Life / Polish pride. PL stickers, flags and the white eagle! Where does our obsession come from? [79]


I guess it has sth to do with their history. PL has been abused many times throughout her history, enjoyed only 20-odd years of independence after having disappeared from the map, before embarking on 50 years of foreign occupation by first the Nazis, then the Commies. Now that they are finally independent (which is coincidentally at this moment about the same length as the period before they went yoked under some form of totalitarian régime, be this National Socialism or Communism), they will show that they are. It's common for ppl who have suffered under foreign occupation for extended lengths of time to boost their national identity when this situation has been removed and they are free. It's not typically a Polish thing, other countries had/have it too, look at the US, they still are eerily show their pride of being American with regards to the flag and anthem. It will fade over time, but for now, and probably the next generation, albeit it a bit lesser than the current one, you will see this quite often. I'd say in about 100 years from now it will have virtually disappeared, assuming Poland will stay free and independent.

Hope this helps, Kangaroo.

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M-G (tiens)

Life / Any treatment centres for homos in Poland? [455]

How about shock-treatment? :) I know a few Slavs that would be eligible for that :)

News / Weekend of carnage as 41 people lose their lives on Poland's roads [44]

How about drink-driving? I assume this is illegal in Poland too, but in NL Polish men seem to think it's legal and do this quite often, if I may believe the newspapers - nearly every weekend, according to those newspapers, multiple Polish drivers are being stopped and arrested for being drunk behind the wheel. Last weekend a guy was arrested for driving with about 10 times the allowed of alcohol in his blood. And this was not the first time that sb who could barely stand on his own two feet is being caught behind the wheel. It seems to get such a problem that police in NL is actually setting up teams specifically to check on Polish drivers. Drink-driving is one of the bigger offences one can make in NL while partaking in traffic. Is this a problem in Poland too?

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M-G (tiens)

Life / Any treatment centres for homos in Poland? [455]

I always wondered how come that the same guys who like to penetrate a girl in her arse condemn homosexuals for doing the same :)

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M-G (tiens)

Travel / My (short) Poland experiences - bad luck? [142]


Theo, wir fahr'n nach Lodz (Vicky Leandros)

Theo, wir fahr'n nach Lodz.
Theo, wir fahr'n nach Lodz.
Steh auf, Du altes Murmeltier,
Bevor ich die Geduld verlier.
Theo, wir fahr'n nach Lodz.
Theo, wir fahr'n nach Lodz.
Ich habe diese Landluft satt,
Will endlich wieder in die Stadt.
Theo, wir fahr'n nach Lodz.
Gott verlaß'nes Dorf, nur Heu und Dorf.
Stets der gleiche Trott, nur Hü und Hott.
Im Stall die Kuh macht muh,
Die Hähne krähen dazu.
Das hält keiner aus, ich hier raus.
Theo, wir fahr'n nach Lodz.
Theo, wir fahr'n nach Lodz
Da packen wir das Glück beim Schopf
Und hauen alles auf den Kopf.
Theo, wir fahr'n nach Lodz.
Diese verdammte Nest, gibt mir den Rest.
Ich fühl mich zu jung für Mist und Dunk -
Ich brauch' Musik und Tanz und etwas Eleganz.
Gib Dir einen Stoß und dann geht's los.
Theo, wir fahr'n nach Lodz.
Dann feiern wir ein großes Fest,
Das uns die Welt vergessen läßt.
Theo, wir fahr'n nach Lodz.
Dann kann ich leben, dann bin ich frei -
Und die Liebe ist mit dabei.
Theo, wir fahr'n nach Lodz.
Komm' mit, die Pferde warten schon,
Steig' ein und sei mein Postillion.
Theo, wir fahr'n nach Lodz.

:) Who said there weren't any German songs about Polish cities? :) Ok, she is Greek, but that doesn't matter.

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M-G (tiens)

Life / How can Polish immigrants complain about other immigrants? [65]


Oh really? And this:


would not be deemed a personal remark?


As I remember, I wiped you repeatedly under the table, at least enough times for you to keep coming back at it; none of you had any credible points, so...Pls stop being so arrogant, you have no reason to be arrogant at all, given the way I buried you several times :)

Pls don't reflect your own revanchistic character upon sb else. It would suit you better. You've been like this from the start - as many could see on here.

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M-G (tiens)

Life / How can Polish immigrants complain about other immigrants? [65]

If so, it would be highly surprising, given the fact that my nick is mentioned several times. If I would start a topic based on what sb else mentioned any time earlier, I would've said "sb mentioned this or that". That would be the most apropriate way to do this. Now it has the shine of what I mentioned in my previous post all over it.

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M-G (tiens)

Life / How can Polish immigrants complain about other immigrants? [65]

Bzibi is just out for retribution as she can't stand to lose all of the time and having to revert to verbal violence, like the Topic Starter. They both should be embarrassed to bits for reverting to such low practices.

Anyway, here in Ireland Polish immigrants are complaining about other, non-European immigrants on several occasions I have personally witnessed this. I am a foreigner as well in the country where I live, but I don't complain about others who are same. They're in the same boat as I am and faced the same issues I faced at the start.

But you're right, this thread is just intended by nott and Bzibioh to get back at me personally, and I will ask the mods to close this thread for two reasons: first of all, this topic has been conducted and discussed many times before on this forum and secondly, in referral to forum rule #2 and #8.

So, I don't know which one of the moderators is present at the time, but I would like to ask him/her to close this thread based on forum rule #2 and #8 and because of the fact that this thread is solely intended for personal gratification and retributtal purposes of some forum members.

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M-G (some ppl are really childish)

Life / Any treatment centres for homos in Poland? [455]


Unfortunately there are too many of those kind of individuals here. P3 is actually a mild one, even. There are much worse on here.

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M-G (tiens)

Life / Any treatment centres for homos in Poland? [455]


Freedom of speech, but within reason.


So is mine.

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M-G (tiens)

Life / Any treatment centres for homos in Poland? [455]

Trust me, the other way around happens also. The more if there are ppl having some sort of trouble with gay ppl.
When I am with my gay friends, I make jokes about them, like saying to them when they talk about sth typical: "oh, you guys are such fairies!" or "oh, that is so gay!" :) And they never mind it as they know I accept them fully and completely. Come to think of it, the other day, I was at the birthday party of a girl I know and some of her gay friends were there and one of them was Polish. So there are Polish gays after all :D

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M-G (tiens)

Life / Any treatment centres for homos in Poland? [455]


I think we should be able to talk about them. But as normal human beings, not as some poor sick individual, which will heal if given the right treatment. I am sure my friends don't mind talking about it. But then again, wouldn't you find it very boring and annoying if you were gay and at every freaking party ppl step up to you and want to talk to you about your sexual orientation? Suppose a gay person comes across you and starts talking the whole godgiven time about the fact that you're straight? I at least would find that a huge nuisance after a while, wouldn't you agree?

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M-G (taboos are there to be broken, long live the brave new and free world)

Life / Any treatment centres for homos in Poland? [455]


Maybe some ppl, like myself, have a lot of gay friends and they're the nicest ppl one can know. They haven't bothered anybody, but that's not the point. They are my friends and I won't let some bigot with skewed views on the topic insult them when they have done nothing that could pssbly insult them. And besides, it's a blatant insult to ppl who are "different", when it shouldn't matter at all. It's also about freedom and the rejection of anything that discriminates others.

Edit: oh, and I am most definitively not gay. I just don't care if sb else is. It really doesn't bother me.

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M-G (but other ppl may have other reasons why they are offended)

Love / The age of consent in Poland is only 15 [147]

Thread attached on merging:
age of consent


I'm not one to wave the moral sword. If the legal age in PL to have sexual relations is 15 and this girl is fifteen, then I see no problem from a legal standpoint.

Other thing is of course the age-difference. You didn't mention his age, but I take it he is much older than she is. If it works out, it's fine with me, but experience tells us that usually those relations don't last long as both ppl are in very different stages of life, especially the younger you get.

For example: the age difference between a 21-year old with a 16-year old is much and much bigger than the difference between a 34-year old and a 40-year old, while both gaps are six years. This is explained by the fact that everybody is pretty much full grown, physically and mentally around their 25th. So if you have a 40-year old, that person is equally full grown mentally and physically than a 15 year old with a 21 year old. The 21 year old is nearing completion of the getting fully grown process, while the 15 year old still has a long way to go.

Another story is the generation gap. A 50 year old could, according to the above rule be very well with a 26 year old, physically and mentally speaking. However, the 50 year old has much more life experience than the 26 year old, so that will collide some time and this is unavoidable. Exceptions do happen, but it's more the rule that it goes wrong. Some say the best difference is about 5 years - after your 25th, that is, others say 3 to 10 years; it's not really clear what works best, guess it mostly depends on compatibility.

So in short, I don't really care if they are a couple :)

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M-G (tiens)

Life / Any treatment centres for homos in Poland? [455]


You might very well be. You're 26, I seem to remember, right? That means that for the biggest part of your life you grew up in freedom. Must leave its traces :)

But you have a good point there anyway, I have, and Seanus most likely can confirm this, said many times that it just takes a generation (or two) before Poland starts embracing modern ideas and liberal attitudes towards issues like homosexuality. You are a good example of that :)

Edit:


Not entirely true, Seanus, she got sentenced last week. Can't remember how much, but she was. If you're referring to that singer in Germany, she witheld to her sexual partners that she had AIDS or was Seropositive.

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M-G (so, now I've done my kissing off with ZY, can I go home now? You promised I could if I did!)

Life / Any treatment centres for homos in Poland? [455]


I second that. They just pushed a little too far in this case. But there are other issues underlying, not only their Lesbianism. Also the emancipation of women, conquering a place in society and other issues are integrated in this. Of course it can be annoying when you hear some woman speak in the name of all women, but you have to understand that this is just symbolism, not literally meant that way. And after all, if there is a hiatus in any right that a woman may or may not have, every woman will benefit when this hiatus gets taken away. So in that sense they are right, but indeed, they sometimes push it a bit too far.

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M-G (after all, 8 March is international Women's day - guess who introduced that?)

Life / Any treatment centres for homos in Poland? [455]


Homosexuality is NOT a choice. If a child doesn't have the constellation to become a homosexual, it won't become one, no matter if it's solely surrounded by gay men. Pls stop fuelling the witch hunt any further. Homosexuality is an accepted orientation and after all, when it comes to absolute figures, society is more harmed by frustrated heterosexual men (rapists, child abusers, troublemakers and so on) than by homosexual men. At least, I have never seen a gay man start a fight. And I know a lot of homosexuals, they're good and decent ppl and will never force their sexuality upon anybody else, which cannot be said of young heterosexual men and their attitude towards girls. Just go and ask any girl in a nightclub how many times she has been harrassed by a guy. Probably more than once during any given night she went out to have some fun with friends. I've seen gay men fighting yes, but only to defend themselves after being attacked by those Great Glorious Heterosexual men who wanted to make a stand in front of their friends by beating up a homo. Well, that was the plan at least; the homosexual man beat the crap out of him :))

I always love it when that happens.

Edit: however, what will happen when a kid is surrounded by gay men is that it will develop a natural tolerance for these ppl. So in that sense it's to be cheered that kids are confronted with this form of orientation in an early stage. Maybe in due time this will eliminate the presence of gay-bashers and other violence towards homosexuals.


I would advise you to do the same. They have never harmed you in any way, you probably don't know any homo, so let them be in peace too.

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M-G (is looking forward to view at least part of the 3 hour film tonight)

Life / Any treatment centres for homos in Poland? [455]


Will you pls stop writing screaming nonsense like this?


How is that pssbl? Everybody knows that there are no homos in Poland. :)


My my, aren't we a bit nosey today? :)

It's international relations/political/historical material, but I cannot say anything about it because I didn't have a look at it yet. My attention was immediately drawn to this silly thread opened by a known homophobe.


Conveniently forgot, I would say. Anyway, the founders of that "party" cannot claim to have a large following at all, au contraire, they get beaten up regularily and sued the crap out of them.

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M-G (It's time I start making a list)

Life / Any treatment centres for homos in Poland? [455]


If you're referring to the paedophile party, that party has been deemed illegal and is being prosecuted to their thethers. Amsterdam does NOT promote paedophiliae. Don't write such ridiculous nonsense anymore, will ya?

And I do agree with Seanus, this thread is offensive and discriminating towards Homosexuals and limits their freedom, it should therefore be closed.

Btw, Thank you, Seanus for the materials! I will have a look at it later on, after dinner.

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M-G (let's bash the bashers)

UK, Ireland / Britain's youngest mum gave birth at 12 [70]


Isn't that also the name of the town ravaged by vampires in "30 Days of Night"?

Anyway, it may be just me, but I don't think that 12-year old children should have sex. What's wrong with doing normal child's stuff when you're at that age? I mean, friends of ppl I know gave their 12-year old son condoms to take with him to a children's party. I really don't think that's normal...

Unfortunately it's always the same type of ppl to whom this happens. I read a study the other day in the newspaper that said that about 50 per cent of the kids younger than 16 had sex before they even properly had kissed and that it was noticable that this was by far more often the case in lower social classes than with other classes.

And then you see a picture of the mom - somehow they all look the same: fat, kinda ugly girls with flat, greasy hair, face full of pickles; apparently somehow stalled for attention (at that age?) and giving themselves to any guy who blinks as much as an eye at them. I am not moralistic, but I think here lies a task for the parents as I hold them responsible for this skewed behaviour.

And besides all that: who's gonna take care of the baby? The mother obviously can't as she's a kid herself and has no clue yet about responsibility - this baby is going to grow up as yet another no-future and if it's a baby girl, probably get pregnant too before she reaches the tender age of 14.

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M-G (tiens)

Love / In Poland - guys opinion about brazilian girls [21]


It was a 5-year project in which he asked every Polish girl whether they liked Brazilian Bikinis or not. He started it in Spring 2005 and got his results rounded up just now, proudly presenting it to the community on PF: Polish girls don't like Brazilian Bikinis!

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M-G (has spent nearly 3 hrs on the phone)

History / Dutchmen in Polish history ! [17]

Well, everybody has his place in history :)))))

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M-G (but besides, Dutch specialised in Black African Slaves, not in Polish Slaves)

News / When money dies,blame the Poles. [32]


True, that's why they pumped so much money in their respective banks, because otherwise a lot more ppl would get bancrupt.

Wonder when we will get out of the crisis - when the banks are fully state-controlled or when ppl learn how to tame their greed and lust for things they actually can't afford?

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M-G (tiens)

UK, Ireland / Too many Poles in UK? [52]


A sticky PC is responsible for 6 grammar errors in one sentence? Hm. Anyway, BNP are a bunch of slimeballs who try to compensate for their own impotence by hating other ppl. You have to do sth to make your lousy life worthwhile, eh?

But in regards to the topic. There are not too many Poles, there are too many ppl. Way too many. It's time for a big bleeding war or a big pandemic to thin the amount of ppl a bit. When you get a lot of ppl, you get nonsense like extreme right-wing groups, fascists and so on.

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M-G (darn those idiots)

Off-Topic / PF - The Omnibus Edition [1502]

The good thing about Irish summers is that you can be sure to catch at least one cold.

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M-G (24th of August and I have to put on a sweater as it's so darn chilly already)

Off-Topic / Übertough Pole with bullet in his head [16]


That was actually a girl from Moskou, who got mugged on the way home. She thought she got away easily until she got home and her parents saw a knife sticking out of her neck. Thiis happened not that long ago, less than a year, I think. It was in the newspapers.

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M-G (or how about that story of a granddad whom doctors discovered he had an old German bullet in his body since WW2 - I forget were it actually was, but it had been there for 50 years or so)

News / Anger after Poland left out of EU ambassador team [38]


If it's anybody who are discriminated within the EU it's the citizens of the BeNeLux. Paying the most, yet receiving hardly anything in return and being blocked out by the big countries when it comes to making decisions. Nobody else is being discriminated more in the EU than them.

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M-G (no wonder the EU isn't that popular anymore in BeNeLux - off to bed now)

News / Anger after Poland left out of EU ambassador team [38]

Here's a chart of which country pays the most and who receives the most:

As a country Germany pays the most, followed by the UK and, remarkably, the Netherlands in 3rd place, a country with only a quarter of the British or German population. On the other hand, Greece receives the most, followed by Poland and, also remarkably, Spain.

So per capita the Benelux is the greatest contributor, per country DE, UK and NL are the biggest contributors while HL, PL and ES are the biggest receivers.

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M-G (off to bed)

News / Anger after Poland left out of EU ambassador team [38]


If you stop talking nonsense, I will become milder towards you. Go find yourself a Serbian forum.


So what'd you think how big are the odds that given the current situation a Slavic Union of all these poor, unlucky countries will be successful?

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M-G (tiens)

News / Anger after Poland left out of EU ambassador team [38]


Yes - what would you have? A bunch of countries too poor to scratch their own arses and then they come begging at the EU for money as they won't make it othewise. I think all of those countries are happy where they are right now.

I know it's a free Internet world, but could we pls have to read less of this everlasting glorious nonsense? Would make reading a lot more pleasant. Thank you.


Yeah, let's talk some more of events that happened a couple of hundred years ago, and let's pretend they're relevant for the current situation.


I think the Croats, Macedonians and Slovenes would beg to differ with you on this one.

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M-G (too busy to worry)