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Sokrates   
11 May 2011
News / Row over status of Poles in Germany sours relations [176]

They build alot of towns and villages...you can deny it till you are blue in the face!

Name a few? Poznań, Gniezno... all major hubs all polish built.

You Slavs were late comer and the land was NOT empty

No of course, there were small settlements both celtic and germanic, not a single city or town, not even the nazis were able to find them so they changed Poznań into a german city of Posen.

as most invaders do.
Germanic settlement reached till to the Vistula. We have the map to show it..what have you?

Which map? XXcent one or "Here be dragons" one? Untill XII cent all german maps are worth exactly the same as any other dark age maps, nothing.

Ps.

Koala is right though, in X century that were no Germans in Poland whatsoever.
Sokrates   
11 May 2011
News / Row over status of Poles in Germany sours relations [176]

If the Poles would stop denying our heritage we would so rock together...:)

The problem with you guys is you're defining "our" as german.

Also yes the Slavs went into empty terrains, that Germans lived in the area doesnt mean they actually built in it, they did not, the main germanic effort was west from the Oder.

The problem i see with your reasoning is that under german rule there was essentially one village per week of travel, proto-Poles built more than 3000 settlements in the span of a few centuries.
Sokrates   
11 May 2011
News / Row over status of Poles in Germany sours relations [176]

Blaskowitz is not a Polish surname - it is a place name derived surname but not Polish - however the place name (Blaskowitz) could have been Polish (but could have also been Pommeranian, Weletian, Serbian or even Polabian)

Guy got something polish along the way, its been in his biography but there's more interesting names.

acepilots.com/german/nowotny.html

Essentially there was a f*ckton of Poles and Germans in each others armies on all levels, there's more than a fifty German generals with polish roots, more than 10 polish generals with german roots (Orlik-Rueckermann) a third of Germany's top scoring aces had polish roots.
Sokrates   
10 May 2011
News / Do Poles take Kaczynski seriously!? [199]

Kaczynski completely forgets to mention that Germany bent over backwards to include Poland in the EU

Business is business, that was not a charity move. No one here is anti-euro, we're just skeptical as to its benevolence and believe we should be guarding our own end of the bargain.
Sokrates   
10 May 2011
News / Do Poles take Kaczynski seriously!? [199]

Safety isn't a European interest?

So how is Europe safe? When Russia pulled off the gas stunt EU did not do anything whatsoever.

Cultural exchange isn't a European interest?

Was there any? I know we went abroad purely for the money.

Doesn't he take such things seriously?

They're both a non factor due to reasons above, i am of course oversimplyfying.
Sokrates   
10 May 2011
News / Do Poles take Kaczynski seriously!? [199]

Such stunts dont work on me Sean, the guy got some things right that makes me threat he seriously, he openly stated Europe is out to f*ck us, that if Poland wont guard and pursue its own interests no one will and that our own business takes precedence over european interests since there's no such thing as european interests.

I like and agree with all the points mentioned, that said i still think he's a dolt.
Sokrates   
10 May 2011
News / Do Poles take Kaczynski seriously!? [199]

Polish or not, I can form an impression so quit the crap

I'm not holding it against you, if people like you were to f*ck our girls i wouldnt mind at all but certain things do fly over your head.

What you said is NOT an exclusively Polish phenomenon so start to see that, please.

No its not but Poles are...specific in it, they'll debate politics hotly enough for someone to think they love them when in reality the politics and politicians are almost universally disliked.
Sokrates   
10 May 2011
News / Do Poles take Kaczynski seriously!? [199]

But people seem to take Tusk more seriously, wouldn't you say, Sok?

Better PR.

Personally, he comes across as being deceptive but Poles seem to like him.

Thats the problem with not being polish Sean, you dont grasp some things, we dont like politicians in general, the vast majority of those of us who vote are voting for lesser evil, for a time Tusk seemed to be a smaller twat, few people in Poland like politicians at all.

Then you learn he's really a German, he was in separatist kashubian movements, he's stealing, lying and working 2 days a week.

JK is viewed with suspicion and it would be hard to change that broad

JK is viewed as a nutty fruitbat and everyone fears the nutty one, except he's not a nutter he's just clumsy, i prefer a clumsy oaf to a slick thief but i dont like either of them.
Sokrates   
10 May 2011
News / Do Poles take Kaczynski seriously!? [199]

Do you think that he did it effectively while in power?

Nope which is why i deem him a bad politician but at least he's not a thief or a traitor like Tusk.
Sokrates   
10 May 2011
News / Do Poles take Kaczynski seriously!? [199]

A certain stand has to be taken at certain times but many might say that JK oversteps the mark when it comes to the EU

He does not, he does the same thing Germans and French are doing, his mistake is he's doing it openly.
Sokrates   
10 May 2011
News / Do Poles take Kaczynski seriously!? [199]

Why not make it a plank to leave the EU instead of whining and moaning about it? That would put him into a much more credible position instead of looking like a populist stooge.

You didnt understand, EU means business and money, it is however a front for Germany and France tugging each their own way at the expense of others, Poland as well.

The good policy is to keep dancing but oppose internally, Kaczyński is a good man because he recognizes we're getting f*cked in the arse, he's a bad politician though because he declares it openly.

He was perceived as the barking little dog which unfairly gave Poland the title of 'Awkward Partner' in Europe.

Poland was attempting to guard its own iterests and this is what gave Poland a title of awkward partner, when i read german and french newspapers Poland is a good partner when it nods to initiatives that serve these countries, if it tries to pursue its own well being it suddenly becomes an awkward partner.

Kaczyński needs to learn to be discreet though, you dont declare your intentions like that if you're an important public figure.
Sokrates   
10 May 2011
News / Do Poles take Kaczynski seriously!? [199]

That kind of defines PO as well :) ...actually, that does a good job of describing a chunk of Poland.

The thing i like about Kaczyński is that he recognizes EU as a joke, every country tugs in their own direction and so should we, the thing i dont like about him is that he says so openly.
Sokrates   
10 May 2011
News / Do Poles take Kaczynski seriously!? [199]

Yes a lot of Poles do take him seriously, he's rhetoric maybe clumsy but there's a LOT of things he gets right.
Sokrates   
9 May 2011
History / Polish flag over the Reichstag first? [399]

If you don't have an army to speak of, why do you declare war on the most powerful country in Europe of that time? Doesn't make sense, unless Britain was serious about supporting Poland

In letter not in spirit, serios support could have been economical, there was very little of it even though UK had capacity to outfit an armoure division and another motorised division in Poland which could change a LOT.

Then I understand even less why some people here criticize Britain for her role at the beginning of WW2.

The problem is that UK led Poland on, there was no real support economic or otherwise, to give you an example UK could easily sell Poland up to 300 tanks prior to hostilities, it didnt.

The major culprit is of course France but UK had its part in it too.
Sokrates   
8 May 2011
History / Polish flag over the Reichstag first? [399]

At the cost of dragging GB into the war?

GB didnt have an army at that time, dragging a country without an army into a war is a non factor, they had industry to build one over a period of 2-3 years which they did but in 1939 they'll be fighting with their d*cks.

Not so sure about that. I always thought Hitler wasn't really interested in a war with the Brits.

Only as long as Brits didnt bother him, war with UK was inevitable anyway, there could be only one maritime power in Europe and Hitler wasnt big on second places.
Sokrates   
8 May 2011
News / Kaczyński wants a people-friendly Poland [64]

if the government feels the need to lift our spirits is it not acknowlegement that they are part responsible for lowering them.

Thats not your goverment so what is it to you?
Sokrates   
8 May 2011
History / Polish flag over the Reichstag first? [399]

I'm pretty sure that Hitler would've stayed away from France; at least in 1939.

An alliance with Poland nets him an additional 1.4 milion soldiers who while poorly equipped present a formidable fighting force.

If Hitler had polish resources in 1939 he'd attack France without a moments notice even in early 1939.
Sokrates   
7 May 2011
News / 2011 Netherlands discuss Polish deportation plan [118]

How long would I last in Poland if I was charged by the Police with anything? id be marched to the nearest airport/border crossing wouldnt I ,so get a fcukin grip!

Yes but you're a foreigner so its OK to abuse you.

Why should Poles a few hours drive from their home be allowed to sit on their arse getting Dutch unemployment benifits?

Because we deserve them.
Sokrates   
7 May 2011
Work / Salary and cost of living information - Krakow [257]

You're left with 4247,43 if you can cook for yourself then living expenses (food/flat) should round up at 2000-2500zł (if you dont want to save) which leaves you 1700zł to spend or save, thats enough money for a family of 3 to live relatively comfortably.
Sokrates   
5 May 2011
News / Poland A and Ukraine B. Compare how far Poland has advanced. [282]

That was the census of 1905 Silesia...not Greater Poland I think...

Ah thats different, western Silesia was at the time mostly german, its eastern part though was predominantly polish.

only about 10 thousand of these were killed as far as I know

Armies list wounded as losses.
Sokrates   
5 May 2011
News / Poland A and Ukraine B. Compare how far Poland has advanced. [282]

You brought numbers to show the claim Poland has on lost eastern territories...I did the same with the gained western territories.
Of course, where your math was met with widespread approval, my numbers were not...surprise, surprise!

Specify please, because if you're talking about Greater Poland these numbers are false (i had to double check).
Sokrates   
5 May 2011
News / Poland A and Ukraine B. Compare how far Poland has advanced. [282]

German settlers since 2000 years! :)

In Poznań? Rubbish, if you said Wrocław then i'd agree but Poznań had a polish majority through all of its history so whats your point?

75% Germans, only 25% Poles!

After you booted Poles and settled Germans there, i'm sorry if i do not recognize a majority forcefully settled there, so if i invade Berlin, kick Germans out and settle in Poles thats a polish city then? Some messed up logic you've got.
Sokrates   
5 May 2011
News / Poland A and Ukraine B. Compare how far Poland has advanced. [282]

Didn't stop the Poles from "fighting for Silesias freedom" nor speaking of it as "recovered territories".

Oh come on dont be a bloody revisionist, we both know Germany invaded the region and the so called "majority" were german settlers settling in homes from which you kicked out the locals ie Poles.

And the people fighting for Silesia to join Poland were *gasp* Silesians! Who are also Poles and after 123 years of german occupation were fighting to get back to Poland, sorry but you have no claim whatsoever when it comes to Poznań and Silesia, none.

You invaded it for a century, got booted out and now you're talking like that century makes it german territory seriously BB your arrogance is f*cking epic.

There's a difference between Poles aquiring Lwów and Germans invading Silesia, Poles had Lwów for 500 years and built virtually everything there also they did not invade, they inherited it via dynastic heritage, Germans simply invaded stayed for 3 generations and got kicked out, now people like you drone on how Poznań and Greater Poland is really german territory because you managed to invade and occupy it for a whole century!