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hague1cmaeron   
19 Apr 2012
News / Presidential elections and debates 2015 Poland [472]

I don't know and I would like to find out

Its nice to have a measure of the man that one is debating with. Enough said, I am dealing with an irrational conspiracy theorist, I believe there is no need for this debate to go any further.
hague1cmaeron   
18 Apr 2012
News / Presidential elections and debates 2015 Poland [472]

Well some lame excuses and then one post with nothing but personal abuse!
Seems to me that you have no arguments except for repeating the line of PO propaganda and lies.

Anybody who is an impartial observer can clearly see that I refuted every one of your claims, so much so that it seems you pretty much gave up on the argument.

Ah really ? Russian are to be trusted just because you say so and only with the crash investigation thingy?Other than that you cannot trust them at all.

You are making no sense, the above is gibberish. Why are you so coy? Why not be open instead masking yourself in a lie, do you believe that smolensk was an accident or do you agree with your leader that it was an assassination?The Miller report made it quite clear that it was an accident, so what is it an accident or an assassination?

BS! He said what he said reinventing his words - nice!He was boasting that his government is so good at diplomacy and he said what he said.

It's you who are reinventing his words, you are making **** up just because you hate him. Besides Polish/Russian relations are not dependent on Poland, they are dependent on Russia. Obviously PIS must think that Russia is fantastic since they trust Russia more than the Polish government.

A recent headline: "PiS to pożyteczni idioci Moskwy" I couldn't have put it better myself even if i tried.

You know whatever else, I always considered you to be a patriot, I seriously doubt if you really are anymore.

And some news related to PIS: Former PiS minister sentenced to 3.5 years in prison for corruption.

Who would vote for these cretins?
hague1cmaeron   
17 Apr 2012
News / Presidential elections and debates 2015 Poland [472]

Are they ? So Tusk's government has been lying all the time about great relation with Russia ?

Didn't you mother teach you that lying is a sin? Tusk said no such thing, he only said that Polish/Russian relations have been the best they had been for a very long time-big difference. It also happens to be true.

Would you care to explain when in that one thing only they are to be trusted?

More than Happy to. Because Poland's miller report is largely in agreement.

Polish side took no part in the investigation, surrendering all investigations rights on Russia

That is yet another untruth. You know that Polish investigators were involved in the investigation, that why they were able to come up with the Miller Report.

the black box and the plane wreck.

They have the transcripts, and are on record saying that the black boxes are not necessary to the investigation.

How can such liars like Tusk and PO could have ever been taken seriously beats me!

You are the one who is lying constantly, and putting words in Tusk's mouth he never said. Though I am not surprised, you have learnt from your idol and savior

You mean to say that Tusk's government approach to Russia is based on servility and fear. I wonder what you and your boss are hiding. :D

I am sorry that your brain is incapable of processing the idea of diplomacy.

You do realize that you can be right many times and all it takes is for me be right once.

With a rational person that might be the case, but I am debating with an irrational person who perfectly fits the mould of a Kaczynski supporter-in other words never admits to the truth and lies shamelessly.
hague1cmaeron   
17 Apr 2012
News / Presidential elections and debates 2015 Poland [472]

Not well enough for you PIS friends.

Expect for your boss line of propaganda, you must be aware that what you are writing here is not only logical but also factual fallacy !

Just because you say so doesn't make it fact. The fact that you do not care to explain why indicates to me that deep down you know you can't refute this claim, because despite the the number of past centuries the comparison is very apt.

In what way they impede and hamper Poland in this case ? Tusk's government is praising their Russian counterpart and is supporting the Russian Commission explanations as to causes of the crash ? We can even say - Tusk and PO authorized that report.
Suddenly there are problems and Russian are bad and impeding ?

In every way they can. Poland's approach to Russia is based on reality and practicality. Because the majority of the conclusions made by the Russian report are correct, especially in relation to the fact that the crash was an accident and not an assassination-as the pathological liar Kaczynksi claims.

We are talking here about Parliamentary resolutions! ?I see it as a pressure put on Russia!

Its no such thing, it is an open invitation to Russia to meddle in Polish politics. If passed it would have opened the road for Russia to play the game of divide and conquer. Putting it generously it can be described as an act of gross stupidity by a party which should be never allowed to have its hands on the leavers of government again, and putting it at its worst it can be described as an act bordering on treason.

How can a party that trusts the Russian Duma more than the Polish Sejm ever be taken seriously again?

lol Your boss and PO are doomed, you cannot make that much of the blunder and expect naught of it!

You said that last time and you were proved wrong and I was proved right.
hague1cmaeron   
16 Apr 2012
News / Presidential elections and debates 2015 Poland [472]

They wanted only appeal to the Russian Parliament to influence their government to give back to Poland the black box and wreckage of the plane.Which that should do in the first place.

This response illustrates perfectly your dilettante approach to politics. Firstly by saying that "They wanted only appeal to the Russian Parliament to influence their government" you are making the assumption, that the Russian powers that be are willing to cooperate with the Polish government, which is a false assumption. The Russians do not want to cooperate in this matter however, they are only too willing to meddle in Polish affairs and impede and hamper Poland. So your assumption at best, can be described as naive, and at worst as stupidity on stilts squared by infinity.

So given that the Russians have no intention of cooperating with the Polish government, Kaczynski's appeal to as you yourself put it "influence" the Polish government, is a an appeal to the Russians to undermine Polish sovereignty-ala the Targowica Confederation which called on the Russians to help restore Poland's Golden Freedom.

And just because Tusk can't get the Russians to cooperate, what makes you think that PIS would be anymore successful? Do you honestly believe that Fotyga would have more of a chance than Sikorski- again your total ineptitude for any sort of political intuition is plain for all to see. Just as you got the outcome of the previous election completely wrong, you have got this wrong as well.
hague1cmaeron   
15 Apr 2012
News / Presidential elections and debates 2015 Poland [472]

I think that it is quite natural, actually most people find the US system a bit arcane (investing so much power in a single person-it's almost quasi monarchical). In most European countries apart from France, power is wielded by the party.

It's also true under the Westminster System-in which people vote for the party, the party elects its leader, and the queen calls on the leader of the majority party to form government.

Members of Parliament (the Sejm), are called Pos£owie. And members of the senate are called Senators (Senatorowie).
hague1cmaeron   
15 Apr 2012
News / Presidential elections and debates 2015 Poland [472]

Whose looks do you prefer?

I think that Komorowski looks the part, he could loose a bit of weight though.

kaczynski looks the least presidential out of the lot. Short of stature, lets face it quite ugly in appearance: Round head
Beady eyes
no chin, or a distinct lack of a chin-quite literally a chinless wonder
weak jaw line
I think the best way to describe him metaphorically, would be to say that his ancestors spent their lifetime digging up potatoes, and have consequently acquired the appearance of a potato and passed it on to Kaczynski.

As for Ziobro, he seems to have a very immature appearance, that of a school boy-and not in a nice way.
He has a weak chin, and a very strong jaw line-ape like.
hague1cmaeron   
14 Apr 2012
News / Presidential elections and debates 2015 Poland [472]

Parliamentary resolution directed at Parliament of the foreign country are not unheard of!
Asking for the Russian Parliamentary intervention is not a treason, its politic.

This is not just simply asking, this is asking whilst at the same time advising the Russians that Poland is incapable of investigating the resolution itself.

So what makes them think that Russia will do a better job? Why should the Russians intervene in internal Polish affairs?
There is plenty of precedent for such treasonous behavior in Poland's past.

Is Kaczynski such a stupid imbecile that he actually thinks that the Russians will do a better job of investigating the crash? Once again PIS will do anything to get their hands on power even tarnish Poland's name, drag it through the mud, and appeal to a foreign power to intervene in Polish politics.
hague1cmaeron   
14 Apr 2012
News / Presidential elections and debates 2015 Poland [472]

You just can't deal with the fact that your PIS friends are trying to sell Poland down the river to the Russians, by calling on the Polish parliament to ask for Russian intervention. That is called treachery. PIS is the modern day equivalent of Targowica, Poland's fifth columnists.

You have no clue about Polish politics and let it say that way.

Yes and that probably explains why I predicted the last election correctly and you didn't. Should I remind you of some of the comments you made prior to the election?
hague1cmaeron   
14 Apr 2012
News / Presidential elections and debates 2015 Poland [472]

Latest initiative of chairman Kaczynksi: "PIS is forwarding a petition to the Polish Sejm which urges the Russian Duma to act on Poland's behalf, because the Polish Government and Sejm are incapable of dealing with the Smolensk disaster in a legal manner"

Anyone heard Targowica? So what is the normal way one deals with traitors?
8:34 in the video.


hague1cmaeron   
12 Apr 2012
History / Poland did reasonably well in land terms out of the postwar settlement [270]

In West Germany every major city has its Breslauer, Stettiner, Danziger and Königsberger Straße.

In the majority of cases no, for the simple reason that cities like Breslau, already had names like Wroclaw etc, since some of those lands once belonged to Poland so they already had names. As for the places that didn't,I am not sure.
hague1cmaeron   
8 Apr 2012
History / The story about German- Polish reconciliation [194]

I think Poland and Germany today deserve credit for having cordial relations.

I think i would describe them as warmer than cordial. As you mentioned Tusk and Merkel get along really well. The last three German Presidents have chosen Poland as their first foreign destination. And they have instituted annual cabinet to cabinet meetings to discuss issues of common interest and general political initiatives.
hague1cmaeron   
8 Apr 2012
History / The story about German- Polish reconciliation [194]

Poland's foreign minister has gone beyond mere reconciliation, and has set out on building a close relationship. This is his recent statement delivered to Parliament:

" On account of our bilateral trade, but also increasingly due to the similarities between our economic cultures and political concepts, Germany is our most important European partner. Whether we look at its population, GDP, or the voting powers acquired under the Lisbon Treaty, Germany is the biggest shareholder in the European Union . The ‘biggest’ – with around one-fourth of shares – but not the ‘dominant’ one. This means that it is difficult to get anything done in the EU against Germany’s will, but it also means that in order to implement its ideas, Germany must look for more than just one partner. If a given endeavour is at risk, obviously it is the biggest shareholder that has the greatest responsibility – and the most means – to come to the rescue. We want to work together towards a stronger Union. As I said to our German friends during my speech in Berlin: “Provided you include us in decision-making, Poland will support you.”"

He describes Germany as Poland's most important European partner.
hague1cmaeron   
8 Apr 2012
News / Presidential elections and debates 2015 Poland [472]

you are not completely up to date with fresh political news from Poland - Danuta Huebner PO EUMP announced that Donald Tusk is an official Polish candidate to the post of the Chairman (President?) of European Commission (the EU government) (the current one is Manuel Barroso to focus your attention) - this is so much for the Tusk's retirement plans

If that report is true, which is a possibility-the way these things work is that you can't show that you are too keen or otherwise you are viewed as too ambitious, what usually happens is that your minions sound everybody out by putting forward a hypothetical scenario, which goes something like this: "If Mr Tusk declared his interest in running for EU president/chairman would you vote for him? Based on the information the minions get, they brieaf Tusk with the information, and if there is enough support for him he declares his interest in a subtle way.

Having said all of this, he is on record as saying that he is not interested, so if he said that he was that would mean that he has changed his mind.

Admirer from afar, why don't you come to Poland and help him ?
provided you do speak Polish :)

You going to put me up whilst I give him my support(:

I would have you know that last year and early this year i lived in Poland for a grand total of 2 months, i did not get the opportunity of supporting him apart from arguing with my family about how silly they are disliking him and supporting kaczynski instead. Unfortunately some Poles are caught in a communist mindset, they view everything through the same old prism, and although they profess how much they hate communism they are nostalgic about the social security that went along with communism.
hague1cmaeron   
8 Apr 2012
Life / Polish history as a school subject in western Europe [24]

Cheeky bugger, never heard of Danelaw? Dane Geld? No,why should you have lol.....Basically,the Danish Norsmen were the hardest Vikingers :)

Well Canute was a 1/2 Polish and the other 1/2 Danish i think, so there is a bit of Polish/Danish association, but very few people would know about it.
hague1cmaeron   
7 Apr 2012
News / Presidential elections and debates 2015 Poland [472]

I understand you think Donald Tusk is a man with a vision - I believe that the only vision Donald Tusk has is for himself (with Poland in the background - a situation similar to Hitler's) (perhaps he would like to imagine himself as a father of a nation - but a nation conceived by such a figure will be a nation of psychotic egoistic bastards)

I think that the above description is more attributable to Kaczynski than to Tusk, after all Kaczynski sees himself as the "savior", or did you forget about how he described the situation how people where calling on him to save Poland. If he was a man of greater charisma and stature such an observation would be frightening, but given what he is it is rather funny and sad.

I believe that the only vision Donald Tusk has is for himself

Yes that probably explains why he has decided to retire in 2014, and in the process sacrificed his personal ambition in the part's favor-just like he refused to nominate for President because he wanted to be the PM, so he could actually do something for Poland.
hague1cmaeron   
7 Apr 2012
News / Presidential elections and debates 2015 Poland [472]

you have your views and I have mine - and I also see that there is some movement behind the scenes to get rid of Tusk as he 'worn himself out'

Well you are not very observant, because Tusk himself is on record as saying that he will not lead his party to the next election. Tusk will retire in 2014, giving his successor (most probably Sikorski or Nowak) the opportunity of cementing his position for the 2015 election. The thing with Tusk is that he is 10 steps ahead of his opponents, before Kaczynski even manages to wipe his arse in the morning Tusk already has the rest of the day planned out.

That is why PO and Tusk are taking the tough decisions early, so that Tusk's successor has an easier run at the next election campaign. What will probably happen is that Tusk's successor will have a honeymoon period, all the tough decisions will be taken care of, the economy will hopefully be well and truly in the boom phase again, hopefully Kaczynski will still be the opponent-older and probably more demented than before, which will mean that all things taken together PO should win a 3 consecutive term in office.
hague1cmaeron   
7 Apr 2012
News / Presidential elections and debates 2015 Poland [472]

I believe that the definition of madness is trying the same things over thinking that you are going to get a different result. I distinctly seem to remember that you were saying the same things before the general election, and the only thing that happened is that people like me and pawian were proved right and you and ironside were proved wrong. So my question is how many times do you need to have egg over your face to realize that the vast majority of people don't see Poland's reality the way you do.

What they see is a increasingly prosperous country which is weathering the economic storm around it, a competent government that is prepared to take the tough decisions for the country's future. And than they see a weak and divided opposition who can do nothing else but criticize, led by a leader with a distinctly probable metal illness. Why would anybody vote for this so called opposition, when they are a complete shower. How can they possibly govern Poland when they can't even govern themselves. And who can honestly say that they feel any attraction towards a party with a mentally ill leader, and a spokesman (Hoffman) that is a chubby cheeked opportunist who will stoop to anything to win power for the sake of it.

I think that this division is could news, it will mean that Poles will only have to vote once in the presidential election.
hague1cmaeron   
6 Apr 2012
History / The story about German- Polish reconciliation [194]

I imagine you became whatever nationality wasnt getting butchered at the specific time you were asked what nationality you were :(

Well lets face it, self preservation and survival is your primary goal, that is a pretty good way to play it(:
hague1cmaeron   
6 Apr 2012
History / The story about German- Polish reconciliation [194]

Kaminski ,as the spelling suggests, had a Polish Father and German mother

you are right actually, I read somewhere a description of his describing him as Russian but wiki says something else.
hague1cmaeron   
6 Apr 2012
History / The story about German- Polish reconciliation [194]

Bronislav Kaminski

Was a Russian not a Pole. Bach-Zalewski had a Polish background though.

A mate of mine has a (completly random) theory about this. The Poles and Russians still "goose step" because its the best way not to slip and fall on snow and ice :) Never mind that it destroys your lower legs....just dont want people falling over on parade :)

Funny but obviously not true, I am not sure if it helps though. To be fair to them it's only like half a "goose Step"-it's not the knee high lift like the Germans used to do it and the Russians continue doing it.
hague1cmaeron   
5 Apr 2012
History / The story about German- Polish reconciliation [194]

I think Jordan could be Dutch, Deresz possibly Swedish or German, and Prugar-Ketling possibly German as well, or at least 1/2 his surname indicates this. Though as you pointed out that isn't 100% definite, although the others almost certainly are.
hague1cmaeron   
5 Apr 2012
History / The story about German- Polish reconciliation [194]

One interesting historical paradox is that while the Germans gave up on the Prussian march otherwise know as the "goosestep"-for obvious historical reasons, the Poles continue to practice it:


hague1cmaeron   
5 Apr 2012
History / The story about German- Polish reconciliation [194]

At least we were able to Germanize this guy:

(: a good attempt

However there are a few more Polish generals of German origin in WWII:
Władysław Langner

general

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mieczyslaw_Norwid-Neugebauer

Bronisław Prugar-Ketling

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bronis%C5%82aw_Prugar-Ketling

The following didn't fight in WWII but they fought for Poland in the Polish-Bolshevik war: General dyw. Gustaw Orlicz-Dreszer

Tadeusz Jordan-Rozwadowski:

General dyw. Jan Edward Romer

pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jan_Romer

And on the topic of German/Polish reconciliation I can't think of a better example than Róża Maria Gräfin von Thun und Hohenstein, a Polish member of the EU parliament. Her son Christoph Thun und Hohenstein speaks Polish and German and will spend part of his studies in Poland and Germany.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/R%C3%B3%C5%BCa_Thun
hague1cmaeron   
5 Apr 2012
History / The story about German- Polish reconciliation [194]

Don't underestimate our power to Germanize Slavs.

I don't doubt you have a lot of pulling power but I think the Poles have got more.
A few examples:

some notable Polish generals of German origin who fought for Poland in WWII, including:

General Franciszek Kleeberg-arguably the best polish general in the conflict.

upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/cd/Kleeberg.jpg/220px-Kleeberg.jpg

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Franciszek_Kleeberg

Władysław Anders
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/W%C5%82adys%C5%82aw_Anders

And General Juliusz Rómmel
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Juliusz_R%C3%B3mmel
apparently a relation of the desert fox

Józef Unrug
fought for Germany in WW1 and later for Poland in WWII
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/J%C3%B3zef_Unrug

I think that is partly because this:
youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=sgnZ7htD8A4
is far more interesting than this (:
youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=fAX1RD2BFJ4
hague1cmaeron   
28 Mar 2012
History / The story about German- Polish reconciliation [194]

Faced with looking exceptionally stupid, the guy saw a 100zl note in my wallet and said (in Polish!) - we can accept Zloty.

You got to be careful with that delph, you do know that Frederick the Great counterfeited the Polish currency(:

Komorowski, who was also an anti-communist dissident, gave Gauck an original historic poster of Solidarity.

it turned out that he already had a copy of this poster, he will take one home and leave the other in the office(:
hague1cmaeron   
25 Mar 2012
News / Drunken Brit beats up young Polish policewoman [62]

Brits abroad 5.5 million. Brits in prison abroad 2600

source please?

Where i live there was a whole colony devoted to them, and they have grown to over 20 million in number.