Life / A rant about "patriotism" in today's Poland [60]


You know this describes A LOT of other people from other nations aside from those Polish, don't you?

Life / Poland needs more immigrants and their children - which nationalities are the best? [518]

Would it not be more to the benefit of Poles if those who control such things actually introduced bills (and enacted them) which made having children less of an economic deterrent?

NOOOOO, let's just import a bunch of people who couldn't care less about where they go as long as it's in Europe, yeah I'm sure that won't go t*ts up...

Life / Poles' atttiude towards broken Polish [9]

VERY PATIENT!

News / Will EURO 2012 be a proud moment for Poland and its people or set back Poland 20 years? [86]

For those of you who partake in Polish television, I have a question: Has there been a lot of media build-up to Euro 2012?
I'm not in any of the tournament cities so I can't say for certain but I have noticed a lack of hulabaloo surrounding the biggest sporting event to be held in this country.

Life / A new Poland's war - the poor vs the rich [81]


eh, is that really a fair statement?
Don't get me wrong, I know we have a different opinion on many things, I enjoyed reading your last post but the statement above seems,...i dunno like a convenient assumption:/


Where on earth did you come up with that? What do you define to be "rich?"
I ask because it's a term that means different things in different parts of the world and if we're talking about money rich then that amount is also a different thing in different places.

I realize many people do make donations here and there and something is better than nothing but you really got to weigh what "rich" people take from society vs what they give. How this could be measured would be under very intricate and objective criteria with access to very sensitive/confidential information.

I actually really liked reading your last post though, you seem to have....become more thoughtful...yeah I'm still a jerk.


Good point but I do recall reading about one fellow who went to school with Prince Charles as a boy, he in fact went to a pricier school later on when they went separate ways. He'd been homeless and selling the Big Issue for a while, when I read the story. I agree with you overall but you asked for an example:/

News / Don't go to Poland ... because you could end up coming back in a coffin [313]


ahhh the economists of the world, always armed with an idea beginning with "if." Who knows what would happen...somehow I doubt Nostradamus is on polishforums.com

Many things could happen but honestly, the apocalypse is upon us anyhow and it won't matter. How do I know? I have just realized I agree with Patrycja19...and not just a little bit.

Wow.

UK, Ireland / Mercy flight for dying Polish woman living in the UK [21]

i don't know how i feel about this, it's bitter-sweet. I hope the bitterness fades quickly, that boy is going to have a unique perspective on things and I hope it's for the better.

One of my closest friends lost his mother at a young age and as sad as it is, in some strange way, it appears to have helped shape him into one of the strongest, most resilient and thoughtful people I know. My hope is that this boy will be able to look at things constructively after the anger subsides.

Life / A new Poland's war - the poor vs the rich [81]

This is an old war imo.
Last time I checked (and things could be changing), worldwide stats showed the wealth the rich possess (and the rate at which it is gained) to be greatly out pacing the comparative wealth for the middle, lower and poor- worldwide.

The rich are able to suck the blood out of the economy- horde money. This would create inflation due to scarcity of currency. As long as people continue to spend then all is well, but if for whatever reason those who control the money decided to, they could seriously disturb A LOT of people. The less justice people think there is, the less peaceful they're willing to be.

*waits for contrarian mouthbreather to come and dismiss everything I've written.*

News / Don't go to Poland ... because you could end up coming back in a coffin [313]


You quoted my answer to your question before you asked it.

News / Don't go to Poland ... because you could end up coming back in a coffin [313]

What amazes me from half the people on this thread is their expectations.
What do you people expect Poles to do?
Hang their heads in shame and accept joint responsibility for hooliganism in Poland; admit that they are somehow collectively responsible for this?

Is that what you people do for all the wrongs that go on in the countries where you're from (born in for those of you who need that explained)? Whatever you expect from Poles in this is what you must honestly say you have done with the crime where you're from.

I keep reading things like:

oh this is head in the sand thinking

what goes on in the uk has nothing to do with this

the focus of the world is on Poland and Ukraine so this is important

The very fact that an Englishman commented on football crime/the lack of safety in Poland and the BBC running a hack job on this IMMEDIATELY makes relevant anything similar, as bad or worse that happens in the UK. IM-ME-DI-ATE-LY.

The Olympics are right around the corner and you've got to wonder at the motivation of the English focusing on issues abroad when they've got a much larger mess on the way.

News / Will EURO 2012 be a proud moment for Poland and its people or set back Poland 20 years? [86]

^Weren't you two agreeing on the same post on this very page?

News / Don't go to Poland ... because you could end up coming back in a coffin [313]


Actually it's you that's screwed...screwed up anyhow.
One of the strengths of Poland is that one can still be out and about and for better or worse everyone here is Polish. If you respect that and don't try to push your perceptions of multiculturalism (often confused with multi-ethnicism) on them then you too can enjoy safe streets (albeit in need of some fixing up).

I am beginning to doubt you've even attempted to acknowledge the cultural upheaval that happened in this country over the last century. It's no coincidence there's a lack of regional distinction here compared to France, Italy, Germany, etc. People like you demand Poles accept everyone who isn't Polish, that's fair to demand of Poles who live abroad. But no one has any right to tell Poles how they should or shouldn't regard those from other ethnicities and certainly anyone from as dangerous a place as the UK should have the good sense to keep their trap shut when it comes to condemning violence in a safer country than the one they live in.

Oh, I know, the violence Campbell was warning his fellow Brits against is racist, so to people like yourself, that somehow makes it worse. To those of us who can actually think for ourselves we know that less is more in this matter.

I am sure though, you will let none of these facts get in the way of trying force your sickness on the Poles. I wish you the worst of luck in that.

News / Don't go to Poland ... because you could end up coming back in a coffin [313]


Now you've reached the core of the problem. Congratulations, you're finally making some progress!

News / Poland's Economy Is No Joke [63]

Many of the doctors in the city hospital here have not been fully paid for months. The mismanagement (corruption, white collar theft if you will) within the health sector here is ingrained and it spits in the face of every tax payer here.

News / Don't go to Poland ... because you could end up coming back in a coffin [313]


Well then, if "the media" doesn't broadcast Olympic hooliganism or if you don't see it, then clearly there is no street violence in the UK.

Without "the media" telling you so, there are no stabbings, no murders, no rapes, no assaults, no thefts- none of those things can actually exist in your mind. And, even if they did, it wouldn't matter because it wouldn't be a product of racism.

Okay then, now I have a pretty good idea on what level you're operating.
I'll make sincere efforts to waste no more time on you.


The irony is, that the loads of problems people in the UK have should actually be their focus/concern and not Poland. But don't let logic get in the way of a witch hunt.

News / Don't go to Poland ... because you could end up coming back in a coffin [313]


What do you consider to be ducking the issue?
I gave Gustav e-kudos for pointing out the comparative safety one can enjoy in Poland compared to the UK, the place from where Campbell made his comments.

News / Don't go to Poland ... because you could end up coming back in a coffin [313]


Ah, so when the next stabbing victim in London falls to the pavement, it won't matter because the "eyes of the world" aren't on him (likely a him)?

The eyes of the world are looking for "racism" and they'll be damned if anything stops them from finding it. Never mind if it's in their own back yard or not, if they don't point their fingers at the Poles then what will they do? Fix their own problems? Pfft, yeah right.

News / Don't go to Poland ... because you could end up coming back in a coffin [313]


So the issue of violence is only an issue during major events then?

News / Don't go to Poland ... because you could end up coming back in a coffin [313]


I think this really misses the point people are making. Some guy living in a glass house ought to keep his little pile of stones untouched. There are plenty of things that people in the UK need to address in their own country so it would serve them better if they went about doing that instead of worrying about how Poles regard other ethnicities.

There is hardly any race related tension here compared to multi-ethnic countries. I know many, many people that have commented how safe it is here compared to multi-cultural havens so perhaps that is worth noting too.

News / Don't go to Poland ... because you could end up coming back in a coffin [313]


Yet peterweg responds in such a manner when others made comparisons to the UK which favored the Polish image:



This is such horsesh*t from the UK's PC squad. Poland is waaaaaaaay safer than the UK for most people.
There's plenty of places where it's safer not to be white, Poland is one of those places where it is.
Cry me f'n river and get over yourselves.

News / Don't go to Poland ... because you could end up coming back in a coffin [313]


Well then kindly shut up about it and direct your attention to something you feel is more worthy of your attention.
It is odd how people can so quickly criticize without realizing the irony in their words.

News / Don't go to Poland ... because you could end up coming back in a coffin [313]


Rubbish.
It has everything to do with Britain as it was a British man telling British people to avoid a country due to safety issues when it seems people in Britain should have more to be worried about in their country.

I thought you were all about stats?
Those stats don't seem to lend much credence to what Campbell had to say.

News / Don't go to Poland ... because you could end up coming back in a coffin [313]


perfect response.
I'd like to hear Campbell's reply

News / Poland's Economy Is Booming! The EU's Success Story? [711]

Well if GDP is high there must be a boom or something like, I suppose. Tell me, what exactly does having such a "boom" in a country translate to?

News / Poland's Economy Is Booming! The EU's Success Story? [711]


fair enough. Well that settles that, peterweg is experiencing a boom

News / Poland's Economy Is Booming! The EU's Success Story? [711]

^dude, you're calling people names when you just tried to e-slap WB for something similar. *Thanks for passing on the vote of confidence from politicians, they never get anything wrong.* Sorry for posting real events instead of copy and paste statistics- *I'm sure there's only one way to interpret statistics*

Some people don't view Poland as person and so GDP doesn't tell illustrate how the majority of people's lives are different now than 5 years ago.

Why don't you reply to WB's scenario he put to you?


*=sarcasm

News / Poland's Economy Is Booming! The EU's Success Story? [711]

They're not lying, they just can't see life here from any perspective from their own. Maybe they can't because it's not possible, maybe they can't because they won't try. But I wouldn't be too quick to simply call them liars without really thinking it over.

edit:
Government members, those with big business ties and those with political affiliation are, of course, lying. Why? Hey, if they really told the truth, there'd be an armed overthrow in 13 minutes.

News / Poland's Economy Is Booming! The EU's Success Story? [711]


Other than the "shut up weg" he's hasn't strayed from the mark very much. Why don't you reply to the actual scenario he put forward to you?

It's a good point he's made and I'm enjoying reading this thread so I'm curious how you'll respond:


Really though, this thread is the same as in life. No one is willing to compromise their opinion, even in the face of facts. There is a boom for some but there is not a boom for many many more. This is based on personal observation. Most of the professionals I know, do not feel like there is a boom and worry about their mortgages or are still trying to find their own place. When the city hospital closes due to prolonged mismanagement then you can't tell me there's a "boom" in these parts. When doctors still aren't getting paid then I find it hard to accept there's a rising tide lifting all boats. These are people with young families and degrees, they've put in the work, are worth a lot more to society than real estate speculators, yet they're the ones taking the hit.

Who cares how cheap flat screens are when fuel, utilities and food are becoming more expensive?
Hooray, more affordable home electronics! ...oh by the way, the equipment wasn't working properly -you're baby got sick and died.

News / Poland's Economy Is Booming! The EU's Success Story? [711]


Yeah you're right, there's absolutely no difference between the policy makers, big business owners and bankers and factory workers, school teachers and dentists when it comes to decisions that affect millions of people around the world. Thanks for setting me straight.

On a side note, I do think it remarkably stupid to be proud of being born somewhere or even trying to be proud of things others have accomplished completely independently of our contributions:/

News / Poland's Economy Is Booming! The EU's Success Story? [711]


Y'know, I think the merit of this post is being lost on some of you.