Life / Why are Muslims seen as a deterrent to Poland? [564]

It appears Slovakia also has a nice fat goose egg. I wonder if said map which has been circulated in the media includes all terror attacks (i.e. rightwing, leftwing, civilians high jacking planes which was common in the Warsaw Pact countries, etc.) or strictly Islamic terror.

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@mafketis

Thanks but not enough land and privacy for me.

It's not just poles complaining the eu is pushing far left laws and regulations same w Brits hence brexit along w a bunch of countries in eastern Europe. The citizens appreciate thr economics and free movement but not the migrant dictates along w e a lot of other b.s.. like I said these countries including pl follow 99% of what eu tells them but certain things are a red line

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Waszczykowski also told Polish Radio 1 on Friday that "the situation in the EU is changing" and that "a growing number of member states and politicians see that the European Commission is overstepping its prerogatives."

The commission, the EU's executive arm, is "becoming a political body instead of a technical one that should monitor the observance of European treaties and the four freedoms described in them," according to Waszczykowski.

USA, Canada / Polish people/store/restaurants in Chicago [7]

@Joker

Most the polish buffets are garbage esp okd warsaw. There was a pretty decent restaurant called Lutnia that served czech and polish food including items like duck blood soup ala czernina. There's a half decent one on Milwaukee in Niles but I forget thr name. Idk why so many pl restaurants went buffet style. I guess that was the thing in the 90s and 2000s but now generally buffets except for the pricey brunches at fancy hotels are generally considered low end and not very tasty.

Yea we moved out to the northern burbs too. Less taxes less crime far more republicans better schools no traffic - same reasons as why poles escaped the city esp once they had kids.

There a still poles on Belmont and there prollyalways will be but there's less and less now esp as more Hispanics move into those areas. They're hard working and contribute to the economy so I don't have anything against em. I work w Hispanics esp Mexicans and guatemalens everyday. No wonder blacks and lazy Americans say tge Mexicans are taking their jobs lol

Work / Native English looking for a teaching job in Poland [135]

Actually I am technically employed in Poland via my import export company. And no I would never teach esp not in pl anyway unless at the college level. Working 50 hour weeks to scratch at most 1 2 grand a month doesn't sound too appealing

2nd I am going off Doug's 70z an hour advert along with those online.

The amount of teachers/translators/etc making 8k zs let alone 15k is a minority and nowhere near the mean, that is fact

Again, I clearly stated that yes state schools have such requirements, certain private schools do not.

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If pis introduced gay marraige (which p.o. didn't even dare to do and instead settled on unions), accepted a bunch of migrants, legalized drugs, allowed transistor bathrooms, dissolved the relationship between the Catholic church and government, and allowed German and eu interests to totally take over Poland esp in the financial arena thered be riots in the streets. One of the main reasons why p.o. lost is bc of their kowtowing to eu and agreeing to take in migrants. It was game over for them. Poles will never forget that

News / EU confirms it will take action against Poland over court reforms [554]

@mafketis

Actually I do want pl to be in the eu... But but not be forced to accept migrants and handle it's own internal affairs. Most poles feel the same way

They fail to realize over 40% of poles support pos and Kaczynski and thinking such actions won't affect poles is ridiculous. Sounds like a play to simply give more money to Soros ngos

Either way, pis has won the fight with the eu as far as migrants so Atleast poles can rest assured our record of ZERO Islamic terror attacks will remain intact.. For now

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@mafketis

Maybe they knew something we didn't with Walesa lol...

The solidarnosc people were mostly patriots. These leftist traitors have put their loyalty into a supranational political union over their own motherland. That is shameful. Even if I disagreed with pis and I certainly often do, I would never have voted to suspends Poland's voting rights as is weakens the entire country and affects all citizens amd residents indirectly

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They can make all the threats they want. They have no teeth to enforce it. This only furthers the divide between east and west. In the end this is about the courts and rule of law anyway, the eu have up on forcing Poland to take migrants and that's good enough for me.

Poland and Hungary have a friendship going back centuries. Poles and Hungarians are closer than even Czechs and possibly even more so than lithuanians.

The poles who voted for it's own suspension ought to be tried for treason. Back in the day such traitors would be hanged

Total scum... And p.o. wonders why they have half the local support of pis...

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Euro is doing terrible. It's barely recovered since going consistently down since 2014. That's why Poland doesn't want to adopt the Euro. Not to mention that they'd totally up control of currency in their own country.

The states east of Germany are primarily interested in the economic aspects of the European union - not the political which was not a big deal and the countries generally got along since its creation till basically the 2010's - especially once Merkel and her fellow Brussels and German cronies like Schultz, Timmermans, and Juncker started issuing dictates that were against what millions of people wanted in their own country. So naturally citizens are going to be against a person they did not vote for esp when they're trying to push extreme changes in their countries. For 20 years it worked great till the far leftists started trying to dismantle the idea of the nation and push multiculturalism, de-Christianization and immigrants on the millions of European citizens who rejected such things.

Well, they refuse to find a middle ground and respect the fact we don't want to become countries full of immigrants from ME and Africa and want our Christian and national traditions to remain. Poland along with tens of millions of people and their conservative governments are behind this and are rejecting this part of the EU. Believe it, it won't just be Poland and Hungary who are bucking the EU. More are thinking the same way but playing along... for now... Czechy and Slovakia also said they don't want migrants. The EU isn't even as concerned anymore with the migrant issue but rather is punishing PL and Hungary because of supposed 'rule of law' violations and the far left financier Soros told his EU puppets to attack PL and Hungary - especially since the countries have been digging up dirt and sacking Soros offices and closing his socialist pushing university.

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I believe so too... A lot of people maybe dislike the original ideology behind it but I don't think Poles believe it merits destruction...

It's often referred to as 'pajac kultury' meaning 'the joker of culture' (palac and pajac interchanged)

USA, Canada / Polish people/store/restaurants in Chicago [7]

@DominicB

Montrose deli also. Old Warsaw is a popular restaurant and looks nice inside but thr good isn't that good imo. Jolly inn which is close by has better food and is cheaper. There's also a few businesses and liquor stores owned by poles in Jefferson park esp near Copernicus center.

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You guys forget that tens of millions people and the right wing governments theyve elected esp in countries east of Germany such as pl, hungary, austria, czechy, slovakia, the baltics, bulgaria, and even northern italians, denmark, etc all feel the eu can stuff it. It is a political union that was brought in the back door and instead of uniting nations like it had in the past it is now pushing a far left agenda and is no doubt dominated by Germany amd Brussels. Even british citizens voted to leave yet I feel that the eurocrats will drag it out and force them to stay. Eu will divide between east amd West lest they come to an agreement. Obviously thr migrant issue and the dwindling euro are big on the agenda. These countries obey 99% of eu rules and laws but rhe migrant issue is a red line for many of these countries and the people in them.

@dolnoslask
The poles paid for the palace of culture lol the Soviets made us pay it out of our own budget. But personally I think it is a beautiful building reminds us of our history. Auschwitz is also a place of death and repression yet most ppl wouldn't want to close it or demolish it.

Work / Native English looking for a teaching job in Poland [135]

@kaprys

With state schools yes, you're right. I've heard of numerous private schools though hiring native speakers who don't have a bachelor's in English and usually just have like a TEFL or whatever certification.

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No it doesn't. The two are unrelated. We didn't ask for the host nations to rent us out a cruise ship and put us up in hotels, while demanding that they give us money so we can buy pierogi, placki, schabowe as well as send some back home (which migrants openly say they send money back to Syria/Iraq/etc in numerous interviews) because we don't like the food they give us for free. We came to work in those countries and the EU rules allowed us to. If the Muslims become EU citizens, they too can work in Poland if they decide to.


Actually, they're aiming to be a net payee by the 2020's and already pay in around a bil a year while taking 7-9bil in investment funds. Hopefully the EU collapses first due to the leftists' refusal to compromise and desire to destroy Christian European society so Poland can just leave and not have to pay any money but still gets to enjoy the infrastructure the Germans, Brits, etc funded. Talk about having your cake and eating it too.

And timmermans was appointed, Juncker was chosen by MEP's which are full of far left radicals from Germany, Belgium, France, etc.

politico.eu/article/timmermans-takes-poland-complaints-to-the-people
This is a year old - timmermans still hasn't been able to do sh1t to Poland

All unelected Eurocrats can do bark and bark and bark but never bite - and it looks like they never will.

'Where's the legitimacy?' Poland hits out at EU's 'unelected bureaucrats' in new row
newsbreakouts.com/wheres-the-legitimacy-poland-hits-out-at-eus-unelected-bureaucrats-in-new-row

"Fortunately, this activity of Mr. Timmermans is not taken seriously by the ratings agencies, by investors or by business people."
Absolutely true. Despite the losers and zaKODowani's claims, FDI continues to flow in, unemployment hit a new record low, and the economy is chugging along and growing more than Germany, France, etc.

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Its already happening slowly but surely with V4 + Austria now cozying up to us.

Work / Native English looking for a teaching job in Poland [135]


Eh not totally... you can do the ESL/TEFL or whatever certification and if you're a native speaker you can still get a gig at a grade school/high school teaching English as there is a big demand...

But yes, unlike other countries, in PL you generally need at least a bachelor's plus native English plus certification to teach the subject... in other countries i.e. China, Taiwan, (and increasingly Thailand), etc which pays more, being a native speaker is more than enough.

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My college roomie taught out there. He was doing around 2.5k USD a month plus room and board covered. Similar to China. Far more financially rewarding than Poland. And if you're a good looking western male - you've got it made. Western looks and being a native English speaker often trumps experience and education in China. Watch VICE's 'rent a white guy' for example...


The 70 z an hour is an example of what a member of this forum charges for tutoring lessons. If you look on adverts online for 1 on 1 tutoring i.e. preply.com/en/skype/polish-tutors

Note that NONE of the people advertising here that are charging $20 an hour have a single lesson while a girl charging $8 an hour has had 1,600 lessons and guy charging $9 has had 700 lessons....

youll see almost every charges between $6 to $20 - if they're very experienced and educated, fluent in 3 languages they can perhaps ask for $20 an hour - doesn't mean they'll get it as evidenced by the fact that not one tutor charging $20 an hour booked a lesson while those charging $8 $9 an hour have had hundreds, even thousands of lessons.... The fact is though, like lawyers and other people who do contract/hourly work, they are rarely filling up all 40 hours of the week every single week, every month with tutoring or bill by hour type of independent work.

According to jobmonkey.com - 'For one-on-one tutoring in Poland, you should be able to get between 15 and 20 zloty per hour, which roughs out to between US$6 and $8 per hour.'

Also - firsttutors.com
‎Price range: £9 to £90 per hour (Typically: £18 per hour) - and this is UK rates - not PL

People who have masters/doctorates can charge 20 30 pounds plus but not in PL for 1 on 1- note though that all these people are outside of PL though (mostly UK it looks like) - firsttutors.com/uk/tutor/katarzyna.polish.1

Other sources: delphs post - You'll find that in those places, they'll give you accommodation and in/around 2000zl a month net - which isn't a bad amount of cash for the first year from https://polishforums.com/work/poland-finding-warsaw-english-53125/2/

Here are tutors in pl advertising their services - findmyfavouriteteacher.com/students-searchresult.php?mode=search&language=English&country=172&country2=Poland&state=any&city=Warsaw

1st person charges 50 zl per hour
2nd person charges 100 zl per hour
3rd person charges 40 zl per hour (30 zl for group with up to 5)
4th person charges 100 zl per hour
All individuals appear to be fluent in both Polish and English. Hence 70 zs is a good estimate but nonetheless still on the higher scale.
Josh who claims to have been teaching for 7 years charges 60 zl an hour which is close to pf member's 70 z rate.
Another male further down who also appears to be a native speaker and has been teaching for several years charged 80 z's.

What a person asks for his services, and how much business he or she will actually book are often two different things - as we can see by the preply.com example...


That's because few English speaking natives are willing to work for less than what they'd make in a McDonald's back in the US/UK, especially if they have a degree. Unless they want to go to Poland just to backpack, travel, and dick around but its definitely not a lucrative career a US/UK expat can provide for a family of 3+ on.

$650 - $950 USD (2,500 - 3,600 PLN)
internationalteflacademy.com/countries/europe/poland/poland-teaching-english-overseas-jobs

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No he is not. Not by Polish people, not by German people, or any other EU nation. He is elected by the E Parliament which is stuffed with leftists from Germany, France, etc. and other countries attempting to push their 'burden' on countries who have nothing to do with the migrant crisis and do not want them. These people should be investigated for their collusion with Soros organization pushing for no borders and open migration along with the destruction of Christian Europe and religious and patriotic Slavs and V4 citizens but that's another story...


Good for them. So far its over 2 years and no migrants forced upon Poland from the EU, and no Islamic terror - despite us taking in over a million Ukranians ON OUR OWN because WE decided we wanted to. There will be no migrants forced upon Poland - and I think the marches on Saturday proved that. 75% of Poles reject migration from ME and Africa (source: CBOS).

Besides, Poland doesn't want to join the Eurozone because its weak and is gradually becoming a net payee. All they can do is try to withhold EU funds, which to my understanding are set anyway till something like 2019-2020 if not later. The problem is far too many countries and citizens East of Germany are rejecting the EU's dictates and becoming increasingly nation oriented and rejecting migration.

Work / Native English looking for a teaching job in Poland [135]

Either way... we're still talking about far less compensation than an English teacher/tutor/etc would make in other countries that have even lower average wages than PL - like China for example. If you're going to teach to make money, Poland is NOT the place for it... Germany, France, China, S. Korea, Japan, Kuwait, Saudi, UAE, heck even Turkey in a way, etc. you'll make far more teaching English than in Poland - if we're going by MEAN salaries - not the top 5% that you're buddy makes and which no Polish or English source can confirm.

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Again,

In order to make 10k a month EITHER a teacher would have to have a 4k zloty teaching job(already at the high end) PLUS work 20 hours a weektutoring at 70z's an hour, every single week 20 hours ON TOP of a full time job teaching job - that is possible like doug said IF they work 7 days a week (sounds like a great life)

Even then theyd come out at 9600 z's a month - just under 10k (5600 for 80 hours a month of tutoring at 70 z's plus 4k Z's for teaching job - both at the high end and far above themean earnings)

OR

They'd have to have at least 160 hour long tutoring sessions a month (40 hours a week, every week) at 70z's a pop (then theyd get to 11k) - However, considering tutoring is apart time job and primarily takes place when the student is out of school/work - i.e. nights and weekends, that is an impossibility.


According to you, notmultiple Polish sources [/b ]which I have posted that state at most they make [b]5k zloty a month. Please provide sources that state translators/tutors/etc make 10k, 15k zl a month or you still cant because none exist?

I'm sure there's a few people who do translating/tutoring and make 10k if they perhaps operate a small business and have contracts with government or corps OR are a person who speaks both polish and English (or a 3rd language) fluently and has decades of experience... however, 10k+ represents the very very top of earners - the median salary, as proven by polish sources, along with our friend dougs advert of 70z's an hour, shows what the reality is....

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Economy yes - a very healthy rapidly growing one at that... Court systems, bureaucracy, etc. no way.


In certain aspects, absolutely. Poles are hesitant to make certain changes when a sort of 'gray' situation benefits them.

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Of course they won't because they know Poland, Hungary, Czech and now Austria are all united in their position on the EU's political infringement especially as it pertains to Merkels' now labeled burden which was previously referred to as cultural enrichment. Eastern and Western Europe are totally divided on this issue. The EU has in secret pushed a political union upon European citizens with a commission whom the people did not vote for. Even when countries rejected parts of the EU's dictates, like Holland, they just brought it in the back door anyway. Their far left socialist stance is only dividing Europe. They refuse to have a comprehensive realistic debate on how to solve the migrant crisis not to mention other issues like the unstable and declining Euro.

The v4 + 1 (Austria) is going to have each other's back esp PL and Hungary. Like PiS said, there is nothing the EU can do that is worse than forcing migrants onto PL. This has left the unelected douchebags like Juncker and his biatch I mean deputy Timmermans scratching their head along with Merkel - who refuses to even hold a German flag...

Poland doesn't even want to enter the Eurozone anyway... it's also rejected the IMF while at the same time growing its FDI consistently for a decade and rebuilding the entire country - with EU investments being used wisely and not to build stadiums like in Greece or any of the PIGS countries which are using the euro. Poland's growth is consistently outpacing Germany, France, etc. We've done without the Euro and can easily continue to. EU's problem is that Poland, V4, and even people involved with Brexit has called it's bluff time and time again. They cannot enforce their dictates without a pyrrhic victory.

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That is the only way it'd be possible and at most you'd make 10k - this would undoubtedly be the top 1-5% of English grade school/high school teachers and a good portion of that would come from tutoring/translating on the side. Even the 70z's im using as an example it would be possible - but only if one was a full time teacher making 4k (already a high salary by pl standards) plus making 70 z's per hour, 20 hours a week average every week, then yes they could manage to get into 10k z's plus. Both a 4k salary for an English teacher and 70 z's is high. Most people, according to both English and Polish sources - statistics, surveys, etc. show that the averages are closer to $500-$1k. Translators at the top making 5k. Tutors on average charge 40zl - which is about write when pulling up people advertising their services at anywhere from $5-$20 an hour, and doug being 70 zloty - about 30z's more than the average although he is more skilled than the 'average' Polish-English tutor/translator. I'm talking about mean salaries - not the very top. Warsaw of course have a bit higher wages than most of PL. However, Warsaw metro accounts for only a few mil out of around 40 million people. Even professors in Polish Uni's don't make 10k unless they're in some super high position like dean or president or some department chair.

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No way you can make 10k as a grade school/high school English teacher in PL. Not unless you're tutoring for 70zl an hour (Doug's wage, which is rather on the higher side as it is) for 20 hours a week on top of being a full time teacher, and doing all the 20 hours a week of tutoring at 70z an hour (a near impossibility unless yes you work 7 days a week) and are also making 4k-5k as a teacher - you'd have to work 60-65 hour weeks to manage that.

The fact is average salaries- again we're talking about averages not some top 1% salary that you're buddy or whoever makes - for english teachers (the topic of the thread and title) are closer to $500-$1k. In Eastern Poland, especially in smaller towns the salary is as low as 2,500 zl for an English teacher.


That market has changed quite a bit in the past 5 years.

Work / Native English looking for a teaching job in Poland [135]

Here's some more sources:

Yeah the top quarter of translators make 5500 brutto :

przysiegly-angielski-miw.pl/blog/ile-zarabia-tlumacz-przysiegly
Najwyższe stawki otrzymają tłumacze pracujący w obrębie języków pozaeuropejskich, które nie posługują się alfabetem łacińskim - są to na przykład chiński czy japoński. Za stronę tłumaczenia z takiego języka na polski obowiązuje stawka 33,61 zł, zaś za stronę tłumaczenia na ten język - 49,54 zł.

The highest salaries are those working in non-European languages which do not have a Latin alphabet - for example Chinese and Japanese. The wages for translating from these kind of languages into Polish are 33.61 zl and 49.54 zl for Polish into the language.

So even at Doug's 70zl an hour, which is at the way high end for tutoring, it's still 8k a month at most - and that's assuming 40 hours of tutoring a week, which wouldn't occur due to the simple fact that tutors typically work when their students are available - namely on nights and weekends when they're off work and school.

przykładowo jedna godzina tłumaczenia z języka angielskiego na polski przyniosłaby tłumaczowi 30 zł w trybie normalnym lub 46 zł w trybie przyspieszonym.

English translation - 46 zl average

careego.pl/tlumacz-przysiegly
Ich miesięczne wynagrodzenie oscyluje w granicach od3 000 do 5 000 złotych.
Translator makes 3k - 5k zl... not 15k like harry is implying... the rare time that would be a possibility is if a corporation/biz/government hires someone to teach a group on a contract - in which case it is contract work, not a guaranteed full time salary. Again, just as with lawyers or even IT pro's, they charge more per hour/per contract to make up for the fact that they are rarely doing a full 2080 hours a year every year.


In the schools yes, there are a lot of openings. And generally you need a bachelor's plus a foreign language teaching course. But with private English tutors, there's a ton of them. And Polish students esp who are at the beginning stages of English will generally hire a Polish-English bilingual person who charges 1/2 of a native speaker, unless the native speakers (often their 1st choice) are closer to the price of local poles/ukranians who mastered English.

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Also, the market is saturated with English speakers. Back in the early EU days up to maybe 2010 this was a decent career. Not anymore due to the sheer amount of competition and so many people speaking fluent English.


The only skills you need to teach English in a grade school/high school is to be a native speaker and pay for some ESL/TEFL course or whatever it called and preferably a bachelor's degree as well. The requirements are roughly the same if you want to teach English in China, Saudi, or Poland. The only way I can see an English teacher being in somewhat more demand is if he or she knew additional languages. Actually, in China you can make far more teaching English than Poland and you don't even need a bachelor's - being a native speaker is enough while in PL generally schools require both a bachelors and are a native speak.

Work / Native English looking for a teaching job in Poland [135]


You're right - I am not an English teacher/tutor/translator. My experience and knowledge come from being a Polish speaker, Polish citizen and having 3 family members who are professors/teachers along with the experience of many posters here who are teachers. For example, Doug advertises tutoring for 70 zl an hour. In order to make 15k zl a month, he would need to have 214 hour long tutoring sessions at 70 z's an hour within a month. Considering a work month is usually 160 hours (actually 173.33 if we're going by 2080 hours/12 for average month) and tutoring is a part time job, such a wage would be impossible.

But yes, there are people who are employed by corporations and small biz and even government to tutor, translate, etc. Those were the 'business english' people I referred to earlier which I also stated command higher wages than the average English teacher in high school/grade school and an English tutor of children and adults. However, they are not making 15k - such a salary is the top % of Polish salaries and is usually limited to those working in management, IT, high level government, successful small biz, finance, etc.


Again, there are people on this forum who are teachers, translators, etc. I pointed out Doug as an example as I am not an English teacher. Furthermore, labor statistics and surveys confirm that the average teacher in a Polish grade school/high school makes $500-$1k a month.

Even if you go on indeed.com and look for translator polish/English jobs in uk the most they pay is 20k pounds - which is more than they'd make in Poland.

To those people who live in Poland, ask a few people today how much Polish teachers, tutors, etc make. They'll tell you even as low as 2,200 zl for teachers, up to 4k if they're lucky for grade schools/high schools, $6-$20 tops for part time independent tutors, and around 5k 6k up to 8k with a lot of experience for translators.

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@cms
Money power respect women all go hand in hand. Same in pl, same in us, same in uk, China, saudi etc

Again the thread is 'native English looking for a teaching job in poland.' Anyone who either teaches in Poland or knows about modern polish society will tell the op that yes although a noble profession, by oecd orcs and polish standards it is low paying and an educated English speaker can get a far better paying job

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And besides even at 50z an hour x a full 160 biz hours a month, assuming 40 hours a week are all filled w sessions which would be near impossible is 8k zs. Not much money...

Yes, people like Doug who advert 70 zs an hour... thatd be 11k z assuming 160 hours of sessions a month. No tutor is filling a full 40 hours every single month with sessions all at 70 z an hour. It simply is impossible due to scheduling.

I've taken tutoring for subjects and world over most tutors operate part time on nights or weekends unless they're hired by like a tutoring corporation in which case they may earn good money but not thr same hourly rate theyd they charge independently. Tutors like lawyers charge a lot per hour bc they're rarelt able to fill 2080 business hours a year.