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Joined: 15 Aug 2007 / Female ♀ 		Last Post: 27 Jan 2015
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Magdalena   
17 Jun 2013
Life / Etiquette in a Store and Market Queues in Poland [146]

If you're curious, ask away. I'll do my best to answer.

If you don't know what I'm talking about then I'll give you an example and you can educate all the foreigners on how they're interpreting things incorrectly..

I'd be happy to.

Feathers were already getting ruffled all around before I made my appearance ;-)
Magdalena   
17 Jun 2013
Life / Etiquette in a Store and Market Queues in Poland [146]

Poles, or at least a good many of them, seem to genuinely thrive on creating as much disorder and disarray as possible within any and all situations.

If Poles won't or can't, perhaps we outsiders can provide a valuable service to society by standing our ground in such cases mentioned in this thread.

really unfit people for a healthy society imo.

From a societal and psychological perspective, I find the phenomenon fascinating from a perspective of "How-much-dysfunction can a society tolerate?"

I find these and similar comments patronising, to say the least.

Has it ever occurred to you that it is you who are the outsiders and maybe don't get to see the full picture, don't know the unspoken rules of conduct? A little humility would go a long way. There are genuinely rude people everywhere. But thinking you know it all and are the best judges of a different society and its norms - that's not nice at all. You chose to live in Poland, deal with it. That's exactly what I hear if I say anything remotely negative about the UK, BTW.
Magdalena   
17 Jun 2013
Life / Etiquette in a Store and Market Queues in Poland [146]

I'm not sensitive about it - I'm bored and irritated. It's not over a few words either - you're well into your second page of what is basically whining. I've lived in London for approx. 5 years so I think I can safely say that Polish street and shop behaviour is neither better nor worse than the world average (London being so cosmopolitan, you see). I've been bumped, squished in buses, jumped ahead of in queues just as much in Poland as abroad - that is to say, not that much, definitely not often enough to spend my days discussing it on internet forums.
Magdalena   
10 Jun 2013
Love / ARE POLISH GIRLS GOLD-DIGGERS? [359]

Even when they try to be nice they are still pigs, the song alleges.

AFAIK the song was performed by men. So keep your hat on! ;-)
Magdalena   
8 Jun 2013
Love / Fresh, wholesome country lass in Poland - getting married and going back to the US [167]

Very simple and basic human need to take a special place in a woman heart.

If you meet a woman and she's not a virgin, but she's really great and she truly loves you, and you love her, that is not enough? Oh wait, you probably couldn't bring yourself to love someone who has been "used".

and some empathy. No that impossible to come by.

I haven't sensed the slightest empathy from you so far. You are full of preconceived notions and unyielding opinions. At least that's how you come across.
Magdalena   
8 Jun 2013
Love / Fresh, wholesome country lass in Poland - getting married and going back to the US [167]

So you have to be something to talk about it?

Well, it sure helps. You don't need to be that someone as long as you understand that you will never truly know what they know and feel. You can become a miner, the president of Poland, or an astronaut, but you will never become a woman, so a little less self-assurance on this particular subject would be in order.

Are you virgin then?

I was born one, and so were you. We have equal footing here ;-)

I can thing about one reason a man want to take special place in a woman life and be her first.

Can you enlighten us? Because all the reasons that come to my mind are rather small-minded and unpleasant.
Magdalena   
8 Jun 2013
Love / Fresh, wholesome country lass in Poland - getting married and going back to the US [167]

I'm not suggesting that I believe in casual sex or promiscuity - I think sex should be for people in established relationships who love one another. But think this standard should be applied equally to men and women, and I think it's crazy that a man should expect physical virginity from an adult woman. It could easily lead to unhappiness for both of them.

Exactly. 100 % this.
Magdalena   
8 Jun 2013
Love / Fresh, wholesome country lass in Poland - getting married and going back to the US [167]

Why you are obsessed with virginity.

I'm not, but the subject at the time WAS virginity.

I know but it may work for some women. For majority it doesn't work that well, does it?

Are you a woman to know all about that?

Somebody has been burnt, sorry.

???

There is not clear cut, I think that being proud of promiscuity and trying to emulate some men is harmful for women in general -thats all.

There is a vast difference between being a normal, red-blooded female, and being a promiscuous slut. I don't think you are capable of seeing that difference. The loss is yours.

You didn't make yourself clear and I do not posses ability to read your mind.

It's quite easy to ask questions if in doubt - I do that quite often.
Magdalena   
8 Jun 2013
Love / Fresh, wholesome country lass in Poland - getting married and going back to the US [167]

I was implying that it do not affect men that much one way or the other.

And pray why not? And why would loss of virginity affect women so much?

I would say that it would affect a man to a lesser degree than it would affect a woman.

Again, why exactly? Women use men sexually too, you know. Do you think men are too dense to realise that they are basically somebody's throwaway toy? A dildo on legs, to put it bluntly?

Or do you really live in a world were women have no sexuality to speak of and their only role is to lie back and think of England?

Unintelligent?

I was trying to be kind.
To my question whether you think promiscuous men never or rarely become seedy sleazebags (which to me is also a description of their mental makeup), you answered that men are not affected mentally. Your answer shows you did not even try to understand my question.
Magdalena   
7 Jun 2013
Love / Fresh, wholesome country lass in Poland - getting married and going back to the US [167]

Magdalena:
Great answer. :-/

better than being a stud who is ******* everything that moves and do not run fast enough.

I don't think you remember what your answer originally referred to. I asked whether the requirement of virginity at marriage also applies to men, and you said:

"Magdalena:
And does that apply to men as well? If not - then why not?

because men are better than that."

Which seemed to hint that men are "better"(?) than women in the sense that they do not need to keep their virginity, but I was not sure, so I asked.

Magdalena:
don't even know what to answer to that.

Never though about that?

No, I was simply stumped by your frankly unintelligent answer.

Are claiming that having over hundred different partners do not affect a woman mentally?

I never said that; you, on the other hand, seem to claim that having over a hundred different partners would NOT affect a man mentally. In my opinion, having that many partners would affect anybody, male or female, mentally - on the other hand, most people never have that many partners, nor do they want to. Prn stars and prostitutes excepted, of course - to them, it's all simply a job.
Magdalena   
7 Jun 2013
Love / Fresh, wholesome country lass in Poland - getting married and going back to the US [167]

because men are better than that.

Better than what?

The can have a relationship with hundreds of women in a row and would be less affected that a woman after ten relationships.

Like they catch fewer STIs and never become seedy sleazebags, right? Are you effing kidding me? I sincerely hope you are!
Magdalena   
6 Jun 2013
Love / Fresh, wholesome country lass in Poland - getting married and going back to the US [167]

an unspoilt, God-fearing, hard-working young woman with a pro-family orientation (which does not mean she has no education or professional career) or a party girl 'po przejściach'*?

Is there really nothing in between? There are only either "unspoilt" and "God-fearing" maidens or drunken, middle-aged, unmarried / divorced witches saddled with a bunch of kids? That is simply pathetic.

I also really dislike the way you talk about "unspoilt" young women, as if having normal life experiences made a woman dirty. Why would a man over fifty want to marry a young woman? Obviously to take advantage of her inexperience, and probably to try and model her into his "ideal" wife. Good luck with that. It's frankly disgusting.
Magdalena   
31 May 2013
News / Shops in Poland to be closed on Sunday? [208]

If you have lived in India, then you must have turned a blind eye to the persecution of Christians.

I lived in India a long time ago, so no, I didn't have to turn a blind eye to anything. Your info comes from 2012, and I know that radical Hinduism has become more popular recently. Also, I did not say there was no ugliness in that culture, I said the ugliness there was basically no different to ugliness in our own culture - as if being Christian automatically meant you would never kill or persecute anybody of another faith. If radical Catholicism seriously catches on in Poland (and it still hasn't, thankfully), you might witness very unpleasant incidents re. religious minorities or atheists. That's religious ideology for you. That's why I don't buy it.
Magdalena   
31 May 2013
News / Shops in Poland to be closed on Sunday? [208]

Imagine how ugly things are outside of a safe, christian culture zone.

As I said, I have lived in India, well outside the Christian culture zone, and I have seen no ugliness beyond what I can also see within that zone. I repeat once again that humans have a deep need for spirituality and spontaneously seek ways to approach god, or enlightenment, or higher truth, or whatever you wish to call it, and I am no different. The only people I see who do not pursue this goal at all are people who are either brainwashed by one of the ruling ideologies, or are born psychopaths / sociopaths (this is a disorder that no religion or faith can cure). In its current incarnation, Christianity has largely become no more than an ideology, with the faithful expected to blindly follow certain precepts; try asking your local parish priest one or two more difficult theological questions, and you will get a dismissive answer, if any! I would tend to agree that any faith practiced by a person with a probing, intelligent mind might bring them closer to ultimate truth or god or any other mystical experience you may wish to name; but thoughtless repetition of ritual paired with an inflexible attitude to human weaknesses and quirks only serves to create robotic worshippers of graven images or (as in Islam) of words in a book. What I have said about Christianity I could repeat about any of the major world religions. As mass movements, they are no more than very powerful ideologies, though you might find spiritual truth in most of them. But they are all human approximations of something which is way above any religion. I have no idea whether a higher truth or a mystical union with the universe (or whatever) actually exist or are possible.

I believe much of your hatred for religion stems from your perception of what those religious institutions have become, not what they were originally.

Now where did I say that I hate religion? I am actually quite interested in religions from a philosophical and psychological point of view, and I find most of them absolutely fascinating. I do see their spiritual potential for the right person; but I also see how they dull the inner perception of most people, who are content to swallow whatever is presented to them without a single thought of their own. In a typical crowded Sunday church, how many people do you think actually have any sort of a religious experience? Most of them are bored stiff and are just waiting for the whole thing to be over so they can go home for Sunday dinner. But they keep coming because that's the done thing. What would the priest say? What would the neighbours say? Religion gives them form without substance.
Magdalena   
31 May 2013
News / Shops in Poland to be closed on Sunday? [208]

if you have your own idea of what is good and what is evil, then why can't I have my own as well?

I would say most people's gut feelings about good and evil are similar. It's the various ideologies and religions you have to be wary of.
Magdalena   
30 May 2013
News / Shops in Poland to be closed on Sunday? [208]

Morality is ultimately relative and it tends to differ from culture to culture.

The concepts of good and evil create morality, not the other way around. Neither morality nor virtue are universal across cultures. But basic gut feelings about doing good and doing evil would be rather similar.

You speak of modern ideologies. To me, they are semi-religious, artificial constructs to be avoided at all costs.

but I came to conclusion that any faith is better then atheism.

So atheism is not a religion after all?
Magdalena   
30 May 2013
News / Shops in Poland to be closed on Sunday? [208]

it is the inherent indifference to evil

Not believing in a god does not mean being indifferent to evil. Good and evil are real, whatever names you call them or whatever entities you choose to associate them with (god, satan) or not.

So your argument is invalid.
I have nothing against the Catholic or Christian tradition. I have lived in India surrounded by Hinduists and Buddhists and again, felt quite at home. I do not divide people into the faithful and the faithless.
Magdalena   
30 May 2013
News / Shops in Poland to be closed on Sunday? [208]

How do I know? simple logic.

So it's logic now? Not trust or intuition or faith? Why?

Without God in your life, there is nothing else to do.

Are you really sure that you have the right to speak for other people?
While I understand that this is how YOU feel, I am not in the slightest convinced that you are in possession of absolute truth.
Magdalena   
29 May 2013
News / Shops in Poland to be closed on Sunday? [208]

Science isn't knowledge. Technology isn't knowledge. Medicine isn't knowledge.

Great. No need to discuss anything further then. Just sit back and enjoy your ride. BTW - I strongly disagree with you.

For a modern person, to live means to take advantage of what the physical world has to offer, meaning that existence is a simple pursuit of egotistic and hedonistic impulses.

How can you be so sure? Have you talked to every single person alive today? Aren't you being a tad judgmental and prejudiced? I personally know a lot of people, myself included, who do not simply pursue their egotistic impulses, even though they are not "religious".

An ancient person only experienced spiritual things, whether due to his closeness to virgin nature or his exposure to a tradition that had a direct connection with the eternal.

Another sweeping generalisation. Do you think people several thousand years ago did not want to have lots of sex, to be rich, to rule and dominate others? You must be dreaming. As to virgin nature, you could read up on how our early ancestors changed the landscapes we live in today and think of as "natural" ;-)
Magdalena   
29 May 2013
News / Shops in Poland to be closed on Sunday? [208]

Of course atheism is a religion. It's a belief in a material universe, where only what is measurable by our senses exists.

So do you mean to say that belief = religion? This means any superstition or personal opinion is also automatically a religion - where would you stop?

Also: I am an atheist. I do not include a god or gods in my life. This does not in any way mean that I believe "in a material universe, where only what is measurable by our senses exists". Scientists (at least the really good ones) are fully aware of the limited nature of their knowledge. Nevertheless, some (or many) laws of nature can be observed, measured, compared. They do objectively exist, at least on the level that is visible to us. We could talk all day about the multiverse theory or the string theory etc. A lot remains undiscovered, and there is a huge area open for speculation, including mystical speculation, nevertheless, god(s) are created by people, not the other way round. I do not believe in a god any more than I believe in a strictly material universe. I feel no need to worship at any shrine. That is atheism.

I asked about America because from what I see Americans often tend to think that if you are an atheist it means you go to an atheist church where you recite the anti-Creed and share your non-belief with other unbelievers, a typical fallacy of those who know nothing about religion and nothing about science ;-)
Magdalena   
29 May 2013
News / Shops in Poland to be closed on Sunday? [208]

Really? Since when has atheism been a religion? I must have missed the memo. FYI, atheism is also not a synonym for secularism. A secular state (like Poland) guarantees freedom of religion and belief (so any religion or lack thereof is OK). An atheist state (like communist Korea maybe?) would force people to abandon any religious belief they might have. I feel embarrassed to have to explain such obvious things to an adult.

So yes, my original remark still stands. "Atheist theocracy" is a contradiction in terms. And atheism is NOT a religion. I am about to use a stereotype here, but are you American or currently living in the States?