News / Who is "the enemy within" in Poland? [88]


What are you talking about?

Where and when did I say there are "no poor conservatives" or even imply that?

You sound like you have been brainwashed by this Lefty propaganda about "conservatives are evil rich people".

Most "conservative" or "rich" people are just people taking chances starting small businesses and don't like seeing other people getting money for nothing. How horrible they are LOL


You mean you didn't see me point out clearly to you before in other conversations that you for some reason failed to speak out against Delphiamdomine's anti-Polish comments that Polish people are "subhuman"? Do I have to spell it out to you? When an Anti-Polish troll like Delphiadomine makes anti-Polish comments that Poles are "subhuman", "polacks" and that "he wishes there was anti-Polonism" etc YOU FAIL to condemn him for that.

Gee I wonder why??? LOL


Oh come on the people who are most offended at Radio Maryja are people who enjoy slurring Polish people like Delphiadomine and people like you who tacitly support guys like Delphiadomine by not speaking out against his obvious anti-Polish racism.

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Yes lets make broad generalizations about conservatives. Yes I hear conservatives all the time saying lets not spend money on infrastructure. LOL

Do you know how silly this sounds? In the US virtually all the states are going broke and if a given bridge is not being put up its probably because there isn't money for it. The money was most likely used up to pay welfare for able bodied people just trying to live off the system and for illegals abusing the American hospitals who ended up bankrupt and closing down.

But you have to be more specific about a given bridge and if there is money for it that was not used up for some other thing. Anybody can make generalizations.

Speaking about generalizations, what about all the wasted hundreds of billions of dollars Libs have given to non citizens and deadbeats in this country that now can't be used for important infrastructure projects?


You sound childish.

If a guy like you, who doesn't criticize people who say Polish people are subhuman, doesn't like
Radio Maria, then Radio Maria is probably a good institution.

I'm sure Radio Maria would criticize people who call Polish people "subhuman". Its probably those kind of things that make you offended at Radio Maria.

News / Who is "the enemy within" in Poland? [88]


Conservatives like living in deplorable conditions and don't want progress for their country??

That's new to me. lol

News / Who is "the enemy within" in Poland? [88]

As a rule of thumb, the Enemy Within a country are the people who live within it who spend most of their time finding fault with the nation, especially its history.

The Enemy Within of Poland is always quick to give the benefit of the doubt to critics of Poland and any kind of criticism of Poland and its institutions.

News / Who is "the enemy within" in Poland? [88]


Yeah sure and I'm the Easter Bunny LOL

Even if you did all those things that still means nothing when you bash Polish people while conspicuously defending certain other countries. I would say your coments about Polish people are "Polacks" are "subhuman" and that you "only wish hatred against Poland was true" nullifies any so call good deed you have done for Poland.

Here in the US, the enemy within (they don't publicly call themselves that of course LOL) has basically said the same as you. They go through the motions of being American while attacking the nation they live within.

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Why don't you look in the mirror? LOL

Delph, you wondering about what the Enemy Within a country is, is like a fish wondering what water is.

News / MORE ANTI-POLISH SENTIMENT IN GERMANY [280]

This so called Polish comedian does not make fun of the stereotype of Polish people having subhuman intelligence. Instead he embraces it.

If he were to make fun of the stereotype of Polish people having subhuman intelligence he would make fun of other people who imply Polish people have subhuman intelligence.

And why characterize me as "dragging in the Jews" when all I'm merely saying is that Jews would not be ridiculed to this degree.

If my merely mentioning Jews to you is "dragging in the Jews", then the mass media in America with its weekly if not daily mentioning of Jews and Israel, must be "dragging in the Jews" all the time.

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So you would have no problem with a Jewish comedian making jokes at the expense of Jews?? And I don't mean these mild Jewish-jokes like "Jews are cheap" or Jews have "angry mother-in laws".

So you would have no problem with a Jewish comedian making Jewish jokes about how "Jews can't help looking and acting like rats".

Or like in that one old German movie where it showed a picture of a rat and then a picture of an ugly big nosed beedy eyed "rat-like" Jew and then it showed a picture of the rat and then a picture of the ugly Jew and back and forth and so on..... while making jokes about the appearance of the "funny looking Jew". Many Germans laughed when they saw that. Would those kind of Jewish jokes be OK with you??

Or Jewish jokes about Jews just can't get enough of the that Holocaust cash from Germany?

Or that one Jewish joke "Oy veh there's No business like the Shoah business" followed by sounds of a cash register.

Or Jewish jokes where a Jewish comedian says "Oy vey I can't wait for more some more Holocaust movies for the Goyim to see....the more guilt the Goyim Germans have the more cash we get!!"

So these poor taste Jewish jokes said by a Jewish comedian would be fine by you in Germany (or anywhere for that matter)??

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Yes as long as its done in the right way.

As long as there are no double standards.

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Oh come on Jonny. Why do you have to say that about me? I am a nice guy :)


Jonny there is nothing wrong about talking about Jews since they are always talked about here in our American newspapers. I just randomly went to two America based newspaper websites and did a search on the word "Jewish" and look what I came up with???

You can do it yourself Jonny. Just randomly go to any American newspaper and do a search on "Jews", "Jewish", "Israel" and see what you come up with.

Also the New York Times is talking about Israel today. Go to the New York Times website to see for yourself

Is it then unhealthy for all these American newspapers to keep talking about Jews on at least a weekly basis if not daily basis?

Also what's wrong with talking about Jews if one is being neutral on them? Personally with all the things our media here says about Jews, I find them to be a very interesting and fascinating people :)

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But if someone references Jews like I did before, as in Germans should show the same sensitivity to Poles that they show to Jews, for some reason that provoked a passionate response by you.

I just said before also that there could very well be a market for anti-Jewish comedy in Germany and other countries and that prompted another response by you.

Sure maybe you won't talk about Jews as much as other people, but when the issue of Jews comes up, many times you have a passionate response.

Which is fine. I'm not saying its a good or bad thing. You have every right to your opinion. I'm just making an observation.

If in your opinion if you think I "talk too much about Jews" then fine. You have every right to that opinion. But I don't know what's so wrong about that, like in this topic, since I'm not saying anything negative about them. So what's the big deal? I'm just using them as a reference point.

Also many Jews are always bringing attention to themselves, especially in regards to Poland, so what's the big deal?? Pick up any Jewish ethnic newspaper. Its rare if somewhere in the paper they're not referencing Poland in some fashion. Afterall most Jews did live in Poland right? Without getting into another discussion on Jews, aren't Jews always talking about how they're part of Poland and how they should be recognized and given attention, etc?

They are also almost always referenced in the mainstream media in the US in some shape or form.


I agree with you there. One group has done a much better job of sensitizing the German public (and the public of other countries) to how it wants to be portrayed, then another ethnic group has done.

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I can say the same about you.

But like it or not my references to Jews is pertinent to this discussion since I think its only common sense that Germans show the same senstivity to Poles that they show to Jews. Germans-Jews-Poles are all tied in historically for better or worse.

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But I'm sure there would be a market for anti-Jewish stereotypes in comedy in Germany and other countries. Like making fun of the "comical" look of Jews and how "Jews look and act like rats". Like in some old German anti-Jewish movies.

I think that kind of anti-Jewish comedy would get huge ratings in Germany and other countries for the mere fact that it would be so controversial. There would be powerful market forces for this.

So anti-Jewish comedies portraying Jews with "comical rat like looks" and "rat like behavior" would be OK with you??


No you didn't mention Jewish matters per se but my comment about how Germans should apply the same senstivity to Poles that they apply to Jews seemed to prompt a passionate response from you for some reason.

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Are you serious? You mean when an actor performs in the TV media function of actor or entertainer, you don’t think the media bosses don’t give him advice or hints as to what direction he should have his act go? But if you read what I said carefully, I just suggested that it was a possibility and was not necessarily a definite thing here.


You don't think there should be any standards of what is shown on public broadcasting?

By Whom? Who do you think? By the people allowing the TV footage to air. You do realize that TV media companies in most civilized countries have some type of standards of things that can be aired or not aired.

I think the rules that should be applied here is that of common sense. I think Nazi German imagery of Polish people having subhuman intelligence should not be in any TV media. Especially German TV imagery. Do you think that's too much for me to ask??

On another note, I notice Johnny you seem to be sensitive to whenever I mention Jews or Jews and Poles together for some reason. Why is that?

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No I believe he was REACTING to this anti-Polish propaganda and a certain German defending it.


That may be true that the German media didn't invent Marek Fis, but don't you think they may have dropped some hints, as to what "he could do" to be a big German media star? But lets say the German media didn't drop any hints to Marek Fis. Why do you think unscrupulous Marek Fis decided to make himself appealing to a German audience by portraying himself as an animal? Even going as far as simulating a bestiality act?


Its true that just about every nation or group of people get portrayed somewhere in an unflattering way. I do not deny that. But can you give me examples of these groups or others being portrayed as animals or simulating bestiality?

At the end of the day, it's the media executives who DETERMINE what is allowed to air to an audience or not. Just because somebody wants to say or do something negative that might get ratings, it doesn't mean its OK. For example here in the US we don't allow on public broadcasting, nudity, ethnic or racial slurs like the N-word or curse words just because there may people who don't mind going on TV doing and saying those things.


Yes there is a good reason why the German media would not let a self-hating Jew provide anti-Jewish imagery for a German audience to have fun with. Its because of the sensitive history between Germans and Jews for obvious reasons. The Germans should also apply this to the Polish people since if the Germans won the war, they would have annihilated all of the Poles right after the Jews.


Most jokes (but not all) about Germans may refer to the stereotype of Germans "being Nazis" but they touch on the most MILDEST of Nazi imagery. Like examples you gave. The Germans are "dull" Germans "goose step". WOWWWWWW!!!! That's so degrading!!!!!! LOL!

Since we all agree that the Nazi German stereotype is that of Germans being Nazi pshycopathic, murdering beasts, WHERE is that imagery??

Can you show me some imagery of Germans acting like beasts and showing imagery of the following:
-A German Drinking blood for fun
-A German saying he likes ketchup because it reminds him of all the blood Germans spilled
-A German car using blood for windshield whiper fluid
-A German joking about using blood instead of water to wash his hands
-A German who urinates blood
-A German with oversized fangs
-A German who has wild blood shot eyes and is drooling
-A German simulating a bestiality act like Marek Fis was
-A Beast German who has long knuckle dragging arms with blood on them
-A German with devil horns on his head with one horn the label "GERMan" and the other horn "Pride"
-A German with claws or tentacles for hands to show how evil he is
-A German eating pieces of human flesh like pork chops
-A German poking out an eye of somebody and using it as a ping pong ball and then eating it
-A German Laughing while throwing babies up in the air and stabbing them with pitch forks (like in Shindlers list)
-A German engaging in dialog like "Well as a GERMan I need to feel better about myself now so I think I should start killing some Jews and Poles now"

-A German acting bezerk screaming and yelling at the top of his lungs for no apparent reason
-A German saying "Ya there is a good veason why they call us GERMans. Its because we are a parasitic predator people"
Etc etc
WHERE is the imagery on these TV shows you talk of Germans looking and acting like Psycho Nazi Beasts??
Where is the German Nazi BEAST imagery??


I would agree with you that people shouldn't be offended at all negative imagery about their group of people. I am not. I gave an example of a Polish American TV character named Andy Sipowicz who was portrayed as an alcoholic who had problems with his dysfunctional Polish American family. Sipowicz is also not a very attractive man in appearance. Nevertheless I was not offended at that character since his character was at least BALANCED with other positive qualities and his negative qualities at least seemed possible for a human being to have.

However, this Marek Fis is doing things for a German audience that CROSSES the line. He is portraying a negative image of a group of people doing something that no rational human would ever do. Like acting like an animal and performing bestiality acts.

Life / Is there something like a "Polish culture" or Polish national identity? [49]


Well I said athletes of Polish descent not just athletes from Poland. There have been top athletes in just about every sport there is, who are of Polish descent.

Don't tell me you are not aware of all the great Polish athletes that have been in baseball, tennis basketball, NFL Football, Soccer, Weightlifting, boxing, MMA fighting, ect etc.

As for Poland,

Currently you have a world class woman's tennis player from Poland.

Do I have to remind you not long ago where 3 of the 10 world's strongest men came from?

Do I have to remind you what country has great boxers especially for its size??

delph this topic of Polish athletes you definitely have little knowledge of. Its hard to believe you live in Poland or are around Poles, without knowing about these things.

News / MORE ANTI-POLISH SENTIMENT IN GERMANY [280]

Pennboy and Des Essientes you guys might be on the same side of the issue more then you realize.

I don't think Des Essientes is a big fan of the loony delphiadomine.

Life / Is there something like a "Polish culture" or Polish national identity? [49]

As a Polish American, one of the qualities of being Polish I feel, is having the underdog fighting spirit to overcome huge challenges and odds.

I feel many great atheletes of Polish descent have had this mindset. I know it helped me when I was in High School sports.

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The only people who find subhuman intelligence jokes about Polish people popular are insecure low-lifes & Nazis who need to see other people denigraded so that they can feel better about their own ancestry.

The only two countries in the world where subhuman intelligene jokes about Poles were "popular" were Nazi Germany and 1970's America when Hollywood Pro-Soviet anti-Polish Hollywood pushed the subhuman intelligence jokes about the Polish.

As for your other comments, you are such a hypcocrite.

This is really rich.

Rychlik makes a German joke about "a German guy eating his snot" and "snot being part of the German diet" and then he gets attacked for that by delphiadomine the Russian who accuses Rychlik of racism.

But Delphiadomine has attacked Polish people many times with anti-Polish slurs and even said Polish people are subhuman, but that's not racism. LOL

Now here it is you agree with Delhiadomine's attack on Rychlik that Rychlik's German joke is racism, because you are angry at Rychlik's German joke and feel insulted as a German.

This is quite interesting, that you are now offended at ethnic jokes. Weren't you (and delphiadomine) always preaching to Polish people that they shouldn't be offended at ethnic jokes?

Oh so when you see a German joke that isn't one of those mild German jokes about "Germans marching" or "Germans are rigid" NOW you are offended?? LOL

Now you are agreeing with somebody who has said Polish people are subhumans?

But I guess this is par for the course since the origin of subhuman intelligence jokes about Polish people came from Nazi Germany. They were in Hitler's speeches like when he talked about the bad shape of Poland as being a "Polish state of affairs" after 1917 while conveniently not talking about how Germany and other countries destroyed Poland from 1795-1917

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That's what I've always been saying.

You had Polish president Kwasinewski who was half Jewish who Poles obviouly voted for.

Jews have been allowed to operate in government and businesses in Poland pecentage wise far disproportionately to their population percentage in Poland.

But of course that is always taken for granted by those Jews who are so quick to level charges of "anti-semtism" at Poles. Its almost like that saying, you can do 9 good things for Jews but God forbid you do one not so good thing for them because they will only remember that one thing.

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He was making a joke.

Can't you take a joke?

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What about your anti-semitic Russia?

You have skinhead activitiy on the streets of MOSCOW all the time.

Russia is the country which started the anti-semtic "The Elders of the Protocols of Zion" which Hitler used.

Russia started WWII WITH Nazi Germany.

Putin supports racist Nationalist Naschi groups.

This Russian anti-semitism goes on and on, yet you cry about a couple things some Polish people say.

If Jewish Holocaust Industry groups want compensation for WWII they should go after Russia since Russia's actions STARTED WWII with Nazi Germany. Jewish WWII suffering started because of Russian actions.

Also Russia is raking in a whole bunch of cash with the high oil prices now. Russia would be a gold-mine for Holocaust Industry groups.

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Really?

So pointing out in that post of mine that somebody is an anti-Polish bigot and then happen to mention his ancestry, means that to you?

Its not like I said in my post that he is an anti-Polish bigot BECAUSE of his ancestry. Its interesting that you would read that into that brief message of mine. But hey....you might have a point.

But its good to know at least, that delphiadomine would never slur somebody because of their ancestry LOL

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delphiadomine is a vile anti-Polish bigot who is of RuSSian ancestry.

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That's a good question. Why doesn't the German media make a low-class unscrupulous Jewish guy who portrays his people as rats to be funny, into a German media star like this unscrupulous Polish guy who degrades his Polish people as having less then human intelligence? Its not like there aren't unscrupulous Jews who would do this. Every group has its unscrupulous bad apples.

Why doesn't the German media find a black guy who portrays blacks as apes? Its not like there aren't black people out there who wouldn't do that.

Or how about finding a low-class Russian who makes his Russian people look like retards? There are millions of Russians who would do this. Just look at all the Russian drunk/joke videos out there where low-class Russians make the rest of Russia look bad.

I have looked at lot of these videos on this topic of various nationalities being jokes about, and although they are unflattering to the nations and groups of people they are making fun of, I don't see any of them being portrayed as having subhuman intelligence like this Polish guy Marek is in the German show. The disgusting stuff this Polish guy does, really does make him look like he has subhuman intelligence. Like he's an animal. Or as the Nazi Germans would say about Polish people and Slavic people, "an animal in the form of a human".

Gee what a shocker. German TV media making shows that push imagery of Polish people having subhuman intelligence. I'm shocked! LOL


No I never remembered that in school. I always remembered that the kid who was mocked and ridiculed (for any reason) and didn't stand up for himself, got bullied and mocked even more.


Oh yeah that Polish guy Marek really showed up those Germans alright! LOL Why I bet all that imagery of Marek acting like he has subhuman intelligence because he's Polish will be rejected by the German mind. LOL

Yeah turning yourself into an ethnic punching bag so that people of other ethnic groups can feel better about their own ancestry at your expense is always the best way to have them stop bashing you. LOL!!

Yeah we see here in America how Jews and Black people have prevented people from making jokes about Jews being rats and jokes about Blacks being apes, because they NEVER spoke out against people making these kind of insulting jokes about them!! LOL

Yes yes making yourself into an ethnic punching bag for others will always make them stop punching you!!

With all due respect, what are you going to say next? If you just allow somebody to keep punching you in the face, its good..... because eventually he'll stop, because his knuckles will get tired??

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Well I don't know about recently, since older generation Polish Americans I know, including my relatives, say the difference is night and day, between the frequency and viciousness of these media subhuman intelligence jokes against Polish people, when comparing them to the 1960's-1970's and today.

Although once in a while there is an anti-Polish joke slur in the media today, the frequency of the anti-Polish slurs is nothing in comparison to the 60's and 70's when the media, mainly only a few TV networks, had much more influence over larger sections of the American population with its anti-Polish joke slurs. The Hollywood/TV media complex also hated Polish people much more in those days then today.

Today they have bigger fish to fry including people they don't like in Muslim countries, although some of the Hollywood loonies still hold onto their anti-Polish prejudices.

Also credit should also be given to those Polish American anti-bigotry groups and individual Polish Americans who complained to the presidents and key decision makers of these media corporations for their anti-Polish slurs, although these Poles could have always used more help.

Here a powerful senator apologized for bashing Polish people with subhuman intelligence jokes in 2008. He did so after Polish Americans spoke out against him and many NON-Polish Americans and MEDIA sympathized with Polish Americans on this issue

upi.com/Top_News/2008/12/17/Specter-apologizes-for-Polish-jokes/UPI-44361229547951/
public.shns.com/node/39238
nbcphiladelphia.com/news/archive/Specter-Apologizes-for-Polish-Comments.html
wpxi.com/news/18299052/detail.html

This senators anti-Polish slurs didn't exactly help his reelection efforts in a state with many Polish Americans LOL

Also remember that any media person or public official can always be slammed by us little guys on the internet for their anti-Polish prejudice. More and more of these public people are becoming mindful of that.

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You are right.

Most of the times, if you send a letter to Polish American newspapers, Polish American groups (Polish American Congress Anti-Bigotry committee, Polish Falcons, Kosciuszko group, Polish American Journal, Post Eagle, Ampoleagle, PoloniaToday, etc.) or websites they will publicize anti-Polish defamation.

Its good to give info on who, what, where and when and then the contact information of the media source eminating the anti-Polish defamation so that Polish people can complain to them.

This generally has worked in the US. The internet naturally has made it easier for Polish American groups to be connected and work together. Its the main reason why there has been less of the anti-Polish slurs like "Polish death camps" in the newspapers.

It would probably be a good start to google Polish American groups and newspapers. There are Polish groups in Britain too.

Although Polish American groups I'm sure would want to help in this situation, since this is anti-Polish defamation is originating in Europe/Germany, it might be good to first contact Polish-German groups or Poles in Poland familiar with Germany, or fair minded Germans to see what could be done about this.

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No of course not. LOL

A TV show pushing the imagery of a people from a given nation having inferior intelligence, is always meant to be a positive portrayal of the country.

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This is very true.

I have always noticed that most of the times, people who like to dish out to the Polish people (or enjoy seeing it being dished out to the Polish people) hate it when you dish it back out at their ancestry.

Sadly there is a lot of "Schaudenfreude" out there. People feeling better about themselves at the expense of others.

I hope most Germans reject this anti-Polish show.

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Probably for the same reason why other ethnic groups would be angry if certain media used low-lifes (that sell out their own ethnic group) of their ethnic group to portray them negatively.

There is an uproar among Italian American groups in the US about the negative anti-Italian stereotypes that the show "The Jersey Shore" portrays of Italians, even though most of the people on the show are of Italian descent.

I wonder how African American groups would feel if there was a show that had unscrupulous African people on the show making fun of themselves as apes. Or how would Jewish American groups feel if there were some unscrupulous Jewish actors portraying anti-Jewish stereotypes of Jews being "rat like". Or how would Germans feel it they saw unscrupulous German actors portraying Germans as drinking the blood of there victims for fun or saying "I like killing Slavic and Jewish people for fun because that's how I feel better about my German myself".

Media using low-lifes of an ethnic group to define that ethnic group negatively is bigotry.

I'm hoping that the majority of Germans reject this show.

Hopefully main stream Germans are above this kind of anti-Polish propaganda.