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Ironside   
22 Dec 2015
News / Polish university professor who plotted to assassinate the former president jailed [14]

You are on the wrong track.
I'm saying that the ISA found a dude with a slight mental issues who was talking a lot about awful state of affairs in the Polish politics and started talking big about how it would be good to blow them away and bragging a little that he has a knowledge how to build a big bomb.

Students were talking back and forth and it was all there was and there ever to be. All that had to do was to monitor him just in case.

However some guys in the previous government learned about that and decided to use that case and this guy to blacken reputation of the opposition as he was claiming to be a patriot and giving off about government quite openly.

So, they send agents who told him - OK we are willing to do it - what is you plan and then lead him step by step to the movement when they had enough to present it as a case to the persecution office. In fact there was never a danger of the actual action taking place.

Maybe, but it would have to be proved he is actually suffering from a mental illness first.

Did they even want to? After all it would expose a lot of well placed people.
Ironside   
22 Dec 2015
Life / Inappropriately Touching a Baby - What are the cultural Norms in Poland? [12]

Maluch - when Dziadek came over 'oh so cute baby!' and kiss-kiss-kiss.... little kisses right on the baby's Penis!!!

Really? Maybe it was belly. Highly unusual if you are right.

Maluch - Where is the line drawn?

Where definitely you are not going around groping children by their private parts or kissing children there. Are you 100% certain that you are not mistaken? Maybe grandpa is blind?

On the other hand they could be progressives, a family ahead of times,and you are just a conservative type.
Ironside   
22 Dec 2015
News / Poland to end state funding for IVF treatment [102]

Would your view be any different if it was your wife who could not get pregnant and you have religiously been trying every day for the last 5 years?

I'm sorry to disappoint you but my view wouldn't be any different. .
Ironside   
22 Dec 2015
News / Poland to end state funding for IVF treatment [102]

This treatment is what many people want.

Regardless what people wants this treatment never should be founded from money on Health Service in the first place.

two thirds of Poles opposed any ban on IVF treatment

We need to be debating in some kind of order. We are not talking here about banning that treatment altogether or about 500 zl per child but about founding IVF from money put aside for the Health Service in Poland.

Kopacz argued that by introducing regulations and funding it through the health service, it was better than not having any regulations.

She was wrong or she lied as usual. If she wanted introduce regulations she could have.

It depends on a persons' beliefs, obviously.

Indeed but putting aside rights or wrongs of that treatment we could talk about wrong of using a health service resources to pay for that treatment.
Ironside   
22 Dec 2015
News / Polish university professor who plotted to assassinate the former president jailed [14]

By who, and to what end?

By the same guys who were not too long in charge in Poland and now are going bonkers when their interests are jeopardized.
To smear opposition as extremist and fascist.

Sounds like a conspiracy theory to me.

that only tell us that it sounds like a conspiracy theory to you.

Glad he was found guilty though

Why? I think that guy should get a proper mental care instead of 13 years in prison.
Ironside   
22 Dec 2015
Law / Poland's form of Government - 'the winner takes all' [23]

Poland is not rejecting it, it's a single party that is trying to do so against the Constitution.

BS and lies!
So far when the previous ruling party had all reins in their hands nobody was going bonkers and hysterical. Out of the sudden the same what was OK and dandy while PO was doing it, is terrible and against Constitution when PiS is ruling.

Primitive agenda.

There's a very good reason why the President doesn't have unlimited powers here and why no such veto exists.

TK is not infallible and has been acting lately like a political body and in unlawful way. Its ruling are at lest questionable.

Essentially, it has become a "cooling saucer" of popular sentiment masquerading as a court.

Spot on!

The President in Poland does not have any real veto powers. as the Constitution makes clear.

He does have veto powers.

As for the Constitution - it won't get changed

Of course it can be changed they are even talking about that right now.

And secondly, he is committing a crime now

Said a criminal.

You are welcome to visit Poland, but do remember that Americans need visas to stay here for more than 90 days.

Stop your ad hominem trolling.
Ironside   
21 Dec 2015
Language / Polish minority languages [13]

Both Ukrainian and Belorussian have many dialects

Question is are their languages in their own right or just dialects of the Polish language.
Ironside   
21 Dec 2015
News / Poland to end state funding for IVF treatment [102]

the British taxpayer is funding

Poles in Britain are paying taxes too you know. What are you ranging about anyway and what it has to do with Poland?

all children are equal, but some are more equal than others.......

What? Get a grip!
Ironside   
21 Dec 2015
History / Chance of Lwów once again became coming part of Poland [344]

The Allies (well, except Russia) supported Poland because it weakened Germany

The only country that supported Poland was France (and somewhat America) after Russia fell to Bolsheviks, but supporting Poland and supporting Polish awakening is not the same thing.

Also both some Poles and nationalistic Ukrainian were subject of the Austrian Kaiser, who would support all minorities in their real in order to set them against each other and to maintain ensemble of balance where Hapsburgs could rule. Alas in this world Kaiser supported Ukrainian awakening in his country by supporting those people who fancied themselves a separated nation.
Ironside   
21 Dec 2015
News / Demonstrations in Poland in defence of democracy. [2554]

Irrelevant.

Why talk about it then?

They've got nothing to lose

They have 1,29 billions of euro investments plus 80 billons wroth of trade. I wouldn't call it nothing!

Poland is the little brother in this relationship and no amount of delusional thoughts will change that

Talking about yourself?

America will follow the advice of Germany, France and the UK when it comes to these things, all of whom will be against NATO expansion to Poland.

America are making decisions basing it on their own estimates and policies and advice are just that an advice, only diplomacy stops Americans from telling those countries with the delusion of grandeur where to stick their advice.

They don't want to end it, they want to control it.

Who wants what is debatable. The fact is in a present form and with those judges TK is obsolete..

You're still making the elementary mistake of assuming that KOD = PO?

I know those are post-communist forces and obviously they are people and some people support them, but they are in minority.
Hell even not most of PO members bothered to the streets. That signifies that their support among the population is even weaker then I though, who would have thunk lol!

I don't 'side' with anyone,

Sure you do!

I only think that Poland is harming herself by being so obnoxious and prickly

The only people who are obnoxious are those who are getting hysterical after being voted out of their position of power and are snitching and lying against Poland to the foreign countries which should know better than stick their snout into internal Polish affairs.

The Slovaks are irritated

According to partisan media in fact they are not irritated.

the Germans think that the Poles are untrustworthy.

The Germans should grow up or change their confrontational policy.

II RP all over again,

Geez, get some education delph.
Ironside   
21 Dec 2015
History / Chance of Lwów once again became coming part of Poland [344]

Hmm, that would be a nonsense and even if for the sake of the debate we would assume for a movement it was true you are compering apples and oranges here. We both know that all you do is troll, lie and produce burps on the internet in order to be a center of attention.
Ironside   
21 Dec 2015
News / Demonstrations in Poland in defence of democracy. [2554]

what motive do I have?

Who cares? You are not Polish.

Goodbye, NATO base.

It is not for Germans to decide where NATO bases are being set. As for German I wouldn't bother by they attitude as they are acting against Polish interests and sucking up to Russia. They stand to lose much more if they continue their policy towards Poland, bloody krauts they cannot be trusted.

All PiS have to do is to leave the TK alone.

PiS needs to put dawn that institution for good or at lest have three judges including Rzeplinski to resign.

Problem is, every night brings new "actions", and with it, the protests grow.

Quite the opposite is going down and at the pick of hysteria they have brought to the street less people that they are members of PO alone.

Yes, the general observation is that Poland is shouting and screaming about wanting to be a regional king and demanding to be called so while actually doing everything against such a possibility.

Not surprising that you side with Germany against Poland. A subversive foreigner to the boot.
Ironside   
21 Dec 2015
News / Poland to end state funding for IVF treatment [102]

I was just trying to point out

I know what you are trying to do. I disagree, as I said because on a demographical level investments in the IVF make no visible impact on the population growth.

but better something than nothing

Sure, but you do realize you are talking communism and a nanny state? All you say would make sense provided that a state is a big- benevolent mother, hate to burst you bubble, it is not, if you go communism-wise-direction you get the police state, a totalitarian state.

I think the decision was made to withdraw treatment primarily because PiS were opposed to it in the first place.

What of it?
I mean they are a political party with their agenda and likes and dislikes, so you might be onto something. On the other hand introduction of funding of that treatment from the public money happened only because party in charge was for some reason in favor of it.

You understand that is not a hugely popular issue and only few people are paying attention to it.

Countries poorer than Poland have state funded IVF.

To enrich lobbyist and relevant companies most likely.

PiS have very strong links with the church.

Define - strong.
The Queen have been a head of the church and protector of the faith not so long ago. Would describe Britain as a religious state?

In Poland CC is a strong in that many people are supporting it and not only religious people, also Polish elite do recognize merits of the Church and it rightly so.

It is only natural that politicians in Poland see not to antagonize the Church. Also there is a certain constituency that expects a certain affirmative actions in return for their votes.

I wouldn't say thought that those links are strong or that PiS is doing the church biding.

It's not difficult for me to see the main reason funding was withdrawn

For political reasons as always for the same reasons it was introduced.
You might agree with the outcome of the decision or not but you ought to see the logic. You think it is a good thing, other people think that it is an immoral thing - who is right and who is wrong? Dilemma.

Who is going to decide? People who won democratic election - majority.

I just see it as being very unfair,

Let me put it to you - life is not fair.

with 100 families for the whole of Poland

you are a drama queen

as the money will be spent on vodka rather than the children.

So it goes right down your alley !
Ironside   
21 Dec 2015
News / Poland to end state funding for IVF treatment [102]

Woman is expected to stay at home, give birth, raise children, cook and clean.

The best example is B. Szydlo. lol!

There's another reason why 500 per child might not be a bright idea

Lobbyist for Banksters will lose they cut. terrible, not!

This is done in Finland, where teachers are prepared centrally in a top level university, then go and teach in some backwater towns

In Poland for the last 20 years the process was reversed i.e. education at the top level universities is on the same poor **** level as in backward towns.
Ironside   
20 Dec 2015
History / Chance of Lwów once again became coming part of Poland [344]

That PO bunch of the Merkle's lapdogs and the EU spoiled a great opportunity for Lwów to once again became part of Poland.

Serbian historical provinces in the region

What? Those would be rather Hungarian provinces.
Ironside   
20 Dec 2015
News / Germans: Geh raus of Poland's business! [61]

More than Ironside will, that's for sure.

Phew a dick measuring contest with you?Yuck I pass, you are giant on the internet anyway. lol!

You have no idea what you're talking about

You makes a hell of sense than you!

Chase away German companies, and Poland is finished.

Boo ho!

Nazi theories of "population relocation

How they are Nazi theories delph? Educate me.
Ironside   
20 Dec 2015
News / Poland to end state funding for IVF treatment [102]

I was under the impression that the 500 zł per child was being given as an incentive for couples to have more children, a way of addressing Poland's future population problem, as well as being a type of child benefit.

Legation hasn't been passed regarding the way and method those 500zl per child are going to be distributed. I absolutely have no desire to debate proposed legislation that has nothing to do with IVF treatment.

You seem to be implying that such a connection exist, I disagree.

The fact that there has been over 3000 live births and that 17,000 are currently undergoing treatment since state funded IVF was introduced only a couple of years ago, means that infertile women very much want to have children, and surely this should be something the government should be encouraging, given the fact that the birth rate is declining?

Numbers as well as practicalities and costs of such a treatment renders it totally obsolete and useless from the point of view of population growth.

So you too think that it isn't really just about the money then.

I think it was about the number of reasons as I already said including money, practicality of funding treatment to those families which can afford to rear children while at the same time a lot of families and hundred of thousands children are living in poverty.

I think that RCC view such a treatment as immoral might have been simply only an icing on a cake.
A fact in which jon and you seem to have taken extraordinary interest. That fact seems to agitate you something big perhaps because you attribute to it too much influence.

If and when the IVF will be banded in Poland then and only then you would be justified in putting this fact forth as an argument. However so far we are talking about funding IVF treatment from taxpayers money and in the Polish circumstances that can be seen as an extravagancy and luxury Poland can hardly afford.
Ironside   
20 Dec 2015
News / Demonstrations in Poland in defence of democracy. [2554]

It is a new development that clearly shows what is going on in Poland. Who is who that is.
True colors of so called defenders of their own privileges.

Geez he is like in your face what a snitch!
Ironside   
20 Dec 2015
News / Poland to end state funding for IVF treatment [102]

IVF is one sure fire way of increasing the low birth rate that Poland has, albeit an expensive one.

I honestly don't see how that would work, after all the low birth rate in Poland has little to do with infertility.

It's all very well promising 500 Zł per child as an incentive to have children, but the overall cost is going to be immense, and are people really that stupid that they would go for this, when any successive government could change that policy and take that away too?

Remain to be seen but that is not a subject of this thread.

I get what you're saying Ironside, but in comparison to what will be spent on the 500 Zł per child proposals, IVF isn't looking at being that expensive a solution to Poland's low birth rate is it?

That is an attempt to introduce in Poland kind of a child benefit. I really don't think that is the right way to go about helping people with children or induce they to have more children but that is not subject of this thread and I don't see how this has anything to do with the IVF treatment.

However IVF is not a solution at all as it isn't a part of the problem.

More than that though, it's just incredibly sad that a new government can make a snap decision to end the funding just like that

Well, they aren't going to stop it right away but gradually. I can see as their were against it and financing that program was highly controversial in Poland for a number of reason.

I can't imagine how devastating that must be for those currently undergoing treatment.

As I said it has been announced right way but factual termination of the program or more accurate - financing that treatment by the taxpayers money - will commence in about six months.

I don't want to really get into the religious side of it, but PiS were opposed to the funding being introduced to start with, so it seems a rather big coincidence that all of a sudden that funding is withdrawn.

No coincidence at all as I said that projected has been controversial from the start.

Well the only other option is private health care, and look at the mess they have in the US with that!!

They are in the mess now after implementation of the Obama Care Plan, it had been working before.
Ironside   
20 Dec 2015
News / Demonstrations in Poland in defence of democracy. [2554]

I'm reminded of the "Nie płacz Ewka" banner.

I have seen Lis almost crying and talking rubbish during that KOD herding in W-wa, he was pathetic - it gave me a good laugh!!!! A good thing that his backside will be separated from a sinecure, as a journalist he sucks a big time, maybe Harry will hire him?

only that efforts are being made to include more towns and cities.

People are thinking about Xmas, after that if that show and squealing continue they might go to the streets in numbers and kick few faces in, especially those prominent mugs.

Maybe will toss some rotten eggs and tomatoes for laugh to see them and their bodyguards jump!

I'm sure those clowns will call Secretary General of the Untied Nations for the world intervention on their behave because of that, and they will blame PiS! They belong in circus!
Ironside   
19 Dec 2015
News / Demonstrations in Poland in defence of democracy. [2554]

Is that really the best you can do?

I don't have to do anything else really, it is easy to check that your lied about circumstances and NATO offices.
It is also easy to confirm that you are making unfound allegation without any substantial or material proof about the bomb alert caller.
You have no credibility left, you are biased, partisan and committed.
What else is there to say? Don't lie? You are a grown man, that is your choice.

And meanwhile, the Polish pro-democracy rallies continue around the whole country.

Rather establishment cannot understand a concept of democratic election. If they cannot stand to lose if they would win in the next election it shouldn't surprise them much that people would not recognize their victory, their attitude renders elections null and introduces extreme measures as a prelude to the civil war. I think most of them think it unlikely but they are wrong on that count.

Traitors!

That's odd since most of their stated policies are proven failures elsewhere and/or non-existent.

What are you harping about? What are you actually doing that you are afraid of PiS?
Ironside   
19 Dec 2015
News / Demonstrations in Poland in defence of democracy. [2554]

PiS, Po3, are too busy entering NATO offices in the middle of the night

That is a lie.

organising spurious bomb-scares

That is a slander.

dignity and common sense being alien to them.

Talking about yourself?
Ironside   
19 Dec 2015
News / "We will not hesitate to shoot Kaczyński dead" - KOD Facebook page [164]

More dirty tricks - they really will stop at nothing and making bomb scares

Who? Do you have any evidence? Are you talking conspiracy theories by any chances? Do you remember what you used to say in such a case? Take down your tinfoil hat, in this case three-pronged hat.