History / Why HMG (Her Majesty's Government) abandoned Poland to the Soviets [30]


What comments? There's only one comment of mine in this thread.
As for "myths", there's a whole Wiki note about this "myth":
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Western_betrayal
Have you read it?
This term "Western betrayal" doesn't refer to what happened after the WWII only:

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Western_betrayal#Czechoslovakia

As for my personal opinion? If one is idealistic and has an emotional attitude towards it - one can call it betrayal (Yalta, I mean). If someone is cynical (like some Polish right-wingers - I've read their comments about this) - then they would call it Realpolitik and would say that Poland should always behave the way the West and Russia behave - thinking only about it's interests and forget about "honour", "friends" and such "silly things". There's also the realistic approach - maybe the West couldn't really do much about what happened. I would say my attitude is probably a mix of the first one and the last one, with advantage on the last option I guess. And maybe some small addition, really tiny, of the second one (Realpolitik). I think that majority of Poles have such attitude. I wouldn't say there's some great anger at the UK or sth over what happened. People usually are aware of the realities of those times, I think.

I don't have some kind of strong opinion about it either, I wasn't ever focusing on this part of history too much, to be honest. I would have to read more about it, maybe also those transcripts that Ozi Dan mentioned. It seems to me that the British here are fixated on this. I've never heard Poles ranting about it over and over again or sth. It's usually Russians who like to remind us about it when, for example, Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact is mentioned. It usually goes like this: "Oh, and what about the West, huh? What about your precious "allies"? They sold you like a sack of potatos! Haha! You're so stupid and naive... They would do it again without blinking!"

And probably they're right...


Sorry, I am not aware of such myth. I honestly don't care who won it, the important thing is that it was won. Although I think I remember that Polish participation was quite significant.


Gdyniaguy14 started with this "man up" and I returned the favour.
Then I guess the US should "man up" and Poland should not have been the part of coalition the US created to invade Iraq. And we shouldn't be in Afghanistan helping NATO. OK, I guess we should remember to stay away from Western wars in the future... lol Point taken.

Off-Topic / Thanks a lot for all of your kindness [27]


Thanks, yehudi :) I would like to and I hope I will one day.

UK, Ireland / Do people in Poland live "better" than here in the UK? [150]


How the hell am I supposed to know? Ask spiritus what he meant. I couldn't care less about the tourism infrastructure in Poland, the UK or Honolulu for that matter lol


;D

Gdyniaguy, I see you're very patriotic and proud of your country and probably you love it very much, but what you're doing in Poland then is beyond me... lol

UK, Ireland / Do people in Poland live "better" than here in the UK? [150]


Not tourism, but "tourism infrastructure".

Gdyniaguy14, that's what spiritus wrote:


So you're arguing with something that wasn't even written.

And it seems to me spiritus isn't Polish, I guess he's British, isn't he? He made this whole thread in the first place.

Life / Health system in Poland - NFZ costs EU? [18]

46,80 zł every month.


Source:
russian.us.edu.pl/sites/russian.us.edu.pl/files/imce/ubezpieczenie_w_nfz_-_2013_pl.pdf
(There's an info there how to do it too, what documents you need, etc.)

History / Why HMG (Her Majesty's Government) abandoned Poland to the Soviets [30]


And I thought that's what allies are for... To help. Like Poles in Iraq, Afghanistan, in the Battle of Britain and other various fronts of WWII... Maybe the West should "man up" too so the US and Russia wouldn't have to save it again next time... :)

UK, Ireland / Do people in Poland live "better" than here in the UK? [150]


I don't "lie", everyone knows that bureaucracy in Poland is dreadful, it isn't a secret, really lol I simply explained what are the reasons for that tree stamping and giving receipts.

I know what you were getting at, but the end result is the same - you can pretty much walk wherever you want, both in the UK and Poland.

You have the law and we have friendly grandmas ;))
We just apparently do things differently and that's OK :)

UK, Ireland / Do people in Poland live "better" than here in the UK? [150]

:)
This is done to make sure the tree wasn't cut illegally by thieves and so the owner of the forest wouldn't get into trouble with the police if he was transporting trees somewhere to sell, for example (one can always show the stamp and the receipt - "You see, those are my trees and I've cut them legally.") ;)

Genealogy / Stanislaw (Jan) Czternastek & Bronislaw Wydrowski - searching info on Polish War Pilots [45]

Sure, no problem :) I'll make the thread tomorrow (because it's late already :)) or no later than on Sunday and I'll let you know if there's any progress here in this thread and in a private message (if you prefer to be contacted by e-mail then you can send me your e-mail address in a private message here on PF). I will give you a link to the thread too in case you wanted to check it by yourself :)

Genealogy / Stanislaw (Jan) Czternastek & Bronislaw Wydrowski - searching info on Polish War Pilots [45]

Hello :)


How much do you know about him?
I've found his biography on a few sites:


samoloty.pl/noweSamoloty/index.php/ludzie-lotnictwa-hobby-1807/zwipzani-z-lotnictwem-hobby-1809/polscy-hobby-2191/czerny-jan/czternastek-stanislaw
w.kki.com.pl/pioinf/przemysl/dzieje/II_ws/orleta.html

According to this link his family lived at Św. Józefa 5 and later at Kołłątaja 9 (in Przemyśl, Poland).

polishairforce.pl/czternastek.html
In the last link it is written that the photo comes from a collection of Wojtek Matusiak. Maybe this Wojtek Matusiak is his family? Or maybe he knows something about his family, who knows...

Czternastek was from Przemyśl, you could try to contact someone in Przemyśl to find out something about his family. Perhaps they know something about him in the schools he graduated from in Przemyśl (just a thought), I don't know...

Also, I guess you could write about your search on: dws.org.pl (it's a forum about World War II)
The forum is in Polish, but my Russian friend was discussing there in English so I guess there are some users who know English well enough. Or I could make a thread on this forum about your search on your behalf, if you wish.

UK, Ireland / Polish people in the UK using the English version of their name? [56]


Unlike Poland? Lithuanians, Ukrainians, Belarusians, Jews, Tatars, Romani people, Germans, etc. I don't know, maybe the UK had more and more "exotic" or sth, but it's not like Poland was always so monocultural :)

UK, Ireland / Do people in Poland live "better" than here in the UK? [150]


No, you don't have to plant a new one, but you have to inform the forest ranger (even if it's your land and you've planted the tree yourself), forest ranger will come, check which tree you want to cut down and put a stamp on it and will give you a receipt ;)

UK, Ireland / Do people in Poland live "better" than here in the UK? [150]


Spot on lol


I've heard the UK lacks café culture on the other hand (as opposite to Poland) ;)


True.


Yeah, I'm not sure where CasualObserver is getting this from either.
Btw, people are also walking freely in my grandma's forest and picking wild mushrooms there and going like this from one private forest to another and then to state-owned forests too. If people from not around my grandma's village came there, they wouldn't probably even know that this forest belongs to anyone - it's not like there are some kind of signs or fences lol You just can't cut down a tree in a private or state-owned forest, as far as I know.

Genealogy / Nowak: Am the third generation born in the united states. Trying to find family in Poland. [11]

Hi montreal,


Go ahead, personal stories like that are always interesting :)


Yes, post it if you can.
Also, you could take photos of those medals (unless you already know what medals those are).


But what kind of information are you interested in? His service in the army? You'd like to get to know something about his family? Or what?

Genealogy / Researching a Pole ( Wladyslav Kubik ) with not much to go on [5]


Well, this isn't much, but could be some kind of a clue, I guess. Maybe he was in Polish II Corps (so called "Anders' Army") and perhaps he fought in Italy (hence the Italian coin turned into a pendant - but that's just a wild guess on my part :)).

I don't know, maybe your friend could try to find out something first by contacting:

MINISTRY OF DEFENCE
APC POLISH ENQUIRIES
Building 28 B, RAF Northolt
West End Road
Ruislip
Middlesex HA4 6NG

Telephone: 020 8833 8603, Fax: 020 8833 8866
e-mail: polishdisoff@northolt.raf.mod.uk

If she finds his files there and she'll know in which unit he served she could then find out more at the Polish Institute and Sikorski Museum (documents there are filed by units' numbers):

The Polish Institute and Sikorski Museum - London, 20 Prince's Gate, London, SW7 1PT, Tel.: 00 44 207 589 9249:

pism.co.uk

There's also the Central Military Archive in Poland - Centralne Archiwum Wojskowe (CAW):

caw.wp.mil.pl/pl/28.html

Archive Information - phone number: (22) 681-45-84, e-mail: informacja.caw@wp.mil.pl


Yes, Looker is right.


Hmm, I must have done sth wrong, I'll try again:

caw.wp.mil.pl/pl/28.html

Food / What are my chances if I open Grill of Serbian cuisine in Poland? [14]


Well, it looks like something Poles could eat :)
You can find recipes on the Polish internet, so I guess Polish people could be interested:


bialaglowka.blogspot.com/2013/07/cevapcici-chorwackie-kotleciki-z-grilla.html

Here you have comments about pljeskavica - people seem to like it:


zarciebezspinki.blogspot.com/2012/10/serbska-pljeskavica.html

It looks like it would be a good idea to make it with some kind of Serbian cheese called "kajmak", because people commenting seem to love it.

But, you know, I guess opening such business is risky, apparently it's not easy to stay afloat, you'd probably have to do some amount of research and, of course, have enough money to open it.

Off-Topic / Thanks a lot for all of your kindness [27]


Um... o_O Of course lol
One Jewish guy living in USA wrote under an article in an Israeli newspaper that "all Poles should die". I've also read other unpleasant and unfair comments. Would I fear to come to Israel because of that? lol Of course not. Poles are coming there for pilgrimages and I haven't heard about any Pole returning in a coffin from that country ;) I'm not basing my decisions on a few comments written on the internet.

Off-Topic / Thanks a lot for all of your kindness [27]

My dear friend shade! Your fellow Muslim ash786, who visited Poland on numerous occasions and has a Polish girlfriend, wrote to you that you will be perfectly safe in Poland and that most Poles are cool :) Surely now, after what ash768 wrote to you, you will change your decision, make use of your visa and visit our wonderful country? :)

Off-Topic / Thanks a lot for all of your kindness [27]

We'll see, we'll see :)

Off-Topic / Thanks a lot for all of your kindness [27]


Sweetie, I don't target religions nor people, not even trolls :)


It doesn't matter to him, because he came here with an agenda. What normal person "cancels his visit to Poland" because he has read a few comments on an English speaking internet forum? lol He's a troll :)

Off-Topic / Thanks a lot for all of your kindness [27]


:)

Yes, I think "shade" is trolling.

Btw, "shade", majority of people on this forum aren't Polish, genius lol

UK, Ireland / Curious about differences Polish people see with the British? [95]

Well, I'm writing this from a perspective of a person who lived all her life in Poland. I would say that generally there is a positive attitude to the UK in Poland, although maybe it's not as positive as it used to be and I don't know to what extent historical reasons matter nowadays. I guess one can argue how "special" this affection is :) But Poles usually claim they have a special affection for Hungarians due to historical reasons and, indeed, our Hungarian "brothers" got the same percentage as the English. 43% Poles like them.

UK, Ireland / Curious about differences Polish people see with the British? [95]


CasualObserver, I think you're wrong. I would say Poles have a special affection for the UK due to it's role during the World War II. Since the fall of France the Polish government-in-exile was based in London and Great Britain was the only country where Poles could find safe haven and continue to fight Nazi Germany (since I wouldn't call the Soviet Union an exactly "safe haven", if you know what I mean). So there is definitely a positive sentiment.

That doesn't mean, however, that those same Poles who recognise Britain's role and have this positive sentiment won't mention "the Western betrayal" or "the Phoney War". Those are elements of the same reality and not two realities that exclude each other :)


Oh, the same can be said about the British (or Westerners in general) migrating to Poland :)


I think the Marshall Plan is a rather basic knowledge, although maybe it's mainly talked about in reference to Germany. Poland didn't take part in the Marshall Plan so perhaps there isn't (or wasn't) much focus on it at history classes. Probably just some general info.

As for Britain's situation probably most people (average Poles) know some basic facts, like that the UK was bombed by the Nazis, that there was Battle of Britain (and that Poles took part in it), that Chamberlain sucked ass and Churchill was cool, stuff like that :)

It's the same with average British people and their knowledge about what was going on in Poland during and after the war, I can imagine. I suspect they know even less than Poles about the UK. For an average British person it's most likely something in the lines of "The World War II started when Hitler attacked Poland and... and... Oh! I know! Auschwitz was in Poland, wasn't it?" And that's probably it ;)


What is this "general British view" and "propaganda myth" that you're talking about? I'm sorry, I just didn't get it from the discussion in this thread.


To be honest, I doubt that you've discussed with enough Poles to be able to say what an average Pole is more likely to do or not ;)

I've discussed history with people of different nationalities and observed discussions of others and I've noticed that every country has it's own point of view, their own bias in looking at history, their own myths, justifications, etc. etc. And sometimes quite shocking misconceptions, like, for example, one Scot who suggested here on these very forums that Hitler decided to build death camps (or concentration camps in general, I don't remember) in Poland because... Poles were so anti-Semitic.

Of course, I would say that the way history was taught in communistic countries (and even more so in the Soviet Union) had very particular flaws but I have an impression that Westerners aren't free from bias when looking at their own history (or history of other countries) and sometimes their view of historical events can be pretty skewed.

I think that it also depends on what's your attitude to Poles/Poland/Polish history, as L777 mentioned. If you're going to be friendly a Pole will probably start talking about the Battle of Britain and what great brothers in arms we were or something of this sort lol But if you come across as a jerk he may start with "the Western betrayal", etc.

It also depends on the Pole too, naturally - some people can be objective, others - not really.
There's also another factor to all of this, I suspect. You've mentioned that you had three people begin such conversation. I think it may be also partly due to the strain that Polish immigration to the UK brought onto Polish-British relations. Poles think (I'm generalising here, of course) that the British view them as a threat to their jobs, a nuisance and that they look down on Poles (and Poland). It doesn't generate warm feelings, I can imagine, and thus, maybe, such sharp reactions. Of course I'm just guessing here, but the English did lose the most from all the nationalities in the latest CBOS poll (the number of people who like the English went down from 47% to 43% and those who dislike the English gained 5% - now it's 20%), so they did "lose out" more on the whole despite the fact that the Russians got the biggest fall in the "like" percentage. Data from CBOS poll nr 20/2014 "The Attitudes of Poles to Other Nations":


cbos.pl/SPISKOM.POL/2014/K_020_14.PDF
However, English people are still in the top 10 of Poles' most favourite nationalities (on the 9th place, I think - in 2012 they were on 4th place).

UK, Ireland / Modern day slavery in the UK [36]


That's sick indeed. Those people must feel pretty hopeless and helpless.


I think you could try to talk to them, inform them about their rights, I don't know, maybe give them a phone number to some normal job agency that wouldn't cheat them?

If they don't know English (or even if they do know some) it would probably be a good idea to give them those phone numbers:

Barka is a Polish NGO that has a branch in the UK helping Central and Eastern European migrants:
barkauk.org/barka-uk-free-helpline

A helpline of British police for Poles (one can speak in Polish, apparently):
mojawyspa.co.uk/artykuly/17033/Infolinia-dla-Polakow-020-7321-8289

Maybe there's also some local helpline like this one:
theguardian.com/society/2006/mar/01/guardiansocietysupplement

Other useful phone numbers and addresses:
gbritain.net/articles.php?id=11

Is there any Polish community where you live? Some Polish church or sth?

History / Royal Castle of Warsaw - Etching picture? (would like to find it's origins) [7]


Well, there you go, so it is "the Royal Castle in Warsaw". What more would you like to know?

History / Royal Castle of Warsaw - Etching picture? (would like to find it's origins) [7]

First of all, you could post a bigger photo. There's an inscription - what does it say?

News / Is this the first clear and open signal that Poland makes preparations for war with Russia? [163]


You don't have to tell me that... lol ;/
You think why Poland was so absolutely desperate to join NATO and the EU?
That's the main reason why...
You can even see it on TV these days...

News / Is this the first clear and open signal that Poland makes preparations for war with Russia? [163]


It is, when you're selectively reporting things (and Russia Today was doing this, blatantly) and give biased interpretations, etc.
I'm not saying that the Western (and Polish media) were and maybe still are always 100% objective, but I was watching Polish news channels, BBC World, CNN, Bloomberg and Russia Today and what I saw on Russia Today was simply... editing reality. You would think no protestors were shot if you watched Russia Today. It's mindblowing, even for Russia Today (I was watching RT in the past and I don't think it was ever that bad).

Barney, at one point one reporter even said that there are "pogroms" going on in Ukraine. Pogroms!


If that's what worries Putin why didn't he say anything about those guys during the press conference? He talked a lot about one of the oligarchs appointed in the East, but nothing about "Neo-Nazis" in the ministries, as far as I can remember.

We had at one point (during the PiS rule) in Poland one guy who was a leader of a far-right wing party considered to be anti-Semitic and was a chairman of the far-right All-Polish Youth organization - he (Roman Giertych) was appointed as the Deputy Prime Minister and Minister of Education because PiS needed his party to form a governmental coalition. But we survived lol And noone had to invade us (not even Israel lol). The funny thing is that some years later some Jewish organisation hired him as a laywer to fight a ban on ritual slaughter in Poland.

And here you have this former IDF soldier who says those "Neo-Nazis" aren't as bad as they are portrayed:

Of course I don't know what they really are like and Poles were also worried about UPA flags at Maidan but somehow Poland isn't invading Ukraine despite the fact that there are Poles living in Western Ukraine. And you should know that when some Poles hear the word "sotnia" they get chills. Even I had some bad associations when I was watching Cossacks hitting their drums at Maidan.

I understand concerns but that's just a temporary government and there were supposed to be democratic elections to be held in May, as far as I can remember. But now? What will happen now? Putin is creating just more chaos. And I think on purpose.

Nothing bad was happening to Russians. I doubt anything bad would happen.


The problem is that what Putin is doing is making things far worse. He's destabilising the situation in Ukraine to such an extent that it may lead to war. Don't you understand this?

And he's a liar.


Well, my Russian friend thinks he doesn't care about them.


The moderates are in the government too.


Of course he sees Ukraine in such a way. Russia always has seen these lands in such a way and treated them in such a way.

Since Poland is in the EU and NATO (thank God!) now Ukraine is "the buffer country". Poland used to be "the buffer country" between the West and Russia during the communist times, for example. According to plans of that time it could be turned into a nuclear wasteland, they didn't care...

I bet Estonia is very happy nowadays that they're in the EU and NATO. They have a big Russian minority too. And Russians call Estonians facists too. If the EU falls apart, Estonia could be next in line, probably... lol ;/

Listen, guys, we in Central Europe get heart palpitations when we see what's going on... lol We have 1938, 1956, 1968, etc. before our eyes.
You know how an ex-military Russian justified the Soviet invasions to me? It was the facists taking over in Hungary in 1956 so they had to be stopped. In Czechoslovakia in 1968 THERE WAS NO INVASION. It was "a friendly help" from allies since the government of Czechoslovakia asked for intervention :D Like Yanukovych did :D He asked, so it's all legal... Do you understand? It's all OK. It's always legal or at least justified.

What such Russians have to say about Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact? It was necessary from the point of view of Soviet interests and to protect the local people :) (or at least some of them because others were sent to gulags or shot). And there was Poland at that time anyway, the Polish government fled to the West. So it was all legal and OK. Do you know there was actually a guy who said that it was also in his country's interest to kill Polish officers in Katyń... And that he would do something like this if it was "necessary". I was getting chills when I was reading his comments.

Some Poles say that when Russian men get into military something happens to them, that they get brainwashed.
I don't know if that's the case but I've discussed with so many of them...
I'm not sure if you realise what kind of man Putin is. And in what kind of Matrix he may be living...

News / Is this the first clear and open signal that Poland makes preparations for war with Russia? [163]


My Russian friend was at that protest. It was the first illegal protest she ever participated in, but she was so angry that she didn't care anymore that she may get arrested...


Of course.

I was watching Russia Today now and then for a few days - their coverage of the crisis in Ukraine.
It was so biased with very one sided information being given that all you could call that coverage was pure, primitive propaganda. I haven't seen even once the footage of people at Maidan getting shot (I'm sure you have all seen it on Western news channels). They were only showing over and over again Berkut policeman being thrown at with a gas grenade, as far as I can remember, and "facist rioters with guns". Noone was asking the Ukrainians why are they there, reporters simply weren't talking to people in Kiev.

What was funny was that they were showing for at least a couple of days the bullet hole in a window of a hotel near Maidan where the journalists were staying that was supposed to prove that Russian journalists were targeted and it was sooo dangerous. It was being shown even after the agreement between Yanukovych and the opposition was signed.

Etc. Etc.
I suspect majority of those reporters didn't grew up in Russia so I was wondering what do they feel when they say all this load of crap. Do they have no human decency?

Now I know what one of them really thinks: youtube.com/watch?v=ZolXrjGIBJs

They said about it on Polish TV and there's info about it in Polish press: I wonder if she still works there lol

I've watched the press conference with Vladimir Putin. Now I don't doubt that Merkel really said to Obama that Putin lives "in another world". Most of it was disgusting.

What was really revolting was that he lied in the face.
He said, as far as I can remember, that the mysterious soldiers without insignia on their uniforms surrounding Ukrainian military bases and blocking airports in Crimea are local men who are members of self-defence groups o_O What?? I don't even...

There is an elite of the Russian army over there! lol Airborne forces, special forces, etc. I mean, there are photos of them, video footage, you can see what they wear, what weaponry they have, how they move, how they behave, in what way they hold their weapons even.

Local militia my ass lol

When the journalist who asked about this insisted that they look rather well equipped and dressed for local self-defence groups Putin answered that you can buy stuff like that in military shops.

(I wasn't aware that one can buy a VSS Vintorez in an on-line shop :))
Just like Ukrainian "facist" rioters from Maidan could buy such stuff, according to Putin, and who were trained, according to Putin, at... military bases in Poland and Lithuania :D I... I don't even... :D *facepalm*

When asked whether this "local militia" was trained by Russians he answered: "No".
:)
Btw, among those "facist, anti-Semitic" rioters at Maidan were former IDF soldiers who have come to live in Ukraine. One of them was a Jewish businessman and he became a leader of a group of young men at Maidan. Go figure :)

Poles coined a name for Putin. It's Putler (Putin + Hitler). Or Fiutin ("fiut" means "dick" in Polish).
Polish former Minister of Foreign Affairs A.D. Rotfeld said that history has broken off its leash.
I was afraid that something might happen eventually. I just didn't know where exactly and I didn't think that it will happen so soon and so fast...

In one discussion with smurf in Random Thread I wrote that Poland needs time and peace to develop... I hope we'll have both this time.

And I really can't believe my eyes... I didn't want to live in "interesting times" :(
I feel so, so, sooo sorry for Ukrainians... And I'm so angry. And worried.

Language / Is there a traditional expression used as a welcome? [18]


lol :)


It isn't a greeting phrase (at least nowadays). It's a proverb.


Not only foreigners :):

It's an old Polish custom, but nowadays it's usually reserved for special (and rather official) occasions, like a wedding or arrival of someone important.


No such thing. It's an old Polish proverb and it's only and always "Gość w dom - Bóg w dom.":

Each meeting consists of people, " the peace " and " political " in the Polish gentry strictly based on certain principles of politeness , especially when it took on an official character . Especially during the visits had to comply with the various formalities established , which were part of the unwritten code of social past.

It was the custom of old and widespread that in the common master, as well as in a peasant 's hut simple , always lay on the table bread and salt , which greeted guests at the thought of words contained in the title text. In many homes was also a habit of leaving a few free places at the table for men " Zagorskis " that may come up unexpectedly . Who came only in the thresholds home with a sword at his waist - a man of the knighthood , and gave honor to the host , had the right to sit with him to the table. For good tone should also expect visitors , especially when the visit was announced . Watch for them then in the morning , and many homes were sent up to the roof servant to this urgent follow if the guest arrives . When the servant gave to know that the vehicle is approaching from the guests to the house , everything that lived , was moving in greeting. A sign of respect was a photo of the cap, which is often accompanied by a beautiful bow. It was low , and the host put his left hand on the heart, the right and headed toward the ground . Welcome and farewell social was often the kiss , which was dependent on the situation , people and their age. The fashion was also kissing the hand , but used it only for older people . Mostly kissed the hand of elderly matron , serious ladies , very rare adult virgins .

niedziela.pl

When Poles greet guests they usually say "Witamy!" (or doubled: "Witamy, witamy!" :)) or simply greet them with "Hello", etc. If the guests aren't close family or people you know well Poles may also add "serdecznie" and it's going to be: "Witamy serdecznie", for example.


The correct version (or at least most commonly used) is the old Polish version: "Gość w dom - Bóg w dom". Without "-u" at the end.