History / Poland's biggest historical blunder? [341]


Torq, it is not about Wyshneweckij or anyone in particular. It is the policy of your country through the centuries in this region. Pick up a year, look at the region's history and you will see what I am talking about. The oppressive policies continued till the operation "Wisla" in 1947. Until everyone was finally deported, massacred, destroyed, f*cked both in your the highest cultural center of the Universe and my stupid region with not-intelligent people.


We still in need of Polish brains, just not sure where: in books or on the walls.

History / Poland's biggest historical blunder? [341]


I am not trying to reach any reconciliation.


Poles are always saints, especially when they start to cry and mumble ;)


No, it is something that some dumbheads in centuries can't understand. Among those it seems are you and Socki.


Poland is always the strongest. Who ever argued?


Maybe, a swine flu.

Love / I need advice: divorce and my rights as a father in Poland [165]


Hate and anger are not more vices than love or happiness.


You seem to go with reason in these matters and as far as I can see you are very unhappy and disappointed. Someday you will find Her. Just don't use too much of your frontal cortex :)

History / Poland's biggest historical blunder? [341]


Ukraine too, but what did they stand for? Sucking to the commies?!


BS. But dream on.


I remember you posting a picture of a Gypsy woman who killed her kids.
Anyhow, the Ukrainians are a patient nation which respects others. But when you push us too far as Poland did in 1920-30s we start a murderous rampage. So, please, don't push our buttons, moreover, on our land.

History / Poland's biggest historical blunder? [341]

The Ukrainian army didn't terrorize Poles. Both Ukrainian and Polish armies were weakened and practically exterminated in 1945-1956 period by the commies.


What about them and who murdered them? There were mutual atrocities committed and we already talked about that. Hundred thousand Poles in Volyn were murdered by NKVD. Sure, many died from a Ukrainian hand due to the stupid policies your country lead from 1340 to 1947 which killed many of my compatriots. But it seems it is changing and it is nice :)

History / Poland's biggest historical blunder? [341]


At least we did it at home and against Jewish commies, not like invading barbarians from Poland who besides organizing post-WWII pogroms of Jews managed to come over and murder civilians in Ukraine, Lithuania and the Czech republic.

History / Poland's biggest historical blunder? [341]


There were no Poles in Vilnius A.D 1920 except Polish invading barbarians. The rest were citizens of the Austro-Hungarian empire. I see we are on the same page.


Did you recognize the government you aimed to install forcefully in Lithuania in 1919 by overthrowing their legitimite government?


Was it yours?


Poles organized "plebiscite" in August 1919:


en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1919_Polish_coup_d%27%C3%A9tat_attempt_in _Lithuania

Scumbags, no comment.

History / Poland's biggest historical blunder? [341]


Then why did you fight? According to your logic the fight is not necessary when the city is yours.


I don't know about what happened in Vilnius, but in Lviv the Polish barbarians murdered civilians, looted the stores and stole whatever they could. The Lithuanians didn't want to risk it on their lands.

News / Visegrad Battle Group under the command of Poland [261]


Full support on that one :)


I don't think it is necessary.

History / Poland's biggest historical blunder? [341]


Here is the glorious Polish "army" or better "zbrodniarzy w mundurach" in action:


en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morgenthau_Report


en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polish%E2%80%93Ukrainian_War


It is natural for intellectual dwarfs, gumishu.


Wow. Why did you fight for 3 weeks against the Nazis then in 1939? Why fight if it is yours? The Lithuanians fought because it was their capital and because they knew what the Polish army will do to their city after the capture: loot, destroy the stores, steal private property and kill civilians. Any reasonable person would defend their city against this type of barbarians.

Food / Okocim double-hopped? [6]


Me likes hops sprinkled with beer :)=

News / Visegrad Battle Group under the command of Poland [261]

I have no idea who G. Friedman is, but I agree on what he said in regards of Turkey. Any military cooperation within the Eastern Europe should definitely include Turkey. I support rock that the alliance should be a well-balanced alliance of the equal members, if any. It can't and shouldn't be devised against the West, but it should be more considerate to the problems of the region, which the West understandably doesn't give a damn about. Ukraine and Turkey have interests in improving their standing within the Black Sea basin and this is to be done by limiting the Russian presence. I bet Poland has its concerns in the Baltic. We might be of help to each other. Eventual expansion of the alliance should slowly move eastward (Georgia, Azerbajdzan, Armenia etc.) NATO is overexpanded and its interests are limited to the powerhouses' business. Local military or similar type of alliance might be of great value to the states of our region.

History / Poland's biggest historical blunder? [341]


The Marshall plan was offered to the USSR and its satellites too, but there was a refusal as you know. It shows at least initial intent which contained no confrontation. The plan had in mind not specifically the West Germany or the Good Old West only. The US had the money and the businesses flourishing after WWII. To sustain the growth you need partners. Rebuilding Europe and Japan and creating a nice market here and there was very important for the US. Of course, it wasn't all that sweet and having the tenticles in other countries was definitely in the agenda too.


They should have devised reparations in a civilized way, letting the country first to rebuild, feed its people and then establish something to cover the damages. They did the other way around: drained the country when it was on the verge of collapse and then when it was too late started to soften up in front of an accelerating development of WWII. Look at the Weimar elections in 1928 Nazis had only 3% support. What usually happens is the politicians screw up the fighting countries, then they screw up the defeated one and then they screw the victors until everyone is destroyed and no one wants the war anymore. We are the most retarded animals of all.

News / Don't let Poland become like my country, France. [630]


Nobody tries to pretend, of course, since you and I know about it. The issue is of developping new technologies today to not have to shift garbage around the Earth pointlessly, since as you said, it doesn't eliminate the problem. The EU stands at the top in this regard and I don't think you would argue. If we take the passive approach and drive Ladas polluting the environment like WWII tanks then what will happen to the world if the population hits 10 billion mark? It might result in vodka-pollution as well and I don't think Russia will appreciate it;)

News / Don't let Poland become like my country, France. [630]


That's what you got from my post? Envy to Russia? I do envy a bit the Western European countries' way of social organization. I admit. But Russia? Come on :) I don't feel superior or inferior to anyone, sascha.


It never was and never will be. Except, probably, in vodka-consumption.


If 1.6 billion people see it as normal... But at least they are trying to invent something that will reduce the negative effects of the industrial plants' pollution by persuing the greener energy sources utilization. The denial of the attempt to create something better is what you are presenting. And I (and you too) know that it is not right.

News / Don't let Poland become like my country, France. [630]

Or Sokrates tongue-flipping technique. It might replace a thousand hamsters. But will Poland borrow him to Russia? :)

News / Don't let Poland become like my country, France. [630]


I haven't expected any other conclusion from you. Somehow they manage to live normally and think about the future since resources are not here forever. You think that it is Ok to live in garbage and don't invent anything new. Why? Even if it takes hundred years - it is worth it, because when there is no oil or gas anymore, how will you power your home, car, boat,..? I know you are trying to play a devil's advocate, but can't you do it better, with more solid arguments?

News / Don't let Poland become like my country, France. [630]


I am scared of stupidity. Because it has no logic or explanation. Because normal people don't waste time on inventing ways to destroy progress. They, on the other hand, have only one goal - to trample you. Backwardness leads to disasters. Homo sovetici is a menace for those countries which remember "kovbasa" (sausage) of 1970s and how cheap it might have been, but forget about persecutions, prisons, millions murdered in Siberia and at home, fear to be, to express who you are ethnically, sexually, intellectualy, you name it. Those people enjoyed doing nothing and get the same as others who spent studying or working. These people are mindless, brutal mess of degenerates who is afraid to open up their minds and see a bit more. They are satisfied in living with no progress, as long as there is "Kalinka-malinka", a rotten dried cod with a bottle of vodka. In addition, most of that mess, in my country is made of the Russians who do nothing, but dig under.

News / Don't let Poland become like my country, France. [630]


I don't think one will find them anywhere, because even the Neanderthals (sorry, ancestors, no offense) tried to find better tools to improve their lives. Homo sovetici are the worst branch of humanity, it thrives in regression and moves backward, no matter how hard it is.

News / Poland-EU: Positive and negative features? [45]


We still fighting the homos sovetici here, so it will be a while even to be considered for the membership. But in regards of drinks, I think everything will be fine :)

News / Poland-EU: Positive and negative features? [45]


Like their bottles :) and the drink too.


It depends what you smoke, BB :)

History / Russians 'tortured to death' in Polish camps? [58]


Palivec, I agree with most of what you said, but to be friendly with the Russians in case of Russia-bordering states is to learn to love being spit at and bent over after every whistle. I don't think you would agree to that. You might say: "Oh, but we are talking about 1920 and the POW" and other historical events. Just realize: IT DOESN'T MATTER. This slime covers 1/9th of the Earth and they still bugger every surrounding state, destroying the possibility for normal development with their red flags, raping soldiers, KGB priests and other crap. You don't understand (I am not condescending) what they are. Not a single step backward is allowed when dealing with them, even in the innocent thing like remembering the past. Because if you do, the next thing, they will accuse you of something else and eat you alive.

News / Poland-EU: Positive and negative features? [45]


That's nice to hear. So, making judgement on the post I read there are much more positive elements than negative and the developping economy has a chance to succeed. That's great.


Did people start drinking more? Or it was like a forbidden fruit, when produced in abundance, everyone stopped paying attention? ;)

News / Poland-EU: Positive and negative features? [45]


This is ridiculous. It seems one of the ways for the EU to cut its budget is to reduce independency of the member states, making local governments redundant and thus non-expensive. Or the other way around, but it will weaken the Union both politically and economically.

What about the economies of the economically-weaker states? Are they simply taken over and reduced to the resourses-base while the markets are flooded with the produce of the few? Or it is somehow supported to help the initial adaptation to the higher western standards?I have no real idea, since I haven't been to the EU, besides Poland, not long after it became a member.

News / EU tribunal overrules Polish name contest in Lithuania [150]

To the mods: I talked a bit about language ;)


Says who? Koala? And Poles captured Lithuanian territory.


Prior to the war it had no territory and was a minority in the Austrian empire: no lands whatsoever.


Now you lost. And?


The Britain gave Poland all the assistance it could. I personally would break the agreement just as Poland did with Lithuania (to "prevent the bloodshed" as you said).


Just like it was held in Poland in 1946-47. Why Lithuania didn't want to recognize the lost territories as Polish?


You see. But there are some who whine that they don't like spelling in Lithuanian. It is a fuss about nothing, indeed.

News / EU tribunal overrules Polish name contest in Lithuania [150]


I guess this Poland didn't like and used its usual low-blow tactics.

News / EU tribunal overrules Polish name contest in Lithuania [150]


Well:






en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Lithuania

Seems like they did try to defend their lands and their capital. It is the same to say why the Polish didn't defend Warsaw in September 1939.


If Soviets didn't enter Poland in 1944, how long would it take it to fall in the arms of the Allies?


The Soviets protected Poland and the Polish brought, instead of gratitude, Solidarnosc and occupied Soviet Warsaw.

News / Don't let Poland become like my country, France. [630]

Just my five cents to the conversation.
No matter what has happened in the past, who killed or raped whom, there should be respect by those who come to live to the foreign country. This includes: the knowledge of the language, respect to the laws of the country (no matter what your believes or ideas back at home) and becoming an integrated citizen who don't raise demands when the natives keeps their mouths shut. This is my approach. I might voice my support of the local people, but never go against their ways of life. If I want to wear a burka in Sweden or a cross in Mekka, I do it in my hotelroom. Simple as that. My hyper excentric "pride" I might express in my home country, not as a guest in someone else's home.

News / EU tribunal overrules Polish name contest in Lithuania [150]


???? What does it mean? One may then say the same about Chinese.


Why has there to be people of one nationality? Cyrillic is used in Ukrainian, Beloruski, Serbian, Russian, Bulgarian, Croatian, Montenegrin etc languages. There is quite a minority of these people in Poland to have their names in Polish passports printed in Cyrillic. But they don't. So, why whine about the Lithuanian demands in regards to Polish way of writing?