UK, Ireland / Poland continues to milk Ireland dry. [129]

RevokeNice

Can I just ask you what, if anything, you are actually doing to get your views known by someone that can actually instigate change ?

Posting on here will not get you far. Some will agree with you and some won't, but regardless of however many agree, nothing will change.

Have you ever written to any of your elected representatives ? ok, it probably won't make a lot of difference, but you should still make the effort.

I've read a fair few of your posts now and, for the most part, I agree with what you're saying and much of what you said could have been written by me about immigration into Britain.

The lack of a managed immigration policy (both EU and non-EU and I think that they should both be vastly improved and both have some very stringent rules) is taking the UK to the brink.

Immigration will be the elephant in the room at the next election.

UK, Ireland / What do you hate about England and English people? [142]

[quote=Seanus]
My Scottish friends don't know that as I don't really talk about the English to them.

I think it is true that many brown-black people ruined parts of Birmingham. I was told this by a brown dude from there. They drafted in guns and made the work of the police harder. He is based in OZ now and never wants to go back there.[quote=Seanus]

I agree with what you say about Birmingham and "white flight" is certainly something you could say is evident there. Although I wouldn't say that people specifically moved so that they didn't live next door to someone that wasn't British, I just think that they felt too overwhelmed and a little pushed to one side - ring any bells, sense of déjà vu ?

Personally, I think any area of the country that is totally one thing or the other isn't ideal.

While ARSE may not be a jailbird or in the KKK, someone saying that they "hate" someone purely based on their ethnic background is just ignorant. People like ARSE are part of the problem, not the solution.

Wake up and get with the programme, ARSE, the 1950s ended years ago.

UK, Ireland / What do you hate about England and English people? [142]


That's a very nasty and ignorant thing to say.

How can you hate people you've never met ?

You've not been around in a while, let out of prison I take it ?

UK, Ireland / POLISH MAN 25 MURDERED IN LEEDS UK [19]


I agree, it's an awful thing to have happened, but often cheap places to live are cheap for a reason.

Sadly we've long since lost the time when regular patrol of policeman were seen and there seems little protection for decent citizens these days. Wer'e all pretty much on our own. Decent folk need to stick together.

Even if the evil little sh!t that did this gets caught, what kind of justice will the victim's family see ?

It's not as though murderers get sent down for any decent length of time anymore.

UK, Ireland / English teenager refused service at Polish shop [87]


I wouldn't say he is a racist and I doubt he is a BNP supporter. The BNP probably wouldn't let him in due to his skin colour. He would be one of the first people the BNP would want kicked out of the country if they ever got any kind of power.

Mr Kumarasiri is just trying to make the point that there are too many people in the UK that don't speak enough English to even buy a stamp. He made the effort to learn the language when he came to live here. He just thinks everyone else should too.

Did you read what he said ?

He had said: "I am part of a service but how can I serve them if I don't understand what they are asking for?

"When I came to England I obeyed the British way of life, I got into the British way of life.

"That is what I ask everyone else to do - respect the country where you are working and living."

Banning people from his Post Office may seem a little severe, but I agree with his motives for doing so.

As usual though, people just want to jump on him and call him names.

News / "Poles want cut on foreign workers" - (in Poland obviously) [47]


Exactly, this is the whole point. It isn't about trying to "stop" people from living and working where they choose, but it shouldn't be at the expense of those who are nationals of that country.

If you're born and brought up somewhere and need a certain level of income in order to survive (not live the high-life, just be able to manage) it is unfair for foreign labour to pitch-up and live 10 to a room and work for next to nothing, simply because that money will go a lot further when they send it home.

The country may not owe you a living, but it should at least offer you a fighting chance of a decent one if that is where you come from and call home.

UK, Ireland / Poles do a U turn: England to Poland and then back to England again. [23]

Even less reason then to live in a tent and wait for the soup-kitchen to open.

Borrow the money for the ticket from a really good friend and go ! Pay them back when the good times return.

Some people seem to enjoy being miserable.

UK, Ireland / Poles do a U turn: England to Poland and then back to England again. [23]


I'm not sure what to make of this. Surely the whole point of making a decision is having the resolve to stick to it.


"Charlotte McHugh of the charity said some of their passports had expired, but it cost a lot to travel to London to replace them so they were trapped."

We all know when our passports are due to expire, so if things are looking bleak a few months or so before they run out, then it's time to act. Maybe I'm being cynical, but isn't it a tad convenient to be able to say "I can't go home now as my passport as expired!" ?

People should take some personal responsbility and make sure that they have some emergency money for such things or return home before it runs out.

Love / English girl. Do Polish men afraid to show their feelings or they are just not comfortable in UK? [84]


How long does he plan to stay in the UK ? He may not want to get too fond of you if his longterm plans are to go back home.


You need to start following him;-)

Love / English girl. Do Polish men afraid to show their feelings or they are just not comfortable in UK? [84]


He may just prefer to stay in or he could be broke, but to never want to go out with you does seem a little odd. I would expect someone, even if it was just once a month on pay-day, to take his girlfriend out somewhere.


He's either married or got another girlfriend that doesn't know about you either.

If his friends are all Polish that speak little or no English, then he should just say so.

UK, Ireland / Britain... What the Poles did for us. [444]


What does Juerk make of the "British jobs for British workers" situation in Lincolnshire ?

news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7859968.stm

What does Jurek expect to be able to do with, as you put it, "rubbish" English skills ?

UK, Ireland / Britain... What the Poles did for us. [444]


Cr*p !

Have you ever met a muslim and had a proper conversation with one ?

And not the ones that get interviewed on the BBC, while struggling to find the words "Yes I condemn all terrorists!", I mean the ones that are just living their lives and getting up and going to work and paying bills etc just like any other normal person.

I've worked with several down the years and I've yet to encounter one without many values that could be seen as British. They're mainly very decent and hard-working and are as fed up with being stereotyped as the Scottish are for being seen as tight-fisted, violent, bigoted alcoholics !

UK, Ireland / Britain... What the Poles did for us. [444]


If you're sick of being stereotyped when it comes to the swan eating, benefit scrounging business, then you shouldn't stereotype the British in return.

I've worked for the minimum wage in the pretty recent past, and I'm in my 30s and not my teens, so you can spare me the "British are lazy" lecture thanks very much.

I'm certainly not afraid of hard work.


I'm not keen on it either, but the sad fact of the matter is that we have unsustainable levels of immigration, however, the subject is seen as too hard by the Government to even discuss, let alone try and solve.

We've been screwed over by the Government and no one is really "winning", not the British, the Polish or anyone.........apart from those with no social conscience who seem to fall with their backsides in the butter regardless of the situation.

UK, Ireland / Britain... What the Poles did for us. [444]


Pitchfork anyone ?

I hear what you're saying, but calling London "Londonistan" isn't going to help. I live in Hove on the south coast, shall I spray-paint "Hoveska" across one of the signs ?

We have the current immigration nightmare, because we have elected Governments without being bothered enough about what they might actually do when they get into power. We can moan in pubs and on chat forums, but nothing will change until we demand more from our politicians.

UK, Ireland / Britain... What the Poles did for us. [444]


What you say rings true with how many people, including myself, are starting to feel these days, but it's a case of what to do about it ?

There is no logic to the way anything is being run these days. Common sense has been thrown well and truly out of the window.

UK, Ireland / Britain... What the Poles did for us. [444]

You make some very well observed and some very good points, Byronic.

You're right that things have changed a great deal since 1990, however, I think the rot was setting in long before that. I doubt that the gravy-train that is the British "system" will ever run dry or be put on the right track.

It would take a political party with a tough and radical agenda, that isn't afraid of offending a few people, to be in power for a good while before there was even a chance of putting things right. Such a party simply doesn't exist and the ones currently available don't have the balls.

UK, Ireland / What do you hate about England and English people? [142]

Exactly, "how are you?" is a statement, rather than a question with the expected answer being, "fine thanks and how are you?".

Again that's a statement rather than a question and not an invitation to list all your woes and general problems.

Similarly, we'll all soon be asking how one Christmas was, but again we won't be expect a great long answer, unless we know you well enough to be interested.

UK, Ireland / What do you hate about England and English people? [142]


Go private.

Get a copy of the Highway Code and take some driving lessons.


That make sense to us.


In the UK, there are two types of people. British people and foreigners, unless you work in a callcentre and have a foreign accent of some sort, in which case you're Indian.


If you mean literally, then I should hope not.


I think your lagging needs checking.

Enjoy your stay :-)

UK, Ireland / Britain... What the Poles did for us. [444]

Have you formed a plan then ?

UK, Ireland / Britain... What the Poles did for us. [444]

Having read the article mentioned and read similar topics on here and elsewhere, I can't help but feel that will a little more planning on behalf of the Polish themselves and, dare I say some control on the numbers by the British Government, maybe less would have come, but more of those would have stayed.

The "come one, come all" approach was never going to work. Will the British Government change their immigration policies as a result ? Unlikely.

However, I hope those Polish who return to Poland do so a bit richer and a lot wiser.

UK, Ireland / A collection of noimmigration's threads or "STAY AWAY from BRITAIN" [978]


What does this guy have to do to get banned ?

What is the point of having a moderator if they allow stuff like this to remain ?

If it had been Polish migrants that had died, would that have meant a line had been crossed ? Africans not count ?

UK, Ireland / Time to move on... I'm coming back to Poland after 4 years in the UK [29]


You say in your video that you're not coming here to work, so what are you coming here for ? To study ?

Which part of the UK are you heading for ?

UK, Ireland / A collection of noimmigration's threads or "STAY AWAY from BRITAIN" [978]

As I've said before, his various points do have a certain amount of substance at times, however, he is spitting out so much vile poison, that anything sensible he is trying to say gets lost.

My main issue with his "defending the British working classes" angle was that he was using that as a means of justifying the violence used in that video.

I agree that mass immigration drives down wages to the detriment of the current population, but you can never excuse kicking seven kinds of sh1t out of someone to prove a point - this noimmgration fella seems to want to do this.

UK, Ireland / A collection of noimmigration's threads or "STAY AWAY from BRITAIN" [978]


If you really believe that, then you've got serious problems.

Out of control yobs like that defend nothing other than what they see as their right to cause trouble.

UK, Ireland / A collection of noimmigration's threads or "STAY AWAY from BRITAIN" [978]


ENJOY ? What are you ? Simple ?

For a start unless you were there, you've got no idea as to the nationality of any of them.

Secondly, those guys sitting there did nothing to deserve being set upon like that. They were outnumbered, so it wasn't even a fair fight.

What's even worse is that the slogan of the website is "Where you provide the entertainment!"

Sickening !


Concerned citizens don't take pleasure in seeing people being beaten up. I'm concerned about mass/uncontrolled immigration, but watching that gave me no pleasure at all. It made me angry that a) it happened in the first place and b) there is a website showing it for the purposes of enternainment.

What a f8cked up situation !

I've emailed the website saying that I think this video is not in the least entertaining and should be removed.

I've also emailed Channel 4 to point out that maybe they should be more careful where they advertise "Deal Or No Deal".

UK, Ireland / A collection of noimmigration's threads or "STAY AWAY from BRITAIN" [978]


That maybe so, but that is even more reason to challenge their views and try and get a handle on why they think the way they do.

These people do have a right to their opinions, however uncomfortable they might be and there is a tide of feeling against mass/uncontrolled immigration. It isn't just blokes in pubs sounding off. I work with and know a lot of people, many from well educated backgrouds and on good salaries, who have views along similars lines to people like "noimmigration". It's just that they phrase things better and don't have such a tunnel-vision approach to the subject.

As a result, they get listened to more.

UK, Ireland / A collection of noimmigration's threads or "STAY AWAY from BRITAIN" [978]

People like noimmigration do need to be challenged, even if it does feel like it's banging a head against a brick wall.

If he thought his arguments through more, didn't phrase them so badly or make so many grammar and spelling mistakes, he might even get taken seriously.

If you went into pretty much any local pub in Britain today, you will encounter lots of "noimmigrations". Just because he is the minority on here, doesn't mean there aren't loads like him.

Many people do think their area has changed for the worse as a result of immigration, but a badly worded topic on a web-forum isn't the best way to discuss it rationally.

UK, Ireland / A collection of noimmigration's threads or "STAY AWAY from BRITAIN" [978]

In the context you're using it, the word "neighbourhood" is one word and not two.

Your views are one thing and everyone is entitled to an opinion, but your appalling grasp of the basics of grammar just beggar belief.

You seem keen to stress your point of view that certain races are inferior to the British, however, you're clearly thick, so why should we listen to you ?

I'm British and people like you symbolise everything that is wrong with this country.

UK, Ireland / A collection of noimmigration's threads or "STAY AWAY from BRITAIN" [978]


The moderators are expecting you to come out with the same, tired old arguments and that you have nothing new to say and that you're views are blinkered by general nastiness.

Therefore they may aswell lump all your posts together.

It's called being "pigeon-holed", which is exactly what you do to the Polish.