Life / Could Poland become an immigrant country? [42]


Good luck with that, because the immigrants don't need Polish. Just look at the Algerian or Turkish ghettos in Paris or Berlin. Third or even fourth generation immigrants, and they still don't speak the local language properly. They don't need to find jobs outside their neighborhoods because they are hired by their fellow ethnic Algerians or Turks. Simple as that, and the ghettos are a breeding ground for crime.

Genealogy / Baranowo Parish Records after 1902 [14]

As a starter (I know there's nothing after 1902):

Groom: Jozef Panus, 19 yrs, b. Adamczycha, Parish of Baranowo, s/o Walenty & Franciszka Kaczynski
Date: 6 July 1896, Baranowo
Bride: Rozalia Gaska, 18 yrs, b. Orzel, Parish of Baranowo, d/o Pawel & Maryanna Gacioch

Groom: Jozef Panus, 28 yrs, b. Bakula, Parish of Baranowo, s/o Stanislaw & Rozalia Baczek
Date: 21 July 1901, Baranowo
Bride: Maryanna Tabaka, 30 yrs, b. Baranowo, d/o Pawel & Marcyanna Kuzia

rootsweb.ancestry.com/~polwgw/archives/baranmar6.html (Marriages 1855 - 1902)

Baronowo cemetery: rootsweb.ancestry.com/~polwgw/archives/barancem.html

Genealogy / Baranowo Parish Records after 1902 [14]

Couple of questions:

- which Baranowo? en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baranowo
- catholic, protestant or Jewish?
- what family name?

Life / Could Poland become an immigrant country? [42]


Because even the poorest, most backward place in Poland is a paradise compared to some of the hellholes those migrants come from?

History / How I blew a 6 figure grant for my charity because of my appreciation of Polish history... [77]


Come on, Wroclaw, discussions never stay 100% on topic, and it was just a short and friendly conversation between Paulina and me.


Will do.

History / How I blew a 6 figure grant for my charity because of my appreciation of Polish history... [77]


Ha ha ha. That's why I wrote "Just this paragraph" ... :)


To be honest, I browsed just quickly through the article specifically looking for the words 'mass rape'. Seven pages of that horrific stuff is a little too much for me early in the morning.

History / How I blew a 6 figure grant for my charity because of my appreciation of Polish history... [77]

Paulina, I couldn't find anything about mass rape in the source you've mentioned. Just this paragraph:

Quote:
"While accounts of mass rape provoked at most a mild rebuke from their conversation partners, a number of soldiers clearly still felt that the sexual violence at times reached a limit which should be respected, even in the locker-room environment of the POW camp."


That was probably one factor, plus the fact that violence against civilians - and here especially women (Russian, Polish and German mainly) - was tolerated by the Soviet leadership for far too long.

History / How I blew a 6 figure grant for my charity because of my appreciation of Polish history... [77]


I'd like to see a reliable source for that. So far only Soviet and Japanese forces were accused of mass rape, the Wehrmacht AFAIK never. There were cases of rape, of course, but not even close to the extent the Soviets or Japanese committed.

History / For what the Germans owe Poland one trillion U.S. dollars? [299]


IMO, it's up the the Polish voter to destroy such a system of cronyism in elections.

History / For what the Germans owe Poland one trillion U.S. dollars? [299]


Sooner or later, the old commies will die off and many of the Poles who currently work abroad will return home with fresh ideas and money. I believe that that's the time when Poland will change significantly and have the chance to show its real potential. Hopefully...


Well, wishful thinking doesn't really help, does it? The reality is that economically and politically, Poland is (currently) not important in Europe or on the world stage. Why claim something else? It takes time to change that.

History / For what the Germans owe Poland one trillion U.S. dollars? [299]

Maybe a little bit, but you tell me in what field I underestimate Poland. If you've ever lived in Europe, you would know that most people in the west still equate Poland with Romania or Bulgaria, and not with Spain or Italy (and definitely not with Britain, France or Germany). At the moment, the country is a provider of cheap and educated labor for the economic powerhouses of the world, and as such it has no economic or political punch whatsoever. Meathead said Poland should show some leadership, but leading whom if no one really cares what you have to say or doesn't take you serious? Give Poland some time. Maybe in 20/30 years the country can take over a more prominent role in Europe, but not now.

History / For what the Germans owe Poland one trillion U.S. dollars? [299]


You completely overestimate the importance of Poland (economically and politically) within Europe.


You mean 'outlandish claim' - made by some nutjob politicians in Poland.

Life / Hey, Poland, how about a little infrastructure? [11]


The last one out turns off the light...

History / For what the Germans owe Poland one trillion U.S. dollars? [299]


Don't play stupid, man. If you don't understand that it is a waste of time to explain the international obligations of Poland to a bunch of PiS faschos, then you are much more ignorant than I thought.


You are talking to the wrong guy, sledz. I agree with you 100% - this whole thread is a bad joke.

History / For what the Germans owe Poland one trillion U.S. dollars? [299]


Why don't you study the agreements of the Two Plus Four Conference instead? And while you're at it, also read about the 1953 treaty between Poland and the GDR, and the Warsaw Treaty of 1970. WW2 is over, get used to it.

History / For what the Germans owe Poland one trillion U.S. dollars? [299]


All this talk about reparations is pure nonsense and helps no one.

Quote: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_reparations_for_World_War_II#Poland
"In 2004 the Polish and German governments declared the issue settled."

History / For what the Germans owe Poland one trillion U.S. dollars? [299]


Tell me more about the poor Polish slaves who had to work in the sugar cane and cotton fields of their Prussian and Russian masters.

History / For what the Germans owe Poland one trillion U.S. dollars? [299]


I demand that Poland pays at least one trillion dollars to Russia, Austria and Germany for all the assets that ended up in its hands after WW1... ;)

Genealogy / Help required 1910 birth certicate (Golasiewicz) [6]

Why complicated? The baptism record for Jozef Golasiewicz is on film number 2065067, Item 1. You order that film in your local family history centre, and once it has been delivered from Salt Lake City, you are able to take a copy of the original churchbook entry. The latter will usually give you the name of the parents, name of witnesses, time and place of birth, and some other information. Once you know the name of the parents you can go back approx. 20 years (depending on whether Jozef was the first child of the couple or not) and look for their marriage record. That one should either be on film number 2065067, Items 2 - 3, or film number 948568 - provided that the bride came from the same parish as the groom. The marriage record gives you the names of the spouse's parents, and you can go from there.

You can find your nearest family history center here: familysearch.org/locations

Quickly searched for the civil registration records for Proskau. It seems the ones that are relevant for your research were destroyed during the war, as the state archive in Opole (which is in charge here) has only the records from 1874 through 1904 on file.

genforum.genealogy.com/poland/messages/40164.html

EDIT: In the previous message I wrote 'go back 20 years'. That's of course wrong. It must read 'one year or more'. 20 years would be for the grandparent of Jozef.

Genealogy / Help required 1910 birth certicate (Golasiewicz) [6]

I just checked the LDS database. They have the catholic church books for 1757 through 1958, so you could order the relevant microfilms in your local family history center. Regarding the civil registration records, you will need to find out in which state archive they are available.

familysearch.org/search/catalog/304789

News / Poland's population on the rise [24]

Increased death rate and increased emigration where Poles give up their passports. First one is unlikely, the second one I don't know - at least not for the time before 1989. Do you know whether Poland counts its expats which are still Polish citizens but have lived abroad for an extended period of time?

News / Poland's population on the rise [24]

Something is not quite right here. If there was a baby boom over the course of several years, the overall demographic chart should show a spike, but it doesn't.

News / Poland's population on the rise [24]

I don't see a baby boom in that curve; just a constant growth of the population.

Anyway, I would be interested in some statistics that doesn't include the Poles who are living abroad at the moment. Would we still see a population growth at home?

News / Poland's population on the rise [24]


When? Since 1995 the population seems to be decreasing: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Poland-demography.png

Genealogy / Help required 1910 birth certicate (Golasiewicz) [6]


Search for the civil registration records of Proskau. If they survived the war it's easy to obtain them. Either via the LDS or one of the Polish archives.

Life / Do Polish people like Turkish people? [66]


Sure... :)


Why don't we send all those noble Turks/ Kurds from western Europe over to Poland then? Do you actually have an idea how many problems the Turkish population of Europe is causing in their host countries?

News / Poland's population on the rise [24]


Increasing wealth and women having their own career are usually factors that are responsible for postponing parenthood and a low birth rate. Must be something else in Poland - my guess would be religious reasons or favoring a more traditional lifestyle compared to the west.

Life / Grass is always greener? Poland experience. [69]


They deserve the money? Based on what? WW2 and the commie era? Playing the world's saddest song on the world's smallest violin... . As if anybody outside of Poland cares - and I don't mean that in a derogatory way.


Then don't take the money/ investments, and let's see what happens.

History / WWII - who really was the first to help Poland? [900]


Google 'Gallipoli, Churchill, war crime' and see what others have to say about this man... ;)

Genealogy / Gracyasz - can't find anything on family name or history [12]

Quick search for Michal Gracyasz on the LDS web site:

Source: "United States, World War I Draft Registration Cards, 1917-1918"

Mike Gracyasz
birth date: 01 Aug 1891
birth place: Nowytark, , Austria

Any connection? If yes, Nowytark (Nowy Targ, Neumarkt) might be the place to look for your ancestors.