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Bratwurst Boy   
18 Dec 2010
Language / The Future of Polish Language [179]

You and others of your generation are the biproduct of a drug-infested educational system that has watered down both education as well as the need for standards.

Since I'm more the product of a firm communist education system I doubt that very much...;)

PS: Interesting observation....even as our "big brother" was the Sovietunion and Russian was compulsory at school for decades I don't remember any russian load words which made their way into GDR German...

(Matrjoshka and Soljanka doesn't count!) ;)
Bratwurst Boy   
18 Dec 2010
Language / The Future of Polish Language [179]

This whole articifial concept of youth speaking "differently" from their elders only started to come about during the suburbia sub-(pop-)culture of late 50' America.

There is absolutely nothing artificial about it.
That is a part of growing up, segregating themselves from the grown ups...finding their own ways, their own clothing style, revolting, developing their own language.

You can read books about that...Nothing new or artificial about it.

Prior to that, youth and elders spoke the same way - maturly and in a more or less educated, well-schooled fashion!

That is just not true! ;)

There would never had been any development of language if the youth did everything as the Elders did!

And this was the beginning of the end!

Poor Lyzko!

Grown ups moaning about the youth....nothing new here either! :)
Bratwurst Boy   
18 Dec 2010
Language / The Future of Polish Language [179]

I think you must differentiate between the language families. It's much easier for a German to "absorb" loads of english (familiarity) than for the roman languages french and italian.
Bratwurst Boy   
18 Dec 2010
Language / The Future of Polish Language [179]

An interesting aside.

Or a third aspect: Fashion.

A big parts of the developments of a language belongs to the slang and the youth speak. It's cool for the youngster to invent and use new words...compared to the boring oldies.

Doesn't matter if the first use was in english or german or french or polish...a few years later it will be part of the language (if it is seen as cool enough!).

Think generation MTV or Youtube ;)

Actually that's a question I wonder about. What if China becomes so computer savy and a real free democratic country that it will be a big (maybe the biggest) part of the internet and media community (1 Billion people after all).

Will chinese words also gain entry into our western speak? Chinese is so very much different....
Bratwurst Boy   
18 Dec 2010
Language / The Future of Polish Language [179]

Why, for heaven's sake?

My bow to english being the language of this board! ;)

(But I'm fairly sure in a few years "s" will rule the "z") ! :):):)
Bratwurst Boy   
18 Dec 2010
Language / The Future of Polish Language [179]

Globalization! ;)

Languages are changing all the time. We all would had problems to communicate with our ancestors (doesn't matter which country and which language) from 100 years back. 500 years back it would be near impossible.

As many developed, interconnected western countries use more and more english as the main way to communicate with each other and loan words change the native languages it goes also the other way around.

English in 100 years will have changed greatly since alot of foreign loan words will have made their way into Oxfords dictionary and other countries "corruptions" of once fine grammar will have become modern accepted speak.

It's a give and take!
Bratwurst Boy   
18 Dec 2010
Language / The Future of Polish Language [179]

but I guess German would not be so much German if it used just as many latin words as English does ;)

Say thank you to Arminius and the battle of the Teutoburg Forest in 9 AD. :)

Had the Romans won the germanic language would had changed greatly or even gone extinct. No German, no anglo/saxon English (no Shakespeare!) etc.
Our fate would had been that of the Gauls. Culturally and linguistically. The common language of the biggest part of Europe today would be latin.

Today the biggest part of english is german, french and latin...a real european mix! :)
Bratwurst Boy   
12 Dec 2010
Life / What is the reason for POLISH jokes ? [486]

Which of them are portrayed as utterly stupid, this being their predominant feature?

Would you want to exchange with other predominant features if you could? Honest question here...Do you think "dumb" is worse than "nazi"?
Bratwurst Boy   
12 Dec 2010
Life / What is the reason for POLISH jokes ? [486]

LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Well...at least I made you laugh! :)

WHO is to say who the arbiter or judge is to say when something is meant to hurt somebody and when its not??

I think mentioning "murderer" or "blood" etc. disqualifies as funny...but then, tastes differ!
Bratwurst Boy   
8 Dec 2010
History / Former American President Adams in Poland. [54]

"He even heard a church sermon in Polish, attesting to the fact that a substantial minority of Poles lived in Prussian Breslau at the time."

Umm...why shouldn't they.
No expulsions at that time...
Bratwurst Boy   
8 Dec 2010
History / Former American President Adams in Poland. [54]

...in Germany...you mean surely!

In the year 1800, John Quincy Adams, the U.S. Minister to Prussia, undertook a two month tour of Silesia, then part of Prussia. He detailed his experiences in a series of letters to his brother. It was a thoroughly German area in that time (Western Silesia) ...

Bratwurst Boy   
8 Dec 2010
News / Poles don't have a heart for math... says The New York Times [84]

What a jacked up comparison BB, seriously. Concentration camps and extermination gulags versus jobs for NASA, etc

Well...the repercussions for the country left without their brightest was similiar!

But still no reason to blame current lackings! I wrote that to show that losing your intelligentsia can't be blamed for lacking intelligence 3 generations later.

And that is implied by certain postings...
Bratwurst Boy   
8 Dec 2010
News / Poles don't have a heart for math... says The New York Times [84]

I thought they just kidnapped all the German rocket scientists and took them to America? ;)

As did the Russians with their booty...
And it wasn't only rocket scientists! German high tech and their inventors belonged to the spoils of the war for the victors. They combed the whole country for it. Okay...they didn't shot them but they took them and the technologies, inventions, scientists and patents from the Germans nonetheless.

But you can blame happenings from 60 years back only for so long.
Bratwurst Boy   
8 Dec 2010
News / Poles don't have a heart for math... says The New York Times [84]

The Nazis DID wipe out a large portion of the Polish intelligentsia,

Well..if it consoles you so did the victorious allies with the german "intelligentsia" after they won.

We were forcefully brain drained too...but nobody here whines about it still for 60 years after!
Bratwurst Boy   
7 Dec 2010
Genealogy / Ochmann: Curious about my Family History.... [29]

There's another option of course, he might have been either Polonized or Germanized. It depends on whether his first or last name was changed at some point of his or his ancestors life.

Family names are better indicators...first names are changing in every generation, after the fashion of the time often...but the family name stays and lives on in our regions because of the customs (female takes male name after the marriage) with the males.

So The Last name was probably changed but definately not the first name... Unless there is something I dont know

It's the other way around...it's the last name that stands. First names are changed quite easily.
Bratwurst Boy   
7 Dec 2010
Genealogy / Ochmann: Curious about my Family History.... [29]

Silesians were quite a mixed bunch....Marek Ochmann would be rather typical! :)

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marek

Marek is a Czech, Polish and Slovak given name, the equivalent of Mark in English.

Czech/polish/slovak name + german surname = Silesian! :)

The meaning of the name Marek is Warlike

So...your dad was a warlike man from the water! :)
Bratwurst Boy   
7 Dec 2010
Genealogy / Ochmann: Curious about my Family History.... [29]

302 Ochmann's in Germany.
"Ochmann" is a german surname and means "the man from the water".

yasni.de/ochmann/name+verzeichnis

You are most probably of german/silesian heritage...be proud, me too! :)
Bratwurst Boy   
3 Dec 2010
News / Victory in 'anti-Polish camps' campaign in US [170]

Some Poles were recruited in 1944 to the so-called Polnische Wehrmacht, part of which was later transformed to Waffen SS.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polnische_Wehrmacht_(WWII)

Interesting article...but it never came to a Waffen-SS formation.

When joining the force, a Pole signed the following obligation which was equivalent with the text of oath :

I oblige myself to fight against Bolshevism in voluntary service of German armed forces. I will put all diligence into guarding against Bolshevism my nation, as well as European and whole civilized world. I oblige myself to unconditionally and obediently execute my military superiors' orders and to be a good colleague...

It seems Harry was right all along...there had been ethnic Poles (not DVL) voluntarily fighting in the german forces..
And who knows, if Hitler hadn't been so adamantly against it for so long...there might have been a fully fledged polish Waffen-SS unit fighting on the eastern front!
Bratwurst Boy   
3 Dec 2010
News / Victory in 'anti-Polish camps' campaign in US [170]

I thought they were fanatical racists seeing Poles as Untermensch BB?

Things weren't as black and white as some describe it.

Even up to 1939 Hitler still hoped to get an agreement with Poland. Poland was offered an alliance, and he would had even given up all claims to Danzig if Poland would at least agree to neutrality and don't hinder the german forces gathering at the border, preparing for the one true enemy of Hitler, Stalin's Russia.
Bratwurst Boy   
3 Dec 2010
News / Victory in 'anti-Polish camps' campaign in US [170]

Umm...na ja...inviting non-germans of germanic stock once the war had started wasn't seen as choosy(contrary to the more colorful units of later like the bosnian muslim unit etc. - THAT was pure desperation!), but as building of a truly aryan european army so to speak. Once accepted they had the same duties and privileges and they had to be obeyed like german officers.

There was a strong sense of international brotherhood on a kind of a holy crusade...nationalities ceased to matter.