UK, Ireland / Domestic arguments caused by differences between Polish and English culture [109]


No I couldn't take his! I don't really like alcohol much and rarely drink the stuff!

Love / How do I tell her how I feel? Working with a Polish woman. [24]

Just go for it! WB is right you have absolutely nothing to lose and possibly everything to gain.
Good luck, keep us all posted!

Love / Observations and experiences so far about Polish women [93]


That's quite a sad story Bill, your girlfriend did sound lovely but sometimes love can't conquer all.
I don't know too much about how the majority of Poles view gypsies? maybe there was some general dislike of them? there's a bit of suspiscion about gypsies in Britain too.

Looking at a couple of your other posts you do seem to imply that you've been a bit cavalier with the Polish girls you knew,maybe they wondered why you respected her more and treated her better? No woman deserves to be taken advantage of, whatever you think of her moral values, perhaps there was a bit of subconcious anger at you as well?

I'm glad that Roks has made a good life for herself now, hope that you will too, forgive my ignorance but what is 'the stump'.

UK, Ireland / Do Polish Immigrants in Great Britain hate each other? [60]


Looking at the history of Poland, I can see why you feel this. There are some huge differences in British/Polish mentalities, applying your reasoning certainly helps to understand them.

UK, Ireland / Domestic arguments caused by differences between Polish and English culture [109]


Tell me about it!!!!!!!
My ex was exactly the same wanted everything organised and done by me but threw a hissy fit if he thought I was telling him what to do??? Also threw hissy fits because I had my own life and friends, he expected me to drop them for his social circle or sit quietly at home!!!! that's just one cultural difference that led me to helping him leave my house (with a boot up the backside!).Don't get me started on the alcohol issues, the other little cultural difference.

UK, Ireland / Do the poles like British culture [127]


I think we all know that if a muslim did this he'd get abuse not support but to be honest I don't any muslims who would worry about it.


I may have misunderstood your point here,apologies if I have.
Most muslims are quite reasonable we only hear about the fanatics,the average muslim is very family orientated and more open minded than given credit for but the average non muslim never gets to see this side.

UK, Ireland / British + Polish relationship experiences [16]


Without doubt there are successful Anglo/Polish relationships, there are a considerable number of posters on the forum who are in happy relationships with Poles.

I don't want to be a 'wet blanket' but I do think you need to think carefully before you make any kind of legal commitment to this man. Most of the successful relationships are between Polish women and Non Polish men, there aren't as many of the reverse!

There is a much larger cultural gap than people realise and it's sometimes more difficult for a 'western' woman to bridge that gap than a man!

Think about what British girls are really like!
Independent
Like spending time with their 'girlfriends'/on hobbies/outside interests.
Quirky fashion sense/ sometimes not interested in fashion/make up.
Probably more focussed on their children than their partners!
Sometimes very career orientated.
Voice their opinions loudly.
Like their food!
All plus points in my opinion but not always to a Polish man. Polish women and British women are not the same in attitudes, behaviour and general outlook.

Also think about this.
Unless both people have extremely large incomes (or people defrauding the benefit system)
there is no financial advantage to living with a man or being married. People marry these days because they believe in traditional commitment or stability for children.

This does mean that British women are not dependent on having a husband/partner, given this we often have a different attitude to both men and marriage than some people of other European countries.

Have you also considered the economic situation? The recession has caused many Central/Eastern Europeans to consider returning home! There is also a lot of dissent about the EU, it's not impossible that Britain will leave, many people would welcome it. While it seems unlikely at the moment it may be that this man loses his right to stay and work in Britain.

I think perhaps you need to meet more Poles and look at their relationships, visit Poland, study a bit about the country/culture and learn a bit of the language. You may be able to make a more informed decision then.

I do sympathise with your dilemma,seven years ago a Polish man asked me to marry him, I refused but I did live with him for several years, the first couple of years were great as all new relationships are but once the honeymoon period was over it was awful and it took me a long time to get rid of the man. So do think carefully and make sure that you are protected legally in all ways if you decide to live with your gent!

Whatever happens all the best and i hope it does work out well.

Work / Looking To Move To Poland Within The Near Future. Teaching English or IT? [18]


This is excellent advice! You may find that there is a particular subject you like, your career choices may widen.
To teach a language you have to be faultless in every aspect. Teaching is a very demanding job so it's worth doing some voluntary work in a school or adult learning centre, just to be sure it's something you're going to enjoy. Personally I couldn't teach a language but there are plenty of other subjects to teach especially sciences.

If you study Polish to a high level you could also consider translation work.


My friend teaches there, it's a wonderful country, I visited her in 2011, the weather and food were amazing and the people really pleasant.
Good luck but if you want to teach please do it well because bad teachers exploiting people in other countries is contemptible!
Hope it all works out well for you.

Love / Do African or Afro- American women find Polish men attractive? [179]


You don't know, you think!


Well I certainly prefer boats.


I think that would be my choice given that I have and always have had a British passport

Get back on topic, please. Do African or Afro- American women find Polish men attractive?

Love / Do African or Afro- American women find Polish men attractive? [179]


Why do you think I'm not European???
However should you like to pay my airfare to the USA (or Brazil maybe?) i'll certainly go on holiday to check the place out!

Love / Do African or Afro- American women find Polish men attractive? [179]

Nacjonalista
Smart arse little video and I agree what has been done to Native American Indians (north and south) was deplorable.
However, I don't see your mates in the KKK or other white supremicist groups volunteering to return to Europe???
You can't carry on about keeping Europe white and then use a video clip like that it just shows you have double standards!!!
What you really mean is that Blacks/Asians have to go where YOU tell them too? Cut the cr-p and just be honest!!!

Love / Do African or Afro- American women find Polish men attractive? [179]


'Oi Roight mayt ?I 'm a brummie born and bred! I think I'm classed as white?

Love / Do African or Afro- American women find Polish men attractive? [179]

[quote=Nacjonalista]

My my, aren't we getting just a little excited????
I don't see any problem with going to a 'black country' or that we have a 'Black problem' in the UK.
Once all of my children have finished university I actually Intend to work in India for a few years.
I have been there many times and really love the place.I might even stay there.
If the rest of Europe has a problem with 'non whites' then that's their problem
As a nation Britain can't have unlimited Immigration but that includes 'white' immigration as well as black.
Successive British governments have brought about a situation whereby many people are better off on the dole than working and that has to be rectified and people put back into work.Once that's done Poles and other EU workers can return from 'whence they came'.

I don't personally blame Poles or EU workers for coming to the UK but they wouldn't keep us in Poland/elsewhere unless they needed us, so why keep them in the UK.

Britain used to be part of the 'Commonwealth' before some idiotic government took it into the EU. Many people in the UK feel that we have betrayed the 'Commonwealth' and would like to return to it if we were allowed . We owe the commonwealth a great deal we owe the EU nothing at all. If the economic situation improves and there are still jobs after British and commonwealth individuals are employed then the Poles etc are welcome to have them, but whilst I agree that there are problems with immigration in many countries, in the UK it's not a COLOUR PROBLEM, therefore I don't like White supremicist groups anywhere.

I believe that you live in Poland? apologies if you don't, if you are an American Pole and you want to keep white countries white a whole lot of you are going to have to 'p-ss off' back home' (including quite a few from Britain) as the USA and South America were initially owned by some ' Non white' Indians, how are your mates in the KKK going to deal with that one!!!

Love / Observations and experiences so far about Polish women [93]


Thanks for that, I will try and find out a bit more about the structure of the society


I think you are over reacting a little here, I said ''the Poles I know'' I didn't say Poles in general.


Since 2002 I have met, lived in the same area and worked with over 2000 Poles. I also know many more around the 'border areas'.
Some I mixed with socially, some I didn't.
Politics isn't something the Poles that I mix with talk about much, current affairs sometimes e.g when Kaczynski was killed,
ocassionally, the odd comment about communism. I haven't stated that Poles never talk about politics.
If you read my post again you will realise that I am not setting myself up as any kind of expert just writing about personal experiences.

I haven't made any comments about Britsh factory workers because it isn't relevant to the thread.
I have actually asked for some help in finding out about the structure of Polish society because I do understand that there are many things to learn about the country.

Love / Observations and experiences so far about Polish women [93]


No it won't be anymore and I suppose under communism there was still an 'elite'.


Obviously a lot deeper than I realised but as a Brit I tend to forget about class in connection with ex Eastern Bloc countries, my ignorance I'm afraid.


There certainly seemed to be a lot of what I would see as 'envy'.

Just out of interest are there any good articles/books about the class system in Poland? It's not something that most of the Poles I know would discuss, politics isn't a particularly popular subject with them. I'd be really pleased if you could reccomend one or two in English or Polish. Thanks.

Love / Do African or Afro- American women find Polish men attractive? [179]


I didn't know Catholics wwere welcome, bit of a surprise.


Yes sadly this is true and in my opinion as stupid as the KKK.
Britain would be much better off getting out of the EU we owe them Jack!!
The Common Wealth was much better, we sh-t on them really, we owe a great deal to the commonwealth and the many commonwealth soldiers.

Love / Observations and experiences so far about Polish women [93]

Difficult to assess what Polish women are really like. Most of my experiences were immigrant women living and working in Shropshire based in local factories.In the factory where I worked with many for about 5 years, they were very hard workers but lacked initiative.There were problems on a Monday morning with hangovers etc but not usually with the older women and there were problems with fighting over men ( not very attractive ones either!).On the positive side the women were cheerful and good fun, we laughed a lot and most women were fabulous bakers ( lovely cakes).Most women were able to work as a team which is important on a production line.

In my experience they were not interested in many things outside of the home or men, sometimes alcohol or make up.


That sums up the attitude very succinctly, a man appeared to be more importantant than an education or anything else.
I didn't find that the women formed real friendships, the man came above all else, female 'friends' were always secondary even if the man was a very new one.

I also observed that the women would happily steal boyfriends from their 'friends' even husbands on occasion, there was no 'sisterhood' as such.
Non Polish women who dated Polish men were met with a great deal of hostility but it was okay for Polish women to date British men!

There was also a great deal of aggro if we hired black or Asian workers but that came from the men as well as the women.

Sometimes we did get ambitious, educated women working in the factory and they were real 'ladies', really nice women but not always popular with the others

but I couldn't work out why?


Got to agree with you here, I don't know if the above experiences show positive or negative characteristcs in a woman, it depends what you want?

I have realised since reading PF that some of these characteristics are considered to be very positive by some men, especially putting a man first.

I suppose every individual values different qualities.


Yes, girls I thought were beautiful looking were rarely the ones that the Polish women themselves rated highly.
I have visited Poland a few times and didn't find much difference but that could just reflect the families i stayed with.

Love / Do African or Afro- American women find Polish men attractive? [179]


Seems like I will have to 'stand corrected' on that one because apparently they do accept Catholics in some Klans now!
Hopefully the Pope will give some edict on how Catholics should steer clear of this type of organisation and point out that miscegenation has never been a sin

and is quite a healthy biological precedent!

Love / Do African or Afro- American women find Polish men attractive? [179]


You should be grateful that a lovely black girl would even think about you and your race!
I hate to be the one to break this to you but the Klu Klux Klan don't accept Catholics but don't cry I'm sure you'll find some nasty little

racist organisation in Poland or wherever you are living!


Good for you, I hope that the Polish men you meet will be much nicer than Mr Nationalist there!

Love / What differences is there among Polish girls and British girls as girlfriends? [102]


I understand what you are saying but the guy in question is just sleezing and getting off on the argument between yourself and Dominika, just read his comments the man needs a slap!!!

Love / What differences is there among Polish girls and British girls as girlfriends? [102]

I don't think any of you should be dicussing your privates! I only just read the other ladies' contribution! Neither of you are promoting a good image for Polish women at the moment!!

Love / What differences is there among Polish girls and British girls as girlfriends? [102]


No it certainly doesn't!
Obviously it may be accidental but some of your comments come across as being geared to attracting male attention, especially given the sleezebag remarks of some t-sser who calls himself English, you are only inflaming his pathetic ardour!

Love / What differences is there among Polish girls and British girls as girlfriends? [102]

Englishman

Women aren't here for your personal pleasure, your comments are really sleezey! If you must make them at least change your forum name, most English people don't want to be associated with pervs!

Dominika99

Get some self respect girl. Discussing your pubes on a public forum is not classy and only strengthens the stereotype of Polish women doing anything to please men, especially when you make really

b-tchy comments to women who disagree with you!!!!

Love / Why don't Polish women treat education seriously for themselves? [130]

Hate to admit this ( socially I much prefer the company of women ) but you are correct!!!!
All women companies, schools, labs etc... are not very efficient!!!
Many women have too much going on in their lives to be really focussed on the majority of jobs.
It's nobody's fault, just the way it is and hormones just reinforce this!!

Love / Why don't Polish women treat education seriously for themselves? [130]

delphiandomine
I don't think we are going to agree on many if any of these points. The new Scottish Curriculum for Excellence will be very interesting, the Scots do seem to do education far better than the English and Welsh!

Love / Why don't Polish women treat education seriously for themselves? [130]


Given the relatively low wages and increasing cost of living, i think it is, also there is still some stigma to being single.


Possibly, I don't know enough about 'early years' education to debate that one


I disagree, there is not enough emphasis on understanding concepts in Poland, not really enough in England either


That's great, I suspect you may mix with women in the field of education. I stand corrected if I am wrong!
Of all the Polish women I know in the UK and Poland ( a very large number) I only know two who study for interest alone and a few who are learning languages or It skills for work.


Unfortunately, it's a problem in the UK and other countries too !

Love / Why don't Polish women treat education seriously for themselves? [130]

I'm pleased that you and your friends don't fit this description, I have met many who do though.
I don't think this applies to Poland alone, all too many women are beginning to value their appearance/ability to attract men above other qualities!

Look at the rise in cosmetic surgery, the expansion of the fashion and 'beauty' industry, the rise of eating disorders.
It's really hard to find women's magazines with decent articles, the glut of 'chick lit' books on the shelves of libraries/ book shops, it drags women down.

Most women do not have below average IQ's but society cons them into thinking they have to 'buy' into this female image stuff, we all have to be 'kobiecy'. It's a load of rubbish.

Love / Why don't Polish women treat education seriously for themselves? [130]

Why don't Polish women treat education seriously for themselves?
Loads of reasons!
The Polish education system is based mainly on 'rote learning' which doesn't really inspire deep thinking or understanding or even that much real interest.

Very often degrees are seen as a means to a job rather than a chance to learn a subject in depth.
There are problems with cheating in the Polish system ( also with other countries as well).
Polish women are often encouraged to value themselves for their appearance rather than their intellect.
Quite a few Poles seem to think a woman who shows any great intellect is 'unfeminine'.
They are also considered to be failures if they don't have a man, possibly because it is often an economic necessity in Poland.
All in all, there are plenty of Polish females with degrees but few are actively encouraged have a real love of knowledge or to carry on learning after their 'certified education' is complete, which is why they may give the impression of not taking education seriously.


Not of real knowledge.
I also agree that there are far too many 'silly' degrees about, it's a waste of money.
What we do need is proper training for jobs i.e. proper apprenticeships ,
decent training for nurses etc where they are taught what real nursing care is.
People assume because some one hasn't got a degree they are thick, that's rubbish!
Most people are as intelligent as they want to be, you can learn all your life if you want to.

Law / Child Alimony in Poland - 1700 PLN? [74]

I know a few of these blue eyed boys too!!!!
You and Pip are spot on, it's the man not the colour that matters!!!!

Law / Child Alimony in Poland - 1700 PLN? [74]

If the woman is working give her about 1400 PLN , this should cover her rent and childcare, save the other 300 in an account for extra things the child may need. This would be fair because the woman herself should be prepared to spend money on the child too. It does take two to make a child.

If the the woman refuses to work, pay the rent, utilities , food and have a clothing allowance for the child this should be around 1300PLN again save the rest of the money for extras!

Get the DNA test done, make sure you have access visits and take responsibility for contraception next time!