News / How will BREXIT affect the immigrants in UK and Poland. [1114]


So... it's the native British population's fault?

My point was that if something doesn't directly affect EU elites (or their supporters like cms) they assume it doesn't affect anyone or that it's the fault of those affected and not bad policy decision by elites.

News / How will BREXIT affect the immigrants in UK and Poland. [1114]


Tell that to the good people of Rotherham....

News / How will BREXIT affect the immigrants in UK and Poland. [1114]


And the remain campaign was almost entirely about money which alienated many people.


Can you find a quote where she said she admitted she had a poor solution to an existing problem? How did they end up in Germany? Magic?


first, then why are they in Germany rather than the UK?,

second, cry me a river. afghan, syrian and iraqi 'refugees' who are young men of fighting age need to join what they think is the least bad side and try to improve their countries (crapholes the lot of them) rather than expect Europe to feed them, if there are no bad sides then they should abjure their rotten cultures and do their best to assimilate in every way possible to their new environment.

If the English had their attitude at Dunkirk you'd be writing here in German.

News / Polish-German Reconcilliation Seminar [491]


a. Nic o nas bez nas (this was a decision taken without the consultation of most other countries or her own population for that matter). asking for help after the fact is disingenuous

b. no muslim minority in any European country contributes more to the country in taxes and economic activity than it receives in services of various kinds, why should anyone expect the merkeljugend to be any different?

News / US Investor seeks 700 million dollars in damages from Poland [45]


the party leader has already explained he'd rather a poorer Poland under his sphere of influence than a richer Poland outside it.

News / Polish-German Reconcilliation Seminar [491]


Of course there are no 1000 lawyers working on this (though I'm sure taxpayers will be billed for their services). The inevitable failure will be used to stir up more anti-German feeling. PiS cannot stand the idea of a Polish population that is not always angry at and afraid of its neighbors so all their international efforts are aimed at sewing discord and digging up pasts that should be left behind.

News / Polish-German Reconcilliation Seminar [491]


What do you call between a fourth and a third of present day Poland?


So are you.... do you live here? pay taxes here?


three words, rule of law, Poland has de jure and de facto acceptecd the status quo, going back on that makes Poland look like a nation of shady characters out to squeeze what they can (so they won't have to work?) I don't want to live in a country full of people drooling at the idea of collecting haracz based on old grudges

Again, i'm fine with individuals pursuing action against the German government but Poland going after money is just cheap and tawdry and nasty

News / Polish-German Reconcilliation Seminar [491]

Okay, let's assume that Germany paid reparations. How would it be possible to guarantee that some later Polish government wouldn't say it wasn't enough and demand more?

Can PiS guarantee that Can PiS guarantee it wouldn't be back after a year or two to demand more?
What would it take for Poland to declare the issue irrevocably finished cause without such a guarantee there's no reason to talk at all.

Life / Boring Life after work in Poland (Bydgoszcz) [29]


Maybe she wanted you to talk dirty to her....

News / Polish-German Reconcilliation Seminar [491]


In other words, you're not interested in debate, you're just trying to make people agree with you or shut up. What. A. Commie. You. Are.

And what guarantee is there that if, by some miracle, Germany paid reparations now that some later Polish government would say it wasn't enough and demand more? Can you or PiS guarantee that? If not then the issue is a non-starter.


Whaaaaaaat? He's claiming to be 30? I assumed, from the tone of his writing, that he was an angry teenager.

News / Polish-German Reconcilliation Seminar [491]


Weird fantasy that has nothing to do with reality.


irrelevant, you can't open up one can of worms without opening up others.

News / Polish-German Reconcilliation Seminar [491]


I'm okay with individuals pursuing cases, but pursuing this at the state level makes Poland like a grifter blackmail country which cannot be trusted to keep its word. That's a good description of PiS (Kaczyński is notorious for backing out of deals and wanting to renegotiate before the ink is dry) but it's no way to run a European country (it's standard operating procedure for the third world).

And what did you suffer? You wouldn't have roots in Breslau without the border adjustments (which were punitive rather than corrective in nature).

News / Polish-German Reconcilliation Seminar [491]


So? your claim is that reparations were settled by others and not Poland. You can't open up one without the other, Poland gets a trillion euros and Germany gets Breslau back. Deal?

News / Polish-German Reconcilliation Seminar [491]


including long after all involved are dead.... this does not make poland look good or honorable international, a nation of oathbreakers!

there's no way to reopen reparations without reopening the border issue, do you want to return to Wrocław or Breslau?

Language / Inanimate vs animate nouns in Polish language [16]


That's the approach I like, but Polish linguists are more into merging them into five genders based on singular and plural taken together... I know... yech

masculine-virielle on oni
masculine-animate (including facultative animates) on one
masculin-inanimate on one
feminine - ona one
neuter - ono one

News / Polish-German Reconcilliation Seminar [491]


That does not jibe with my experience at all. The general pattern with Germans (and Russians and some other groups) is to dislike them at the group level mostly for historical reasons but to not have much or any problems at the personal level (certainly no more than they have with each other).

In the far west of Poland, there is stronger dislike and a strange moral apathy about stealing from Germans (juma was widely tolerated by supposedly good Catholic Poles who were willing to skip over the whole 'thou shalt not steal' commandment).

News / Polish-German Reconcilliation Seminar [491]


Actually, it's a lot more likely they were just helping Merkel's kabuki theater by agreeing to 'resettle' a small number of migrants who would, almost immediatley, return to Germany. The likelihood of more than a tiny handful staying was never realistic. that doesn't mean I approved of phony acceptance of phony 'refugees' but it's not like they were agitating for large scale migration.

And if you were actually living in Poland you're realize that the PiS government is doing nothing from preventing doubtful students and employees from showing up from South Asia and the middle east. They're just complicit in fleecing them which reduces their moral highground by a considerable degree.

News / Polish-German Reconcilliation Seminar [491]


Absolutely. It's their signature - and presumably allows for lots of pocket lining that their supporters are happy to know-no-evil about....


They're not interested in effective governance - it's TKM all the way down. _AND_ it's their way of making excuses, it's not our fault it's those terrible people before us! Some of the more gullible/buyable fall for it.


That is _exactly_ the impression they're trying to create to discourage foreign investment and foreign oversight.

It's not a bug of PiS governance i'ts the defining feature - turn other countries against Poland so people liable to oppose them leave and those left are more pliable and ready to accept the next shoveful of manure and call it chocolate.

News / Polish-German Reconcilliation Seminar [491]


Provocation: Germany owes Poland nothing. It might owe individual Polish people something but at the state level there is no legal or ethical reason for pursuing reparations.

Debate!

Life / Boring Life after work in Poland (Bydgoszcz) [29]


It's called..ALCOHOL!!!!

In a more serious vein, how good is your Polish? it shouldn't be that hard to find clubs or groups that you might enjoy joining.

Look around older housing estates and you might see something that looks like this



there will probably be notice of different clubs (sometimes excursions) it might be a way to get to meet people and better integrate into the community.

News / Polish-German Reconcilliation Seminar [491]


The idea that only those with particular view (which just happen to be those of the Party) are 'real' Poles is straight out of the PRL

News / Polish-German Reconcilliation Seminar [491]


And... if they can get the language down foreigners have a much easier integrating into Polish life than outsiders do in many European countries. That might change if the numbers get too big but for the time being it's an under-appreciated asset.

News / Polish-German Reconcilliation Seminar [491]


Well I guess living in Poland (unlike some people I could name.....) I don't know any Poles that would meet your high standards... apologies.

News / Polish-German Reconcilliation Seminar [491]


People that have experience both say that structurally and operationally PiS is essentially a neo-PRL with a different political ideology but the same model of rule by the party leader (and patronage and corruption)

News / Polish-German Reconcilliation Seminar [491]


To be isolated and despised and dependent on favors from the party leader? What a weird weird ambition....

News / Polish-German Reconcilliation Seminar [491]


This is exactly what PiS (or JK) wants. He wants Polish people to be isolated and look to him and PiS and AM for protection.

News / Polish-German Reconcilliation Seminar [491]


From PiS's point of view reparations are like abortion and sunday shopping, a useful device to distract the public and/or get them riled up. And it always works.

If by some weird happenstance reparations were paid, I assume a lot of it would end up in private bank accounts (or envelopes from foresters' daughters)

When I hear PiSi talk about reparations I hear: "Dance little monkeys! Dance!"

News / Polish-German Reconcilliation Seminar [491]


yes


they were also more interested in getting Germany to accept the current western border of Poland. If reparations are on the table then why not borders?

News / Poland - Ukraine. Młodzież Wszechpolska against Ukrainians. [180]


Which is why they're constantly saying that Ukrainians trying to escape being a Russian vassal state (just like Poland did) are nazis, it's the oldest trick in the book - accuse your enemy of what you yourself are doing. Very dumb people fall for it.

just remember, this are the people accusing others of being nazis

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News / Poland - Ukraine. Młodzież Wszechpolska against Ukrainians. [180]

Cuz only Ukraine and Croatia have/had enemies that make nazis look good in comparison ( Putin's Russia dn Milosevic's Serbia respectively).

Put that on your pagan svetovid altar and weep.