nomaderol
9 Jan 2010
History / What Was Poland like in the year 1988? [50]
immigrants from which countries? turkey? they were not immigrants, post 2-wwar workers to germany following an agreement between turkey and germany. arabs? those who can go to west are usually rich arabs. paki-india? they have historical connection with uk anyway. africa? they were travelling always anyway sometimes freely sometimes forcefully.. ha, you mean from former soviet countries like ukraine, etc? i just didnt understand who you meant by immigrants after su.
btw, most anarchic countries who were siding with the west were greece and turkey. turkey were divided fifty fifty between leftists and rightists and tens of tousands of people killed each others. it was like a civil war.. su's biggest mistake in interior war of turkey was to work with the guys of relatively rich people whose minds were in la la lands. these relatively rich, educated guys caused a reactional opinion in their minds of poor young guys who chosed to stay against them leftists. if su spent more effort on the poorer guys like the west did, turkey could be joining su those days and probably this would save su as they would be able to reach the meditarrenan sea, hence could have control points in that sea. it could be easier to add greece then which would mean the west could be blocked to enter the mediterranean sea, hence arab oils. syria too was on su then. so, su made a big mistake on turkey card.
anyway, su was not a really true socialist.. now, i wonder if global socialism happens sooner or later, if russia will resist agains this or not. it wont be easy for them to kick a thing away and to get it back.
immigrants from which countries? turkey? they were not immigrants, post 2-wwar workers to germany following an agreement between turkey and germany. arabs? those who can go to west are usually rich arabs. paki-india? they have historical connection with uk anyway. africa? they were travelling always anyway sometimes freely sometimes forcefully.. ha, you mean from former soviet countries like ukraine, etc? i just didnt understand who you meant by immigrants after su.
btw, most anarchic countries who were siding with the west were greece and turkey. turkey were divided fifty fifty between leftists and rightists and tens of tousands of people killed each others. it was like a civil war.. su's biggest mistake in interior war of turkey was to work with the guys of relatively rich people whose minds were in la la lands. these relatively rich, educated guys caused a reactional opinion in their minds of poor young guys who chosed to stay against them leftists. if su spent more effort on the poorer guys like the west did, turkey could be joining su those days and probably this would save su as they would be able to reach the meditarrenan sea, hence could have control points in that sea. it could be easier to add greece then which would mean the west could be blocked to enter the mediterranean sea, hence arab oils. syria too was on su then. so, su made a big mistake on turkey card.
anyway, su was not a really true socialist.. now, i wonder if global socialism happens sooner or later, if russia will resist agains this or not. it wont be easy for them to kick a thing away and to get it back.