history. And isn't it a bit arrogant to tell people in Poland what influences they should or shouldn't use in their everyday speech? They're speaking a living language, not a dead one. By the same logic, when would you stop? With the Polish as it was spoken 60 years ago? 150 years? 300 years? Hey, why not remove any changes that have been made since the time of Mieszko I?
jonni   
12 Jan 2011
News / Hydraulic Fracturing in Poland. [14]

It could very well pollute the watersheds with fracking chemicals used to break up the shale deep in the ground...

I can't see people allowing that without a big fight.
jonni   
12 Jan 2011
News / Polish cleaner blows the lid on 'dirty' Germans [124]

Back for more, it seems.

Erm...are you commie? Only those kind normally thinks of work as "exploitation"...

Actually communists only think work that people are denied the fruits of is exploitation, but never mind, having half her wage witheld certainly counts as being denied the fruits of labour.

You still haven't shown me one thing I've written that proves I have

anti-german prejudice

jonni   
12 Jan 2011
News / Polish cleaner blows the lid on 'dirty' Germans [124]

Yeah...what exploitation

only half her weekly wage on the kitchen table and a note which said: "Sorry, Justyna – short of cash."

So yes "mean Germans", as you call them, or not, that means exploitation.
jonni   
12 Jan 2011
News / Polish cleaner blows the lid on 'dirty' Germans [124]

Still unable to show me one thing I've written that proves I have

anti-german prejudice

And there are still so many Polish expats who are being exploited and mistreated in wealthier countries. At least one one of them has managed to get a book published about it.
jonni   
12 Jan 2011
News / Polish cleaner blows the lid on 'dirty' Germans [124]

We really seem to have communication problems!

More likely that you have comprehension problems, or just dislike reading a Pole's point of view about her experiences in your country!

When you post an article full of demeaning anti-german stuff and then support this article blindly and still try to sell us that you don't harbor any prejudices yourself - that get's surreal, really! :)

Do you think a Polish cleaner's stories about her experiences are

demeaning anti-german stuff

?
So go on then, show me one thing I've written that proves I have

anti-german prejudice

now it's getting dangerous BB :-)

Wait till I start saying 'darling' - that's when he should worry. ;-)
jonni   
12 Jan 2011
News / Polish cleaner blows the lid on 'dirty' Germans [124]

But you can only backpedal so much! ;)

So stop doing it, Sweetie!

Well..."sweetie" you opened this thread and set the tone. Don't blame others reacting to your ideas accordingly! You used the article and it's outspoken accusations clad in a story to support existing prejudices and found it all "quite telling".

Again, you miss the point. I posted an article from today's newspaper about a Pole who has written a book. You're the one who sees "existing prejudices". And yes the article is telling, given the employment experiences of Polish expats.

Next you will say we all suffer hallucinations

Only you, it seems. So go on then, show me one thing I've written that proves

anti-german prejudice

jonni   
12 Jan 2011
News / Polish cleaner blows the lid on 'dirty' Germans [124]

Choose one (or all)

Or none.

You're clutching at straws again. Quoting the headline of the newspaper article ("dirty") yet another time, as if I'm the journalist who wrote it.

Where the other two:

Mean tight arses

and

Discriminating poor Poles leftandright?

come from is anyone's guess. You really will have to try much harder.
jonni   
11 Jan 2011
News / Polish cleaner blows the lid on 'dirty' Germans [124]

Oooh you are wriggling about!

Wriggling? Hardly.

Just admit you thought this article supports your anti-german prejudices you already nurtured.
It's that easy! Chickenshit? :)

What "anti-german prejudices" might those be?
jonni   
11 Jan 2011
News / Polish cleaner blows the lid on 'dirty' Germans [124]

In various places - and yes, I do know a few Polish cleaners! The person who cleans my main home (who by the way is employed legally and paid above the going rate) has told me some horror stories about other people he cleans for.

However in Justyna's case, she's written a best-selling book about it.