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Will EURO 2012 be a proud moment for Poland and its people or set back Poland 20 years? [86]
Football supporters on the whole wont travel outside of about 3km from the stadiums (a fact),
Is this a fact according to gdyniaguy or a fact attributed to a genuine study into the habits of football fans?
Football fans on a whole dont visit museums, nature reserves or go on day trips to historic castles whilst at a tournament.
Really? When I was in Germany and Austria that's exactly what I did as did a lot of my friends. I also met a lot of other football fans whilst doing this. Who wants to spend 3 days between games in a city centre sitting in a bar when there are plenty of other things to go and see that you might not get chance to see again. What you say might be true of English football fans though.
tickets are going on sale here for 15x face value!!
There's a difference between what people are asking and what they are selling for. There's a lot of repeat posters on the thread on this forum who have failed to sell their tickets at the ridiculous prices they've been asking. Furthermore anyone who pays 15x fave value for a ticket is an idiot IMO.
Poland isnt like Spain (re barcelona) the cities and coast don't compare from a tourist point of view (trust me ive travelled the whole of Poland and Spain)..
So have I and I've seen a hell of a lot of crap in Spain. Spain was a bit of a hole before it joined the EU back in the 80s and they've done pretty well out of the EU funds which have helped restore many of their crumbling cities, building new motorways, airports etc. Poland is still recovering from 45 years of a Russian puppet government (thanks to your government of the day) and has only been in the EU 8 years. Kraków, Wrocław and Gdansk have beautifully restored old towns so even if people don't venture outside those cities there's more for them to see and do than the likes of Newcastle, Sheffield, Manchester and Liverpool did back in 1996.
Sorry, you have that wrong. Polish hooligans will not attack random fans unlike English hooligans. Most of their fights are pre-arranged with other hooligan groups. They have their own honour system and will punish their own for bringing shame to their group if anyone attacks a random, non hooligan fan from another club or country. If there's any trouble it's likely to haver been pre-arranged or will be between hooligan groups and the ochrona/policja.
I know many ticketless fans who are going over and those who aren't going have been put off by the stupid price of accommodation not because they think there is a likelihood of trouble.