News / Polish Foreign Ministry 'prepared' for new Wikileaks material [100]

At last a politician has the balls to point the finger of blame for the release of the cables. At the Americans

foxnews.com/world/2010/12/08/australia-blame-leaks-assange/

They gave 2.5 million US citizens full access and the ability to download the entire diplomatic cable history. As would be expected, one of them, a US army officer with psycological issues, leaked them.

News / Polish Foreign Ministry 'prepared' for new Wikileaks material [100]


Its a point of fact that Russia ran a military exercise at that time, it was well reported. If you want to live in a fantasy world and believe in faries, please be my guest.


Actualy the Chinese to a vey large extent have a gret apriotic belief in theri country and support it through choice.


What sort of idiot are you? Jailing him will have no effect on the leaks or wikipedia whatsoever. Well, maybe one, currently the newspapers are editing and screening the information. If, as expected. Assange is murdered or prosecuted they wil release the unlock key for the entire cables to anyone who has downloaded the encrypted file.

So basicaly the entire store of all cables will be released to the world with no filtering whatsoever. Because the US decided to prosecute one man out of pure spite, with fabricated charges.

Note that he has done nothing illegal, the newspapers have done the same thing - publish the cables - they did not steal them.

News / Polish Foreign Ministry 'prepared' for new Wikileaks material [100]


They are smart enough to think about it.

Didnt you read the article? Last year they ran an exercise to plan for an invasion of the Baltics and a nuclear attack on Poland.

News / Polish Foreign Ministry 'prepared' for new Wikileaks material [100]


What sort of world do you think we live in? Politicians decide the policy and the military fufil it. The West had a policy of engaging and trading Russia (as does Ploand now, it would seem), but they have come to the conclusion that they need to be military strong with Russia as its the only thing that they understand. Thats what the cable say.


For what? agreeing to defend the Baltics with their citizens lives?

The west has nothing to be 'ashamed' of, its policies have worked fine so far and Germany has been following this for twenty year. Acutally invading Russia has been tried before and it does work, what does work in Europe is economic integration, so they don't want to forgo it

If Russia is real existential threat, and a known one, to Poland then that will damage its economic prospects. Do companies like Dell want to invest I a Eastern European war zone or a secure and stable West?

News / Polish Foreign Ministry 'prepared' for new Wikileaks material [100]


They were.

That is now is the past, its no longer true, things have changed. Its history.

Now Russia is a considered a potential military threat, being nice is no longer an option.

Odd that the UK is supplying combat divisions, however I suspect its becuase they switched over to being air mobile rapid response a few years ago... they are now capable of getting to the baltics quickly. Bring on the A400M.

News / Polish Foreign Ministry 'prepared' for new Wikileaks material [100]




guardian.co.uk/world/2010/dec/06/wikileaks-cables-nato-russia-baltics

News / Poland has low murder rate [60]


Something wrong with that figure- apparently from the year 2000 . Why is it five time higher than later years.

News / Polish Foreign Ministry 'prepared' for new Wikileaks material [100]


If America is simply a democracy, why does it have military bases in three quarters of the worlds countries? geekpolitics.com/what-do-azerbaijan-djibouti-and-suriname-have-in -common/ for a list of countries.

Thats is an Empire, 'democratic' or not and the diplomatic cable are its inner workings. What they show is how badly run and impotent the Empire has become, precisely the opposite of what the Project for a New American Centuary had planned.

The neocons screwed the US Empire.

Meanwhile the brainwashed drones parrot the party line. As the man said, you would be just as happy under the communists as the 'worlds leading democracy' (lol).

Accurate summary of the status ..

guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2010/dec/01/wikileaks-embassy-cables-us-global-power

News / Smoking ban in Polish bars and restaurants (AT LAST!) [400]


Fine if its private, as such you cannot sell alcohol or tobbaco to anyone.

However, if you want a license to do so, you have to follow the laws of the land. Same if you employ anyone staff, delivery people or cleaners then its a workplace and again there are laws and rights. Staff a not slaves, for instance. You don't own them by employing them just as you don't own the customers who visit your 'private' bar.

News / Smoking ban in Polish bars and restaurants (AT LAST!) [400]


As you know all bars have to allow smoking otherwise some of their custom would dissaper. So a 'optional' ban is no such thing. Meanwhile the employees and non-smokers are subjected to smoke and the bar owner is legally resposible for the health effects to his staff and customers. Any bar owner who banned smoking and gave a **** about his customers and staff would be in a very poor competative position.

Its a riduculous situation and its why smoking has been banned by the EU.

The point of debat has long since past, so now its just whining.


Where is it?

News / Smoking ban in Polish bars and restaurants (AT LAST!) [400]


Agreed.

News / Smoking ban in Polish bars and restaurants (AT LAST!) [400]


Whiny non-smoker. Got a life time of that ahead of you to complain.

Let me use the argument smokers have used for the last 200 years; If you don't like it, F*** off.

I've spend my life have whiny smokers shitting in my face. Now the boot's on the other foot - screw you.

News / Smoking ban in Polish bars and restaurants (AT LAST!) [400]


Yeah, screw the rights of everybody else to breath clean air. You smoke, I get cancer thats my freedom, eh?

I have a tradition, its called self defense, someone trys to kill me I'll defend myself with a baseball bat in a smokers face.

Cheers!

Seriously, Bar owners will now have unlimited liabilty for the effects of smoke on their employee's and customers. Just walking into a room where smokers have been is classified as a health risk. I somehow doubt that the police will not start enforce the law with the possibilty of easy money, my wife was fined for smoking near a bus stop, FFS.

Love / What do Polish guys think of Irish girls? [187]


True but Ireland is part of Britain.

The English get just as confused about Britain and England being one and the same (when they are not).

Law / Threatened to serve papers if I don't remove a review about a renting company in Poland [62]

You mentioned that you couldn't find their office? Well, guess what they don't have one, they are a bunch of cowboys.

I think a large number of negative postings around the internet about euro-rent.pl wiuld be in order. Don't worry about 'legal action' its bullshit.

News / People says that EU bringing many nice things to Poland. Tell me about it [104]


Indeed its probably Crows grandfather, what with the serbs DNA being 25% arab.

Life / The Polish people have a strange attitude to cats and dogs? [84]


Not unusual . My wife grew up next to a forest, people were always abandoning dogs in the woods.


Any dog more than 150 meters from a house, without a collar, can be shot. Dogs in the country are used to guard the house, having it roaming about the garden means it could be poisened/killed by a potential burglar - without entering the property.

Real Estate / Is this a bad time to buy an apartment in Poland? [142]

Apparently its a secret. If you have to ask, you can't afford it. MY usual resposne is to look elsewhere, I never undertsand the logic of hiding the price of such a commodity.

History / When will you Poles give back German land and the cities which you robbed? [557]


Quite frankly the Germans should be glad that the soviets let them exist. Its not a future Hitler had for the Jews and Poles.

Poland would be a much happier place if its neighbours were France, we could make day trips to Paris , the Alps and the Cote d'Azure and discuss 'what if germany still existed?' on PF.

Law / Investors/Entrepreneurs.. Steer Clear of Poland. [77]

Employees are an investment, the biggest you have. My business is as far away from fast food as possible (consultancy), but I understand you have to accept that employee's are human and wil make mistakes, that they need time to learn and exist as humans.

But if you own a fasty food joint and treat your employees as something akin to poatoes with a hire 'em and fire 'em attitude, don't be surprised that the treat you the same. Pay someone and treat them as you would want to be in the circumstances.

I agree with the OP, Poland is a buracratic nightmare - its even listed as such in international research. If you think the problems with getting gas and electricity supply are normal, you need your head seeing to. To get a service in the UK, you basically order it online or over the phone and a contract is signed and the service, eventually, supllied. There is nothing else a customer should have to do.

Real Estate / TRESPASSING ON MY LAND IN POLAND....what can i do legally...? [119]


No, and I cannot stand the place.

Real Estate / TRESPASSING ON MY LAND IN POLAND....what can i do legally...? [119]


How will I learn any differant? every Pole I know is positive about hunting. I bow to your superior knowledge about it and Poland, however. The Poles I know must be wrong.

Life / My own thoughts about life in Poland (have lived here for two years) [133]

I agree with most of the OP's post. There is an reason for Polands predicament, its economically under developed. Its will take 10-20 more years for its and the other ex-communist states to recover and build their GDP. A richer, better paid population will be more open minded and travelled.

The EU exists to bring countries into 'convergence', its happened to Greece, Ireland and Spain and it will happen here.

Please wait....

When I grew up in the UK, Alf Garnet was on TV complaining about 'Darkies' and the ministrles were blacking up. How things change.

Real Estate / TRESPASSING ON MY LAND IN POLAND....what can i do legally...? [119]


Hmm, I live in Poland and have done for a year. I also go on hunts to learn what goes on, the fact is neither you nor I have any influence on what happens in this country. I prefer to accept that they have differant attitudes here and live with it, you are bringing your opinions from the UK, whereas I have dropped mine.

News / Poland's elite more pro-US than society? [29]

Poles should realise that the USA doesn't give a **** about its allies. Its interest only extends to expanding/defending its world power. For instance, if Poland could be used to damage Russia it would be fine; the affect on poland itself would be irrelevant. Polands protection from Russia would come from NATO, not the USA. British Nukes would be as essential defense as the USA's - if the US had to decide whether to risk US cities getting nuked to protect Poland, they would sell poland down the river just as they did before.


Tell me when the US has done anything to help poland?

Real Estate / TRESPASSING ON MY LAND IN POLAND....what can i do legally...? [119]


I fail to see how any of that is relevant, in fact you must be damn well aware that your comment that they shoot everything in sight is ********. And are you claiming that hunters shoot food and throw it away? Thats ridiculous, especialy given the fee's they have to pay to do shoot it and its high value.


You think so? I don't like the idea of killing something at all, but I've come to accept that its a fact of life if you eat meat. There has been a lot of discussion about the sourcing of food in the Uk that hopefully makes people more understanding of the consequences of their eating. For instance the series where they slaughtered various animals and then fed the studio audiences with the result was illuminating.

Do you kill and eat your own animals, chickens for instance? It might be a good idea to try it.

Getting back to topic, if you want to keep apple theieves and hunters away, put up a fence and a sign telling people to keep out. I'm surprised nobody told you this before.

Real Estate / TRESPASSING ON MY LAND IN POLAND....what can i do legally...? [119]

Hunter are not allowed to have a particular advantage; powerful telescopic sights, lying down to to shoot, shooting from a vehicle are all banned. Shooting standing up makes it very difficult to hit the target, which is the point. I've accompanied hunts about half a dozen times and hunters miss the vast majority of the time. Hunting is not about anillihating everything in site.


I was hoping you could provide me an argument as to why you are better than a hunter eating meat killed from the wild rather than a slaughter house. Ok, I'm fine with silly vegatarian/small penis comments. Hypercritical meat eaters are idiots anyway.


Nope, becuase its obviously impossible to know what everyone is shooting at unless you are next to every hunter - which is impossible. Shot size is also different for differant game and the kill range with a shot gun is 25 meters so shooting 'everything' is impossible and extreemly unlikely are they miss what they are hunting 75% of the time even when its in range. Conclusion; you are talking crap. You don't like hunters for personal reason, why don't you move to a city where it won't be a problem?

Real Estate / TRESPASSING ON MY LAND IN POLAND....what can i do legally...? [119]


You are a hypocrite. Its very easy to decide that your eating of a hamburger is no way connected to the ****** life and terrorfying death of of a pig or cow, especially if you are brought up in the supermarket society.

You obviously have killed many animals for fun as eating meat is an optional, pleasurable, pastime. Just because you didn't witness its death doesn't excempt you from responsibility.

I stopped eating meat for 10 years becuase I didn't want anything to do with the factory farming process and because I don't particulary like meat.

I have no problem with hunting however; its honest. You kill and eat the food and can see the whole disgusting process, the animals have a completly natural existance, abeit with assistance to help them through winter. Hunters don't just hunt for trophies in Poland, the food is the main reason - its good quality.

I decide a long time ago that I would put my money where my mouth is - for instance I scaled, defined, gutted and filleted fish. I have gone along with hunts and will help prepare the meat. I may not actually eat it, but I accept that men are carnivores and we have hunted and eaten meat for millions of years. Snotty nosed attitudes like yours are one of the reasons I like Poland more than the UK, for too many British peopel think meat comes form a plastic container.


Hunters manage wildlife so that they can hunt it. Much like other farmers, its a food source that is given freer range and its a very expensive way of producing food but its a hell of a lot better than factory farming which is rife in Poland. Polish pig farms are some of the worse in the world.

Hunters maybe elitist, but thats the law unfortunaly. It very difficult to get a license and thats a good thing. Problem, is they are desperate for more hunters as its so damn expensive and difficult to get into - its taken my brother in law many years to get his license and that with his father being the hunt master. Personally i cannot see that its worth all the effort.

Real Estate / TRESPASSING ON MY LAND IN POLAND....what can i do legally...? [119]


Actually I believe its 150 meters not 300 meters. I've seen wild dogs roaming myself and they are a problem. Hunters feed the 'wild game' to eat and pay farmers for the damage they cause, they even buy the land surrounding forests so that the boar and deer eat their crops rather than other farmers who have to be compensated. In the case of pheasants they pay for them to be bred and released. Not surprising they shoot dogs let loose by irresponsible owners (of whom there are many).

Having said that, I would not be surprised if a hunter shot a dog with collar on. Keep dogs close to the house...


The deer belong to the hunters in effect, they pay for their upkeep when they shoot them.
The chance you would have a gun without the hunters knowing about it are nil; you need to be in a club to get a license and penalties for having an illegal gun are severe.

Work / Au pair in Poland, how much should I earn? Taxes and insurance. [13]


Be happy to earn 500, you get paid spending money to be an Au Pair.

My brother in law is very happy to get paid 2000zloty operating quarrying equipment which is a skilled job, an au pair provided with food and accommodation should not expect anything like 2000 per month.