History / Do Poles really blame Britain for Poland becoming Communist after the war? [104]


Their greatest blame was deceiving Poland. France had no capacity to attack Germany and win, if they did they would had done it. Having low morale and plenty of ww1 kind of airplanes does no good vs morale boosted with a bit of experienced German troops...

History / Do Poles really blame Britain for Poland becoming Communist after the war? [104]


They actually did play it (later) and Stalin was "Oh? How nice :)" They got buffled since they didn't know Stalin was a great poker player and had/building his own bomb

They could have pushed the "Isn't a little weird you Soviets want the same/almost the same area Poland had before you took it in 1939? Punishing Poland for what? Fighting the Nazi's when you stabbed her?"

History / Do Poles really blame Britain for Poland becoming Communist after the war? [104]


Well
1. Great Britain bluffed using Poland yet Poland couldn't bluff and use Great Britain like they would have wanted to
2. Used Polish troops more proportionally then Poland used British troops (mathematics how cynical I know)
3. Having same/tiny more help from "enemies" then from Great Britain
4. No sense of gratitude towards Poland
5. Declaring war on Nazi Germany but, not on the Soviet Union (both attacked Poland)
6. Minimizing their war effort to naval/air warfare in Europe in the early stages
7. Finding out from the Soviets that their going to lose half their territory and gain new lands in eastern parts of Germany and not from Great Britain/U.S.A at the same time hearing they agreed to it, and then told not to speak about it to their own populace

8. Having Poland's leader assassinated (suspicions only so far)
9. Trying to expel Polish soldiers that served in the British armed forces after the war ended or get rid of them.
10. Commie propaganda painting UK very badly.

Do you want me to go on?
There are tons of reasons, more about feelings and how Great Britain behaved then what it actually helped with.

News / Poland Elections oct 2011/your feed back about RP Janusz Palikot? Poland is changing! [106]


It's the partitions-complex
Every alien is sure to lie about Poland because he/she has no gain from approving/complementing it
When a Pole criticize it, it's because they do it to inform other Poles of what kind of Poland their imagining.

It's a very natural reaction when you see it from an more objective point of view: He saw the Pole as talking about paintings, while see you as having an sword in your hand (not attacking fully with it yet) but still holding a sword and talking negative about somethign that has to do with Poland.

Word of advice either go the German way polonizing yourself or lower the sword/throw it away

News / The cross in Polish parliament - Does it bother you? [100]


an brilliant tribute to our heritage


fully agree


If one would know history it would been senseless NOT TO have their presence


apparently we were hunting witches an mass (the Saxon king influenced an witch hunting), murdering people of different sexual orientation (Hmm can't remember where I learned that... maybe... never?), killing Jews (jedwabne for instance there was a vote and majority of Poles came together and elected an government which had most important campaign: kill all Jews! Oh hang on... Sorry! Misinterpretation! It was some Polish villagers who had learned about a rumor that some Jews had killed a child... So sorry) , imprisoned ethnic minorities for just being that certain ethnic group (Poland made this little organization called: Tajna służba polityczno policyjna do spraw mniejszościowych! Oh wait.. wrong again so sorry :)), burning capitals (Poland is famous for burning down various towns and capitols killing off their entire population like the Romans did with Carthage! If I only came up with a name...)

You see pawian, one can't be unique, or different. Cause in medieval times all Europeans did crusades... had knights... had big castles... lords who were subjugating their subjects and etc.

News / Palikot or the Poles getting rid of the Polish society old Taboos in 2011? [30]


reading that statement is the same as if I saw: a tiger (Spain) and a wolf (UK) eating meat while the gorilla (Poland) eats fruits, then suddenly after having been eating meat all their life. Turn vegetarian and criticize everyone for eating meat, especially the gorilla that tries out a beef he just found.


That just made me laugh LOL


Why so selective? What about necrophiliacs? pedophiles? Or even zoophiles?

History / 1920 Battle of Warsaw - English trailer and film [55]

I am going to watch it anyway!
In one form or another!

History / 1920 Battle of Warsaw - English trailer and film [55]

*big smile*

History / 1920 Battle of Warsaw - English trailer and film [55]

Hmmm :/
(Then ill force my dad that lives in Poland to see it so that he can support the movie, he will buy 2 tickets!!)

Dzięki! :D

History / 1920 Battle of Warsaw - English trailer and film [55]


JUST read online?!
It would never be the same experience!

History / 1920 Battle of Warsaw - English trailer and film [55]


Can't wait either! I hope it comes out in Norway! If not... I AM BUYING A AIRPLANE TICKET!!!

News / What you think about parliament monarchy in Poland? Imperial Poland? [13]


Do you mean constitutional monarchy?
If so then I would think most Poles would say: no
(this is from a Norwegian-Polish royalist :))


Democracy is so ancient...


Even when there was monarchy in Poland the king acted more like an innefficiant president then a real king -.-
Monarchy in Poland is impossible, it just wouldn't be a monarchy even if the person called himself King.

History / What do Poles owe to Russians? [193]


You can put your pałac kultury in your arse!
Stalin gave the Polish commies the plans and then they had to make Poles build it. What a gift!
On the ruins of Warsaw he didn't want to save... Ironic?

I can have an conversation with an Russian no problemo, but if the Russian state would crumble I wouldn't shed a tear

History / 15.08.1920 - without Hungarians there would be no miracle at the Vistula - Poles remember [15]


Pretty easy "If we wouldn't do anythign then it could escelate into a Polish uprising aswell"
If they wouldn't help the Hungarians

News / Polish flag was changed by taking the coat of arms? [48]


bu** sh** it's too easy. if it had some more majestical colours like little stripes and an symbol then maaaaaybe. But of all scandinavian flags, Norwegian is the pretty one

UK, Ireland / Poles in the UK not a problem as far as i can tell [79]

You won't believe me but, I just made that up reading through this thread

UK, Ireland / Poles in the UK not a problem as far as i can tell [79]


Well as long as on the right fence that suits you, then no grass can ever be greener ;)

Life / Will Polish people be accepting that im only half polish? [63]

From my experience Poles tend to accept me more as a Pole then Norwegians accept me as an Norwegian. It's probably becaouse of the "exile culture"

History / Controversial Chapters: Polish-German history texbook [8]

atleast he talked about it...
and he went to Warsaw! :)

History / Why does the idea of a "Slavic Union" with Poland seem so popular on this site? [96]


Well it was too hot for all the Poles and they moved to Europe to kick some German butts for sport... is that sooooo cool? ;p

News / Lithuanian ambassador 'Poles not loyal citizens' [63]


since the mid-18th hundreds Lithuanians have been vastly influenced by Germans/Germany and abandoned the Polish cause. (the elite)

country doesn't mean nationstate Nathan. One can be ethnically something else and not even speak the language of the state to be pro- that state. Austria comes to mind.

Nathan are you advocating that for instance your kids if they moved to... Norway for instance, learned Norwegian and forgot about their Ukrainian roots? How would you feel about not being able to talk to them unless you know Norwegian or you both English? How do you think your family would think of it? In what language would they pray? What you want is nothing else then assimilation!

Your using the same tongue Polish landlords/politicians in the past or Prussians used! Shame on you! Nathan! shame on you...

News / Visegrad Battle Group under the command of Poland [261]


Let's not overheat here shall we?

I can hint that with Germany (perhaps) joining in, it would make Germany having a lot more influence then being in the EU sharing power with France, U.K. Having her "own" alliance led by Poland which she could back up. That would only provide benefits, IF Germany will act like that. It may even have a chance of redeeming herself while people whisper about the times they heard stories of how unpleasent or malace like it was in Western Europe.

The Russian federation would certainly back this (since it could break up NATO, or most of it) and having an helpfull Russian federation and an oportunistic Germany WILL lead to something positive. Another block in Europe, giving her a choice

The only ones who should moan about this and should try fighting against an creation of this is mainly Western Europe and U.S.A. If more and more countries from the former eastern block (maybe some former NATO countries aswell) join Visegrad then it shows how much faith they have in protection from western European allies or U.S.A. Certainly some american tax payers will wake up happy hearing about it. While American department of foreign affairs would locate their attention to either China or an other option. (If there are any).

News / Visegrad Battle Group under the command of Poland [261]

responsibility, costs, manpower. It's a reason why a country's PR get's higher when doing such stunts. Not everyone got what it takes.


amen

Frankly, Western-Europe/USA don't really care about Poland/central-eastern Europe. Only thing they want is a buffer zone for themselves, not the time has come to move in an more realistic path.

I can't wait for Crow's comment on this, would he suggest Serbia and other Slavic countries to join it or only co-operate or stand neutral towards it. (maybe hostile?)

History / Russians 'tortured to death' in Polish camps? [58]


I am an "pedant" :)


There were some professionals, or "Prussian" officers whom even disliked stories that came from the front. An good example is how Rommel behaved when he had quite a lot of freedom being far away from Germany helping Italians in Africa.

On the eastern front, the SS had the tightiest control on things. The movie Stalingrad depicted that quite good
Still, killings, and all the worst were still done :/

History / Russians 'tortured to death' in Polish camps? [58]


lol, you must mean Prussia and plenty of minor German states no? :)


yupp


There were different attitude from different Generals. For instance for the heroes of the defense of the coast. The extreme brutality started after meetings with the NKVD. Before that it was pretty much like a normal war-zone attitude.

History / Russians 'tortured to death' in Polish camps? [58]


Hahaha, don't make me laugh, you for sure ment decades!
English vs French that would been centuries...

News / Do Poles take Kaczynski seriously!? [199]


That's the reason why I am Pro-EU, we are paying anyway. why the F*** don't have a say in it? (Becaouse my countrymen are stupid and think we will lose our sovereignity... WAKE UP WE ARE ALLREADY!!!)


Oooo I wanna hear that! :D

Life / Why are cars so expensive in Poland ? [23]

yeah.. really cheap LOL

News / Do Poles take Kaczynski seriously!? [199]


yeah, everyone is a social-conservative, only different tongues :p

History / Why did Russia attack Poland in WW2? [178]


I would rather say reinforce, they aided Cuba becaouse they were commies, they aided Vietnam cause of commies, N.Korea cause of commies and so on. If anyone wanted to impose it was their "puppets". They had puppets to reinforce their defence not to spread communism like they wanted in 1917.


Yeah but not from point of world domination, but more of security. You can compare the goals of the soviet union from 1917 with after Stalins death in 1953. They didn't invade anyone anymore like they did with baltic states, Poland or Finland. They supported only places were there ere commies in trouble and were an good opportunity for a better defence.


That yes, still blood had to be spilled