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Poland Agent refuses to let me see their tenancy agreement unless I sign to pay their fee [13]
so they want you to sign a non disclosure agreement as theyre worried if you dont you'll go straight to the owner, thus losing them a deal/commission?
I've already told them I don't want any owner details - just a specimen contract (so I can see what sort of barrel they want me over) :o)
The Polish Gov need to bring in a law mandating the seller pays all fees,
They are working on doing that now in the UK - rental agents in the UK have been charging both sides, just as they do here.
instead of duping them by dealing directly with the lessor, thus completely excluding the agency from the process.
I've told them to remove any details of the landlord etc - I just want to see what their contract looks like. Most agencies in the UK have one standard contract, known as an Assured Shorthold Tenancy agreement which has to comply with a housing law. Clauses can be inserted but may not be valid (covered by the Unfair Contract Terms Act). I wanted to see what terms the agent wanted for that flat before I wasted my time or theirs and viewed it.
This was their further reply today, exactly copied from their email:
You do not pay before, but each agency has his tenancy agreement. I will not show you mine beor I will not have agency agreement. I know that bitish market is different.
this two agreements are different. now you are not my client becouse we do not have agency agremment, thats why I do not see reason to make you tenancy agreement.
I do tenancy agreement for each client: you see flat (no payment), you agree to rent it (no payment) but you want (for example) owner to take the furniture away - I fill it in the t. agreement. I prepare t. agreement for one customer each time, I do not have tamplate.
I do not give each one who ask me via mail for t. agreement.
you pay me when you sign (with owner) agreement. In Poland we do not one of the side of agreement (like in GB), we just help to go trought all operation of renting.
plan is:
1. agency agreement - that means you want to pay me if you rent a flat I will show/find for you
2. you choose one flat and want to rent it - I prepare t. agrement for you and owner (as both of you wish but at the same time correct in respect of law)
3. you and owner sign it - I make photos, check clocks (water, elect. etc.)
4. you have flat and pay me
that how it works in Poland.
I know that in UK agency is like an owner, but in Poland I'm not allowed to do this unless owner give me special document, but almost nobody want to do this.
Beyond bizarre. There can't be any good reason for them to want you to sign a contract you haven't seen. You should avoid them like the plague.
I can only very vaguely see the agency's point, and I mean very vaguely, so I am going to avoid them just as you suggest. (Because the agency must know the terms the landlord has in mind and the specifics, to say they don't know at this stage sounds like nonsense. It sounds far more likely that the reasons for their secrecy are to my disadvantage.)