Life / Can many young Poles speak German? [72]

not really Marku - Schlesisch is gone here - just some older folks who were born before the war can speak it - noone else

btw before the war German was very popular as a foreign language, just second to French I guess - back then it was the language of technology and science

there were also millions of Poles who would regularly travel to Germany to work in farming ('saksy') and/or forestry - many of these people must have learned some basic German - my grandpa learned German working as a forced labour on a farm just across the border not far from where he lived before the war - sure it was just rudimentary German but still (and he must have had a Prussian accent to his German (I haven't heard the Prussian accents of German))

News / Poland Parliament elections in October 2011 [944]


yeah, go and take him down - like opinion matters - you don't vote for him anyways so what is the use of this outrage


and what actually did it mean that the relations were frozen if they actually were frozen - and what does it mean when the relations are warm (presumably) during the PO government? - we're going on the collision course with Germany anyways (climate agreements that Tusk would like to renegotiate now or at least negotiate an interim )

Life / Can many young Poles speak German? [72]

where I live both English and German are taught in elementary school at the same time (I sometimes think if it is actually reasonable)
there was a time that German wasn't taught in schools at all in certain areas (including where I live) - all schools taught Russian - some additionally taught English some French - now here in Opole region German is almost universally taught in elementary schools (and I don't mean only areas with German minority) - but I think it can be different in other areas of Poland - I don't think German is taught universally in elementary schools - I think it often is only English

I have just found a report by the Education Ministry that states that currently 1/3 of Polish schools have German as a mandatory subject

Life / Can any young Poles can still speak Russian [25]


it's more difficult for a Polish person with no education in Russian I guess safely below 20 per cent (or even just 10 per cent) of spoken Russian would be understood - with just some basic training a Pole can gain some 10 per cent - other than that you need to learn a lot of words to understan Russian - still the grammar mostly poses very little problem

News / Poland Parliament elections in October 2011 [944]

I don;t mind

btw the google translation is definitely not correct on many points - I don't know the English legalese - I hardly know Polish legalese actually - and my English is only rudimentarily advanced ;) so I never bothered to translate it myself

btw2 PKW aka NEC told the Supreme Court more or less to buzz off AFAIK - of coursed they used their legal terms, articles and points

I'm off to bad now - good night everybody

News / Poland Parliament elections in October 2011 [944]


PKW rejected these supporters because the handwriting was 'difficult to read' (I have never signed such a candidate support list but I guess you need to sign it with your full name and with some people this can later prove difficult to read ) - it's the first time ever in Polish elections - the PKW could have easily checked with PESEL data and addresses if such people do exist and live in Poland - they didn't bother this time - again for the first time in POlish election after 1989 -

what is more PKW did it against the instructions of the Supreme Court from some time ago which said PESEL and address data should be checked first (very few outside of state institutions should have PESEL data - I am not even sure it is legal to collect such data for other purposes than employment or insurance)


lubczasopismo.salon24.pl/DonaldTusk/post/341031,wezwanie-pkw-do-przywrocenia-czynnosci-wyborczych

an excerpt of the article which includes an excerpt of the Supreme Court recent ruling:

Ruling on the merits, for the verification of signatures in support of NEC's citizens, the Supreme Court also noted the following:

"There is therefore need to enter personal data to the list so clearly that, without knowledge of the data resulting from the electoral register, you can clearly determine the name and address of the person giving support. Indeed, the situation is different than the reading of personal data solely on the basis of a text written by hand by the voter. It's not that the person retrieving handwritten entries on the list met solely on the basis of their name and address of the voter providing support, but here are that this person could see if there is no essential contradiction between the data resulting from the electoral register and the data indicated in the entry in the list of support. The primary purpose of verifying the data is in fact to determine whether the person who signed the list of support is in fact eligible voters whose Social Security number indicates it appears in the register of voters and thus reduce opportunities to commit fraud. To achieve this goal it is unnecessary to require full legibility of personal data submitted by the voter on the list of support, while it may limit the constitutional right of voting citizen who is not readable handwriting. Therefore, the Supreme Court considers that in assessing the accuracy of data entered on the list should be used in support of the opposite method, which is used by the NEC. "

News / Poland Parliament elections in October 2011 [944]


you don't want to know and you want to be a judge at the same time - well - of course you can - but it doesn't make you a just and wise judge - suit yourself

News / Poland Parliament elections in October 2011 [944]

no only me - PiS don't know a thing yet :P

News / Poland Parliament elections in October 2011 [944]

then read about Marek Król - and no it's not the full story AFAIK what Mr Jaworski says -

News / Poland Parliament elections in October 2011 [944]


yes I am - PKW has recently proven its malevolence - see casus KNP Kongres Nowej Prawicy and in the case of Marek Król and Joanna Kalata Senate candidates

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I think it's an attempt to muddle the picture so that serious electoral fraud can be implemented - there was an article on the software system that does the counting - it looks like it's the same small company every time though they have already caused major trouble to the election process.

this is just one possible way to manipulate the election - fraud can however as simple as that.

Study / AFRICAN STUDENTS INVASION in Krakow [197]


that makes me an utter racist too edit - because I wouldn't like my vicinity 'completely multicultural' - yes some spice is ok - but if you consume spice instead of rice well you're gonna end up sick

News / Do Poles take Kaczynski seriously!? [199]

there is something like sugar quotas in the EU - upon entering the EU Polish negotiators didn't manage to negotiate a quota that would actually cover the whole of internal Polish demand in the field of sugar - there is also milk quotas (and perhaps some other)

there is something like sugar quotas in the EU - upon entering the EU Polish negotiators didn't manage to negotiate a quota that would actually cover the whole of internal Polish demand in the field of sugar - there is also milk quotas (and perhaps some other)

Travel / NOT COMING TO KRAKOW- KEEP IT! [30]

Kraków has some magic no other city in Poland has - especially the old town and the Market Square - the other city in Poland that has a special feel for me is Gdynia - very different to Kraków but it has some kind of Magic too (not the whole city but the centre yes)

News / Do Poles take Kaczynski seriously!? [199]


sure it does - Kaczyński is the source of all the evil in POland - isn't he?

Travel / I'm visiting Wroclaw - can you recommend some where special the eat ? [5]

no problem, mate

Travel / DRIVING TO POLAND THIS THURSDAY ANY TIPS? [35]


this is your least worry - there is not so many expressways in the first place - especially along your route - if not sure just stay below the limit for the normal road

Travel / I'm visiting Wroclaw - can you recommend some where special the eat ? [5]


if you need a place for a small party you need to book in advance I believe - otherwise you take chances - having said that I am not up to date with decent Wrocław placess -

oh, well if you are 5-6 people maybe you can be alright without booking - take a look wroclaw-life.com/eat/restaurant_directory.php

- there were once a couple of themed bars in Wrocław - Irish pub on plac Solny, Highlander in Rynek and John Bull pub - I have no idea if they still exist or wether they have the British TV- wroclaw-life.

News / Do Poles take Kaczynski seriously!? [199]


- I don't quite get what you mean - do you mean we import most of our sugar from elsewhere?

Travel / DRIVING TO POLAND THIS THURSDAY ANY TIPS? [35]

in Germany there is no speed limit on the Autobahns unless there are those overhead sings lighted showing you the speed limit - in good conditions these are visible from about a mile

there is a general 140 kmph limit on Polish motorways and thus there are much fewer of those overhead electronic displays that can warn you about a local speed limit so you should be careful and watch the road and the signage - as for other roads and built up areas - there is signage present in Poland - you just need to watch it (also because there is a lot of roads with speed limits below the general limit for the type of the road (mainly because the roads are in bad condition) - standard speed limits are here:

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speed_limits_by_country

News / Poland Parliament elections in October 2011 [944]


ah, ok I now get it :) you got me angry for a moment

News / Poland Parliament elections in October 2011 [944]


hmm - have you heard that public help to even state companies is targeted by the EU - see the shipyards - are you serious thinking that KGHM or coal industry are somehow financed by the public - I am under impression it's exactly the other way round - PO government was very keen to pay itself a hefty dividend from KGHM for example


what do you mean actually - what is that Kaczyński offers that makes me vote for him according to you?


the underclass of the Polish society you are talking about don't even bother to vote (that's why we have like 50 per cent turnout) and it's already years since it started like this


workers are labouring simple as that - you are just another PiS hater simple as that - you go out of your way to bad mouth and discredit it - well it is your choice - what good can you achieve by that - I don't know? - beyond my grasp

News / Do Poles take Kaczynski seriously!? [199]


heh - what do you actually mean - cars are pretty difficult to digest - even if well aged


what other consumer goods from Germany have you seen in a shop lately

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you must be living in some different world, seems to me - parallel universes?


well. it may not happen very soon, unless he simply passes

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can you somehow back it up with some quote from Kaczyński :) -

as far as I can understand all Kaczyński asked Mr Sobieniowski was if he (Sobieniowski) works for a Polish or German medium - what you write is actually twisting the words of Kaczyński - nothing actually surprising from a notorious Kaczyński basher - btw the TVN material is equally if not more manipulative than your post

News / Do Poles take Kaczynski seriously!? [199]

ok I was wrong - neither Drzewiecki nor Chlebowski are PO candidates - and it looks they are never gonna be important figures in the party - but I think they still are members lodz.gazeta.pl/lodz/51,35136,9387357.html?i=1

News / Do Poles take Kaczynski seriously!? [199]


ok, you don't want an update - so here you are :P - kampanianazywo.pl/korespondenci/miroslaw-drzewiecki-jednak-zdob edzie-lodz/

News / Do Poles take Kaczynski seriously!? [199]


heh ;)


Mirosław Drzewiecki is still a member of PO - he just knows too much

se.pl/wydarzenia/opinie/nasz-pose-to-nie-przestepca_135333.html

seems like you don't follow politics that much pawian

EDIT: want an update on Drzewiecki, pawian hun :):):) ???

News / Do Poles take Kaczynski seriously!? [199]

when we win we're gonna take care of football hooligans then with your 'objektywne inaczej' media :p or rather with the media first :)

oh, Lord - why do we have such a gullible society who think Miro Drzewiecki and Zbycho Chlebowski are some free-lancers and not the core and the essence of the PO

News / Do Poles take Kaczynski seriously!? [199]


there are a couple of types of PO voters - one is for example inmates - nice company you're in pawian heh

the other type is the gullible - those who cannot connect what Tomasz Misiak has written into a bill with why was not PO fighting to keep polish shipyards from returning public help - these are the people who believed in the Qatar investor for a while

btw I think it is you who were not serious actually - just read through the comments on the web (it was especially noticeable some 1 or 2 years ago) - those who bad mouthed PiS and praised PO actually almost never knew a thing about what was really going on in the country - young and gullible - young and elevated ('młodzi wykształceni z dużych miast') - now they often can't find a job heh